Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:30 PM | 9 comments |
 
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Time for another question with our friend Bill Barnwell over at Football Outsiders.

Earlier, Barnwell talked about the Eagles' pass-run ratio.

And previously, he discussed the Birds' short-yardage woes.

Today, ironically, we ask Barnwell about the turnover on the offensive line. At this afternoon's practice, Shawn Andrews was nowhere to be found after his back tightened up during a morning run.

Jason Peters, meanwhile, joined a few other players who spent the practice stretching after a quad spasm.

So the retooled offensive line is going to have to wait to get to know each other just a little bit longer.

Here's the Q&A with Barnwell:

Q: One of the main reasons, at least it appeared to me, that you project the Eagles to have less than 10 wins is the turnover on the offensive line. An optimist would argue that they are more talented and more athletic on the line. What is your take on why it could take them some time to learn to play together?

A: There are other reasons -- namely, we expect the rest of the division to get better than our projections did a year ago, and the team had the second-healthiest defense in football in 2008 (after four consecutive years where they were middle of the pack, so it's a fluke), but offensive line continuity is definitely a factor we saw as a negative for the Eagles.

Absolutely, I agree 100 percent that the line will be way more athletic, and it'll certainly have more talent. I can't say enough positive things about the moves the team made this offseason for the long-term. That being said, we've found that teams tend to see a decrease in offensive performance when they bring in new linemen. Athleticism's great, but if you're not used to hearing the line calls and false start, all you're doing with that athleticism is walking backwards five yards and trying to stop defenders with their ears pinned back. If Donovan McNabb audibles at the line, it will be -- for better or worse -- the first time in a decade he won't be audibling to the same guys. It's easy to imagine that there'll be some snafus before everyone grows comfortable.

Honestly, I think that the offensive line continuity is less of an issue here because of the quality of player the Eagles brought in, relative to the level of play that Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan were providing by the end of the season. But it will still matter.

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So what do you think?

I'll be talking about the Eagles' offensive line turnover and all things Birds Friday morning on WIP's Morning Show at 7:30.

Posted by Sheil Kapadia @ 7:30 PM  Permalink | 9 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:27 PM, 07/30/2009
    he makes a good case when comparing the Eagles turnover of the OL to other teams…but at the same time, you have to take into account the actual players on the O-Line. where other teams might have brought in average or below average lineman, the Eagles have true talent across the board. plus the fact that the coaching staff, as proven by their record, seem to have a stronger emphasis & are more knowledgeable about the OL as compared to most other teams. their philosophy has always started up front, on both sides of the ball. so I’ll disagree on his assessment of the OL due to the fact he is making it in comparison to what other teams have done…as far as the rest of the division getting better, I don’t know about that one either. the Giants will no doubt be good. and it’s coin toss right now as to who will win this division, the Eagles or the Giants. the Skins, I don’t really see them that much better than last year. Haynesworth is a great pickup, but that may be the only upgrade that team has made…lastly, the Cowpolks. well, a fading Jerry Jones is their owner. ‘nuff said…
    Reality Speaks
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:07 AM, 07/31/2009
    "we expect the rest of the division to get better than our projections did a year ago" What does that mean? The division will be beter than the projectors? Seriously, FtbllOutsdrs R usually pretty insightful; they know how to get meaningful stats from the data. But, the rest of the East got better? I don't c it.
    Warhound
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:11 AM, 07/31/2009
    This line is much ballyhooed, but I think Reid and company have screwed up big time. You have a bunch of talented guys, true. But Peterson is a prima donna, or that's the read from his performance in Buffulo. The Andrews brothers may turn out to be the Andrews Sisters. There is no seasoning at tight end...again not enough experience, and Tony Gonzalez could have cured that except Banner and company were too cheap to go for him. The O-Line may even cut McNabb's career short...I need to be convinced this high priced bunch can get the job done...last year the composition was great...the wholesale change just doesn't make any sense to me. Runyon may need to be put back into service along with others that back up those traded away. Two steps forward three steps back...Lurie needs to examine his managers...Banner and Reid should have this season to prove they can win...if not get new management. He has spent a ton of money with too many almosts...how can you be the winningest team in the last 10 years and not have a Super Bowl ring? Lurie get your money's worth.
    drpfs
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:59 AM, 07/31/2009
    I think this new offensive line is more athletic and talented, probably one of the best in the league, but that is why I think the Eagles will win only 9 games. Understand?
    p-diddy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:25 AM, 07/31/2009
    The article makes a good point, it's all about timing for the OL. The Birds were decent last year wrt offensive penalties, expect a few more false start calls in the first half of the season. Hopefully the OL will have worked out most of the kinks before the NFC East grand tour starts in late October.
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:12 PM, 07/31/2009
    "mcsoftee and his diehards are playing the excuse card already......." I don't get your comment - McNabb is not even quoted in this article. No one is making excuses. I think everyone should just relax, enjoy the Phillies for another month, and wait to see what actually happens once the season starts. I read tons of speculation every year from fans and "experts" alike claiming that an off-season move or a training camp injury means something awesome or something terrible for the season. I'm guilty of it, too. Most of what is said is wrong. In a month, they'll be in Carolina to open the season and we'll know a lot more by the end of that game . . .
    TGRE


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