Whitewash in South Philly
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Whitewash in South Philly
You'll be shocked, shocked to learn that the school's district's long-awaited report on racial violence against Asian students in South Philly High is a complete joke:
Giles' report did not assign blame to school officials, but it did make recommendations for change, including banning hoodies at school, providing students with an anonymous tipline to report violence, and placing sufficient cameras at South Philadelphia High School. Some of the suggested changes, such as putting more cameras in place, have already been made.
Although students and community members say there has long been violence against immigrant students, Giles was directed to only investigate the incidents of Dec. 2 and 3, he said. He termed his work "a general overview and not a specific fact-finding undertaking as to individual student culpability."
And the punchline is still Arlene Ackerman:
Both Giles and Superintendent Arlene Ackerman said that it was important to focus on the future, not the past.
"It would take us another 10 years to find out all the intricacies of what happened," Ackerman said at a news conference. "Let's move forward."
There's your mantra for the 2010s, people: "Let's move forward." The CEOs who gambled and lost billions of dollars of our money on 4 a.m. casino bets are still employed and getting huge bonuses because, well, um, "Let's move forward!" Our highest officials can flagrantly disregard established laws and order waterboarding and other forms of torture, dragging America's good name through the muck, but seriously, nothing to see here, folks..."Let's move forward!" A racially motivated mob can rampage through a high school in Philadelphia for two days, amid a much longer climate of violence and harassment, even from adult staffers, and not only is no one from the school district accountable but none of the perps is even arrested.
Let's move forward!
No one could get away with this in his or her own life: Could you imagine having an affair or losing your kid in the mall for a couple of hours and telling your spouse nothing beyond "let's move forward!"? Good luck with that. But in our public life, no accountability is demanded of anyone. And people wonder why our public life keeps getting progresively more appalling.
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anyone who was expecting a honest study and a clear and objective report is living in wonderland. i can't believe we wasted serious taxpayer $$ ($250K?!!!) on this. as a tax payer,i demand the release and an audit of all the expenses incurred.— Pacoatl
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- There have been accusations that a black handicapped boy was beaten by Asians which was one of the reasons the violence erupted, to this day I have not seen any proof that this happened and possibly this was just a rumor that was spread. Would someone please confirm if this actually took place or was this used as some sort of justification for the beatings put on the Asian students.— Teddyballgame
- The Brothers and Sistas still running the city. Soon enough the white folks will catch on... While we are in charge still why can't we just some things fixed? As a brother I xould not wait till we got in charge. Now I wish that day never came.— StraightottaPhilly
- OMG, i agree with Bunch concerning the school district. It is going to snow tomorrow so Hell froze over! BTW Bunch, America's good name didn't matter to our enemies hence the 9/11 terror attacks. But I guess this is the first time in your adult life you are proud of our country.— palmyra21
The beatings were racially motivated. But that doesnt make it racist. And the redistricting in Lower Marian IS racist because two people on the phone discussed the bussing laws as they pertain to race. Here is the way to understand this, if it involves blacks as victims, it is racism, if blacks are perpetrators, not racism.- Comment removed.
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necks— dmac6419- "And please, STAY ON TOPIC." Where those movie quotes always on topic?— RG
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Philly.com comments are intended to be civil, friendly conversations. Please treat other participants with respect and in a way that you would want to be treated. You are responsible for what you say. And please, STAY ON TOPIC.— bird11- What's left to say: 2 words-"Whitewash & Shame !" Asian Americans United should vigorously pursue their case at the Federal level. This entire affair clearly demonstrates the institutional racism that now exudes from the top level of the School District of Philadelphia. The oppressed HAVE become the oppressors !— cgraham
- Some words of Lew Rockwell, the libertarian loon, affiliated with Ron Paul and his merry band of libertarian loons, and another proponent of the idea that the Civil War was a "War to prevent Southern Independence" - waged by that "dictator," Abe Lincoln. LOL! --snip-- In an interview on February 1999, Rockwell explained, "The civil-rights movement of the 1960s complicates the picture. My ideological sympathies were and are with those who resisted the federal government's attacks on the freedom of association (not to mention the federalist structure of the Constitution) in the name of racial integration." He later states, "I never liked Martin Luther King, Jr. I thought he was a fraud and a tool. But when he turned his attention to the evils of the U.S. war on Vietnam, I began to like him. That's also when the establishment turned against him, and soon he was murdered. --snip-- Yeah, I can see why RG is so worried about repudiating the ideas of these total nutbars.— Talking point sleuth
- ---}}} Good point Talking Point Sleuth, because tort is civil law, and the Obama Administration looked into criminal law violations, {{{--- Sorry, Buck, I gave you too much credit. Here, I'll remove the ellipses - so that it's simpler to understand. --- That's why Obama is expending so many resources to prosecute members of the past administration for torture. What? Oh. Sorry. Nevermind. ---— Talking point sleuth
- Any time you want to pipe up and state whether you agree that Lincoln was a dictator, RG, feel free to do so. Or, you can continue to pretend as if those lunatic don't libertarians exist. Or, you can laughably continue to claim that it is insignificant that such a group of loons was highly visible at a convention that hosted speakers who are major players in the Republican Party.— Talking point sleuth
- I like that. I like that "let's move forward" line. McGuire made it popular but not widely accecpted. Since Ackerman represents the Black community and the city of Philadelphia I am certain that her use of LMF will be accecpted. She is a liberal and liberals always do the right thing so we should accecpt her logic. Just think how employing LMF in other areas will help our country. We can withdraw from I & A immediately; forget about UBL; and empty our jail cells. Thank god we have someone like Hackerman here to lead us.— abnrgr
- "RG we implore you- please do not answer TPS" consider it done. I've exposed him for the fraud that he is, incapable of mature debate.— RG
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- RG we implore you- please do not answer TPS- his neigbors are complaining constantly of LOL coming from his house......aslo a local dog got--snipped--.— Manny Trillo
- Where is the MSM on this situation? Sharpton? Jesse? if the races were reversed- oh boy!!! this coverage would last longer than the Swim Club Philly.com frenzy- must have been 20 days 100 columns on the Swim Club incedent.— Manny Trillo
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- well since you folks don't want to move on and forget the past how about paying blacks reparations for 400 yrs of enslavement. oh never mind lets move on.;— phillyfansrdumb
- Taking the word of the people I know who teach in Philly public schools, SPH is an average school in terms of violence. This isn't just a SPH problem the better part of the Philly public school system is the problem and it is not just the high schools, some of the grade schools are war zones too.— bird11
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- Compare this to what happened to that Huntingdon Valley swim club. They were destroyed for an incident that was completely non-violent but admittedly stupid. The SPH incident was very violent and the district's response more than just stupid.— pj katauskas
- Thank you, General!!— pj katauskas
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- Wow, it only took 8 posts for TPS to get off message today.— pj katauskas
- Good one today, Will!!!— pj katauskas
- If I hung a noose from a tree, I would be suspended. But if I beat up asians of whites, nothing happens.
