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Saturday, May 3, 2008
Can The SIxers Win WIth Sam?

Samuel Dalembert is among the most interesting people we have met on the NBA beat. He is intelligent and has a great sense of humor.

Of course, he is also one of the most difficult players to evaluate. Few centers are more athletic. Dalembert is a great weakside defender, where he gets many of his blocked shots. He is a strong rebounder, but has yet to develop a go-to move in the low post.

While some may question his competitive desire, remember that Dalembert has played all 82 games each of the last two seasons. And that included this year after entering training camp with the stress fracture in his left foot.

From a consistency standpoint, this was his best year, 10.5 points, 10.4 rebounds and 2.34 blocked shots.

Dalembert had a lot to be proud of until the postseason, where he was soundly outplayed by Rasheed Wallace.

Again, that's no disgrace because Wallace is a four-time all-star and when he's motivated, can be a dominant factor on both sides of the ball.

On the surface, Dalembert's playoff numbers against Detroit, weren't that bad - 9.0 points, 9.5 rebounds and 1.7 blocked shots. Of course Wallace averaged 14.5 points, 6.5 rebounds and 3.3 blocks.

The major question as Dalembert turns 27 on May 10, is can the Sixers be a team that goes deep into the playoffs with him at center?

Most people focus on his salary, that has three years remaining and about $34 million left. We've been told that in today's NBA, that there are teams that wouldn't be turned off by that salary. However, if a team wanted to acquire him, they would have to ask the same questions the Sixers must be mulling - can he take a team to the next level?

While he has continued to improve, Dalembert still makes a lot of questionable basketball decisions on the court.

One would hate to give up on sombody if he begins hitting his prime and centers usually take longer to develop. Plus, Dalembert really didn't begin playing baskeball until he was a teenager, which might explain why his instincts are still lacking.

Either way it's a tough call for the Sixers. There are plenty of reasons to keep him and probably almost as many to think about exploring a trade.

So that brings a simple question. Should the Sixers keep him or explore a trade. (And they would have to get decent value back if they did trade him).

Ed Stefanski will look at any way to improve the team, which means there should be no untouchables (although Thaddeus Young might be the closest thing to that).

The question about Dalembert is among many that the Sixers face in this offseason. On this topic, there isn't an easy answer.

