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Three Big Answers: Selling Hamels is the wrong move for Phillies

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Three Big Answers: Selling Hamels is the wrong move for Phillies

POSTED: Tuesday, June 26, 2012, 1:22 PM

Video: What move do the Sixers have to make? If the Phillies don't sell Hamels, who should they sell? The Daily News' Rich Hofmann gives his take and discusses the toughest moment to cover in Philadelphia sports history.


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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:09 PM, 06/26/2012
    There's no need to keep bringing up Domonic Brown, he continously hurts himself, runs routes like his legs are made of spaghetti and is just an overall disappointment. TRADE HIM!
    ehpvirgo
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:15 PM, 06/26/2012
    Hey walt1 - Platoon Pierre and Brown in left field? They're both left handed.
    Short Circuit 3
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:21 PM, 06/26/2012
    Hamels has seen the future and it's not with the Phils. The Dodgers are building a strong young team, have a new owner with money and love Hamels. They will offer him more money and years than anyone else and his family lives an hour away in N. San Diego county. Better rent him to another team and get something for him.
    farley
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:50 PM, 06/26/2012
    RAJ and company will continue to blow it
    attila
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:57 PM, 06/26/2012
    Regarding the Dodgers, Hamels has to know from experience now that nothing is a guarantee, and the Dodgers could be a couple injuries away from being a last place team too.
    Jeffy3
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:11 PM, 06/26/2012
    The baseball world believes that Hamels will re-sign with the Phis or sign with the Dodgers in the off-season. To everyone else he is a rental. If you don't have teams bidding up the price by the trade deadline, then you hold him and sign up or take picks.
    Claudio Vernight
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:39 PM, 06/26/2012
    first thing the Phils would have to do is get a g.m who could figure out what to do..right now their g.m. has proven over 3 1/2 years that other than sell the farm for whom he considers superstars he has no clue how to build a baseball team
    warbiscuit
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:40 PM, 06/26/2012
    Hamels isnt staying...Noone will give you anything for Lee or Rollins they are untradeable as is Utley. Why would an american league team trade for Utley who has lost his power..is injury ridden..and making super star money..Sorry we are stuck with all 3. Victorino may be tradeable but dont expect much in return. The only one who will bring us anything is Hamels and I would trade him in a minute since he will not sign here. Do what Mets did last year with Beltran when they got Wheeler....Beltran had no interest in resigning and Mets got a potential #1 starter....we should do better for Hamels
    flyers1000
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:04 PM, 06/26/2012
    What most of you don't realize is the comcast contract (BIG MONEY) starts next year. You think the upper mgt is going to let go of any of the big names that have been selling out the bank and helped get this contract? Its not about building for the future its about maintaining this level of profitability and keeping the brand strong. Get used to watching Howard K 200+ times a year, Rollins not running out groundballs and Utley watching from the bench. Lee and Halladay are here until their arms fall off, which means Hamels is good as gone and so is Victorino unless he continues to play himself into cheap enough to stay. Blanton would be traded if he could put more than 2 starts together before imploding and Brown may be trade bait if he could stay healthy. MontCo is going to ride this thing out until the wheels fall off. Unfortunetely the wheels are lose and may not stay on 3 more years as was planned.
    JuanSamuel4prez
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:05 PM, 06/26/2012
    1. Hamels + minor league guy for Quentin and Headley. That fixes LF and 3B. Hamels will be happy to be home and the Padres agree to pay him. 2. Trade Rollins and Lee to pay Hamels. Bring up minor league pitcher. Fontenot to SS until Galvis ready. Keep Victorino. Line up looks like : Victorino CF, Fontenot ss Utley 2b Howard 1B Quentin LF Pence RF Chooch C Headley 3b
    oldBird
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:56 PM, 06/26/2012
    Just to bring you back to earth a bit, because of the CBA, half year trades are basically worthless, unless you find a dumb GM to trade something of value.

    But there won't be an extra compensation pick for Hamels or Victorino.
    fmMD
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:18 PM, 06/26/2012
    here is my plan...with the assumption of trying to keep 2013 team salary same as 2012. 43 million comes off books with (blanton, contreras, hamels, polanco, thome, victorino). Let's say Hamels re-signs, taking 25 million a year. Add 12 million for arbitration and contract raises. That leaves us at 6 million to fill a 5th starter, 3b, bench and cf (since contrera's spot is already filled due to his injury). It is tight. How would I do it? Kendrick-already under contract becomes 5th starter (not ideal, but we are trying to fit under 6 million). Brown/Mayberry experiment in Cf (obviously not working now, but give it one year). minimum salary for bench player, and most of that 6 million toward a 3b (although Galvis made a seamless transition to 2b, could he do 3b?)

    I'm not pretending this is a perfect or ideal plan, just trying to fit those 4 spots with 6 million.

    so for 2013, you have ruiz, howard, utley, rollins, 3b fa, nix/pierre, mayberry/brown, pence. Doc, Lee, Hamels, WOrley, Kendrick,
    papelbon, bastardo, stutes and 4 other from our youngsters,
    plus back up catcher, galvis, fontenot

    after 2013, 16 million comes off books with utley, there is your salary relief.
    kgood
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:01 PM, 06/26/2012
    The Phillies have no intention to get rid of Hamels. This is nothing more than the local media trying to create a story where none exists. The Phils aren't going to let him get away.
    JimG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:38 AM, 06/27/2012
    1. Utley's loss of power has to do with the fact that he can't play the field with his knees and then try to hit. In the AL, he'd just be a DH. The Phils can't afford to play the waiting game on him next year.

    2. I doubt very much Lee would waive his clause. He and his wife absolutely love Philly and that was proven hen he snubbed New York.

    3. You have to think about trading Hamels at some point, because he's going to get you a bigger return if he doesn't re-sign with the team. I dont get the hue and cry of keeping Hamels--other than 2008, what has he really done? He was a complete waste in 2009; in '10 he was better, but not by much and last year he had his lowest career ERA at 3.06. I believe his career high for wins is 14.

    4. And for those dogging the Howrd contract, I think RAJ was smart to sign Howard when he did. Which would you rather have--just 5 years of a Ryan Howard, who could possily up his game in his early-to-mid 30s or sign a Pujols or Fielder to a 10 year deal, where the bulk of it in Pujols' case is going to be in his 40s and Fielder his late 30s? Howard's injury was unforseen and I think that's why everyone is complaining about the contract now.
    bobbyuk


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