Three lists to argue over while driving to Nebraska:
Premiere Magazine picks the 20 Most Over-rated films. How could have they have missed 2001? a Throwing Things reader asks.
Atlantic Magazine picks the 100 most influential Americans. Lots of people you find on bills and coins. But ... "Lists are for groceries," write David & Barbara on the Atlantic's Web site, wondering about the value of any list in which Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Martha Stewart, Chuck Berry and Hef got votes.
Time Magazine picks the 100 best albums. No "Blood on the Tracks." No "Dark Side of the Moon." And, notes a Suburban Guerrilla commenter, no entry from any band with the name Dave in the title. (But there are two essentials from a dude named David.)
Much to chew on.
Premiere doesn't shy from controversy, picking the "over-rated" Jules and Jim, The Wizard of Oz, Fantasia and American Beauty in addition to easy marks like Forrest Gump, which my mother walked out of for its depiction of Vietnam war protesters.
About Moonstruck, Premiere's executive editor Kathy Heintzelman wrote: The speed with which Nicolas Cage's Ronny (whom a character calls "the most tormented man," as if that were a good thing) proclaims his love for Cher's Loretta would startle even Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes.
Throwing Things credits the magazine for grilling a few sacred cows, and then adds its own offering of "Dances With Wolves," "The Aviator" and a "Fish Called Wanda."
Time's CD lists came out earlier in the month, and Suburban Guerrilla fussed at it for not including any Laura Nyro. No argument here.
Commenter davminnj found some essentials missing:
wheres john wesley harding?
face to face?
two steps from the blues?
tonights the night?
another green world?
the circle game?
i absolutely cherish otis blue-but how could they then have left off the immortal otis redding?
Suburban Guerrilla commenter Izquierdo piled on:
And the ignorance/arrogance of them to define
"music" in such a jaw-droppingly limited way
a grand total of two jazz albums, no classical,
no world music, nothing electronic, no musical
theater, no folk, no music of social protest,
no film music, nothing from the
first six decades
of recording history, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera, as the King of Siam liked to say.
and if they can pick london calling, then why not x- wild gift?
(Collage by Nick Rubin)
He'd asked earlier, Who cares what current Time staffers think? One of those picking, however, has some taste. Alan Light was editor of Tracks and Spin before that - and a Rolling Stone writer before that. I'm guessing the Eminem comes from Light.
Another unhappy listener, Kevin Hayden, laid waste to the list noting a few critical absense:
Consider whos been left off:
CSN or CSN&Y
Mamas & Papas
Eric Burdon & The Animals
Ike & Tina (or Tina)
Peter, Paul & Mary
The Righteous Brothers
the better albums of Stevie Wonder than the two weak ones they chose
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Jan & Dean
The Four Tops
Mothers of Invention
Men At Work
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Los Lonely Boys
Earth, Wind & Fire
Boyz in the Hood
Squirrel Nut Zippers
Oh, baby. Did he say Billy Joel?