Posted by Marc Narducci @ 11:28 AM  Permalink | 41 comments
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Posted by seude 12:50 PM, 05/03/2008
Marc, his defense on Sheed was not my concern, Sheed is a tough cover. I think Sam made major strides in his on his man defense this year. Y.Ming, Garnett, C.Bosh just 3 good examples of guys he played well this year.But my 2 main concerns are ; 1] can he show the same improvements on the offensive end as far as positioning and a go to move, and 2] does he put enough effort into trying to improve. He reminds me of S.Bradley in that respect, like he doesn!t really care that much about basketball. His salary doesn!t bother me because most double double guys make big dollars but are we ever gonna see the best he has to give?, we may never know.
Posted by jjg 12:52 PM, 05/03/2008
Marc, Let Morley Safer do a "60 Minutes" expose on Dalembert's kaleidoscopic mind and charming personality, for what that's worth. As a professional basketball player, Sam is a charlatan who treads the water of potential. Moving him would underscore the organization's (assumed) seriousness and championship ambition to remainder of roster. He got "punk'd" (psychologically transformed to mush) by Rasheed Wallace (comparitive stats are meaningless: one center was a winning torchbearer; the other, a flagrant loser--except for gm 3). After his limp playoff performance - including haircut stunt at critical juncture - and 6 seasons of mixed results and generally disappointing play, his ticket should be stamped. Time's up. The clown should go. Not a prime time center.
Posted by seude 01:07 PM, 05/03/2008
Marc, trades I would do for Sam; 1] sign and trade [Josh Smith]; 2] sign and trade[ Okafor; 3] E.Curry, Balkman and swap #1 pick position; 4] Artest and Garcia; 5]Bargnani and Calderon ; 5]sign and trade [Biedrens]; 6]Harrington and Bellinini; 7]J.Green,Watson and Petro[ if Seattle drafts Beasley]; Just some examples.
Posted by Morty_ 01:12 PM, 05/03/2008
I agree with Marc that that, with the exception of Thad, there should not be a single "untouchable" player on this roster. Of course, that said, you can't give them away either. Even Green could contribute if used properly.
Posted by cosmic 01:23 PM, 05/03/2008
Sixers can win with Sam, they sure didn't lose because of him, that's for sure. We all now what the sixers need. Now who do they get? that is the question? were do the sixers do from here? Is the sixers rebuilding or are the player away?
Posted by Morty_ 01:26 PM, 05/03/2008
By the way, "eh" to Ben Gordon.
Posted by sixerzguy 01:30 PM, 05/03/2008
What happened to my comments? So annoying, I gotta type again, this format sucks... hugh, I just wanted to say I agree with how stupid it was to draft all these swingmen (Korver, Iggy, Carney, Thad).
Posted by jjg 01:36 PM, 05/03/2008
Morty, I see you, and raise you one. What makes Thad untouchable if big offer came along? He'll be good, no doubt, but, because he surprised this year from zero expectation, I think assessors may be going overboard. IMO, superstar projection is questionable, at least premature. He seems to have a good approach. But if I'm going for a ring, he's on the table too, just my last chip.
Posted by sixerzguy 01:45 PM, 05/03/2008
I'll tell you where Mo will be useful - trying to explain to Carney, after his development this season and his (relatively) great play in the playoffs, why Thad, who has (1) year of experience to his (2), gets the starting nod next year over him. Also, let's say we do get the SG that everyone says we need - what do we tell Carney after that? The same ol' "Carney, we need you to do the little things..." spiel he's been hearing the past two seasons? I don't think he'd go for that. I bashed Rodney harder than anyone on this board, but in the playoffs, and the latter half of the season, he really impressed with his clutchness, shooting, defense, and hustle, and I think he's turned the corner and could really contribute if given the chance.
Posted by sixerzguy 02:02 PM, 05/03/2008
jjg, glad you brought up Thad - was he not part of the starting five that couldn't do squat against the Pistons in games 4,5 and 6? draftexpress made some comments about Thad that proved to be fortuitous: "...where Young’s Georgia Tech team was knocked off behind a poor game by their small forward...finally decided to take them [other team's smaller forwards, 3-4 inches shorter] into the post and utilize his size and athleticism to do more than just toss up outside shots...he immediately faded back onto the perimeter and did a whole lot of nothing for the rest of the game...Defensively, Young looked clueless in Georgia Tech’s zone...He did a particularly poor job helping out on the glass against a team that Tech clearly should have dominated in the rebounding department, finishing with only 4 easy rebounds and not doing a good job at all of keeping UNLV off the offensive glass, particularly down the stretch where they essentially lost the game."
Posted by sixerzguy 02:08 PM, 05/03/2008
Before anyone gives me a vocab lesson, I just realized that was the wrong usage of "fortuitous", it's this other word I can't think of right now, it's times like these I wish I could write like jjg...
Posted by rayzoe 02:19 PM, 05/03/2008
Ray here I first want to say I missed this one it appeared for a breif moment that this team could take this club (the Pistons) but I was wrong. Sammy has never played along side a legitamate power forward, So we don't know what Sammy really looks like. KG made the Boston Celtics unknown center look like an alstar but to this day I still don't know who he is. Sammy has played along side a undersized powerforward in Evans and a with a rookie in Thadeous Young. Both players are good players but not legitimate PF's never the less Sammy had a great year.
Posted by Dean1 02:33 PM, 05/03/2008
As I said on the previous blog, I don't even think Thad should be starting IF we can get a Mike Miller-type (over 50% shooter from the field and 43.5% from 3) in here as an outside assasin. Will Thad Young be a good NBA player? Absolutely. Will he be great? Maybe...only time will tell. However, is he presently 19 yrs old and at times looks like a deer in headlights, especially when on the court too long? Yes. Thad can still get his 30 mpg coming off the bench at the 2, 3, and 4 spots on the floor; it's a perfect solution for a talented young player still finding his way. To answer Marc's article above, I think we keep Sam ONLY if we get a offensive low-post presence (ELTON BRAND). Would you offer a package of Lou Williams (re-signed at $5M per), Jason Smith, and a 2009 #1 in a sign and trade for Brand (assuming he's signed to a new 5 year deal)? I would in a hearbeat. And, most importantly, the Clippers would do that deal also. Then, Sam becomes extremely important to this team as primarily (1) a shotblocker and rebounder, (2) someone who could set picks and knock down an open jumper occasionally, and (3) a big man that can get out on the fast break for his "oop" finishes. It takes the pressure off of him to score offensively, so that he can focus on his main strengths. To get Mike Miller and Kyle Lowry in here, you can offer Memphis Rodney Carney and an expiring Andre Miller's contract. We had a nice run this season, but it's clear that we are at least 3 main pieces away from this team being a legitimate contender consistently. They are (1) a legitimate post presence, (2) a lethal outside shooter, and (3) a PG of the future. Oh, and for all of you knuckleheads that don't want to re-sign Andre Iguodala? Guess again. He's improved every year by leaps and bounds, avg'd 20 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 4.8 apg, and 2.1 steals, and is only 24 years old. Get a clue - sign Iggy to the 5-year deal and make him one of the cornerstones of this team for years to come.
Posted by jjg 02:52 PM, 05/03/2008
sixerzguy, Interesting draftexpress notes on one of Thad's games at Tech. He's not the total package in my mind, but pretty good for a 19 yr. old. And has a good basketball frame. I agree with you that Carney came on, showed something; think he can be helpful down the road. Has to learn to quit the impatient foot shuffle at start of drive. Can play D when he wants to. Sixers have to do something about glut of athletic tweeners. Game is won on ball control - handling & distribution, shooting, rebounding - and not on 94' track times.
Posted by Morty_ 03:19 PM, 05/03/2008
jjg: OK, I'll remove my "utouchable" tag from Thad, but you'll really have to bowel me over. I'm not sure how relevant notes from his college games are when compared to what we've seen ourselves. Like the rest of teh team, he was out of sync the last 2 games. I won't knock the 2nd youngest player in the league for that. I do agree that Carney can be a valuable bench player on this team for years to come.
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