- ////Good point, Buck. That's why Obama is expending so many resources to prosecute members of the past administration for tort... What? Oh. Sorry. Nevermind.///// Good point Talking Point Sleuth, because tort is civil law, and the Obama Administration looked into criminal law violations, not civil/tort. So your point is that you do not know what your're talking about. What? Oh, sorry. Nevermind.— General_Turgidson
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- that is just awful. ackerman is poison in this district.— brendancalling
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- Ban hoodies? How about banning the thugs.— Mark Glaeser
Bygones.— potus
The racial attacks in Philly were a symptom of a cultural disease. The disease is self healing. The Philadelphia Asian community will be fine. Immigrant Asian families will partake in the American dream within one generation because they care about their children and sacrifice their own personal pleasure so that their children can lead a better life. The AA community in Philly is stagnant, depraved, and doomed to suffer for generations because their predominant culture lacks the ability to act now for benefit in the future. That's not to say that all AAs suffer this depravity. There are fantastic parents that work hard and sacrifice for their children. But they are truly "a minority". Could it be time to reintroduce the social phenomenon of shame? It seems to be lost.— Mr. Smith- Slavery? Let's move forward. Civil Rights? Let's move forward. Hate crimes? Let's move forward.— legend1
- accountability? from baby boomers? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA they let nixon get away with watergate... reagan get away with iran contra (selling weapons to iran that were used to murder 268 marines in beirut. semper fie ollie north...who speaking of which was a convicted felon and drug dealer who ALSO got off, as did all the iran contra traitors... george hw bush - iraq gate, s and l scandal, iran contra, too many to list clinton - put more americans in prison than any president before him, consolidated the media into one final oligarchy, and he got away with everything EXCEPT oral sex cheney got away with everything...in baby boomer america you can get away with murder and war crimes...just don;t have sex for god's sake or you WILL be held accountable!!!— pyg
- Agreed. This is an effort by gutless Philadelphia Authorities to address the problem, and to sweep it under the rug. You have to wonder about the racial overtones, and looks closely at the "commission" that investigated. Let's move forward? Let's start by FIRING every public official involved or linked to the incident -- Comissioners, teachers, cops, community activists. When we show we are SERIOUS about responsibility, then we'll get it.— ChrisWZD
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- If I were in the asian community, I would hire someone who is loud and talks a whole bunch of nothing, call him a reverend so he gets significant tax breaks, then threaten the school with racial lawsuits, then threaten the school districts sources of income with racial lawsuits, then demand the firing of Ackerman and that the kids are expelled!!! Thats progress— jj12
In the city of America's history, of every conceivable museum, institute, gallery, memorial, statuary, mural and artistic installation, let's move forward, let bygones be bygones? Is Black History month here because there was institutionalized amnesia? How about African American Future month? And now, you want to export your do nothing, the police are the institutional racist club of Black political subjugation. It won't play. IT WAS A RACE RIOT. You know, the kind of thing you don't want to happen to your ethnic group anymore. Well, no one else wants it to happen again, in this city, anymore, to anyone. That means, not only in the future, will you make a strong stand against it and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law the violators, no matter who they are. And in the future, we will not hear about a historical monograph when what we want is a criminal investigation, maybe by a grand jury, resulting in prosecutions and convictions. Crime must be punished and that means that yes, you have to review the facts, of past, but not ancient, behavior. What kind of pseudo intellectual misdirection do you think you can arrange to draw attention away from having these events investigated. Because they are in the past. You must think this city is as stupid as the people who see snow in the middle of winter and claim there can not be global warming in one region of the globe that actually has four seasons, one of them with cold and ice and snow. All prosecutions and investigations are of past events, Ms Ackerman, they are not live reality Mtv shows.- You people are morons - black kids jumped asian kids because they were asian and the black Ackerman and the black retired judge are trying to make it go away - you can deflect about the cops, corporate execs, lincoln, bush, obama, nobama, rebama, momama, it doesnt matter the truth is that this is exactly the same - if you are ok with it then shut the hell up and dont throw stones when its done against you!!! Its that simple— jj12
- Any one have popcorn to eat while RG and TPS go at each other?— Timmy
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- "You responded TO THAT POST, by commenting, completely devoid of any context, say, related to civil war or slavery" Yes, my points about the draft, Sumtners assaults on civilian targets, and the suspending of habeus corpus had nothing to do with the civil war.— RG
- ---}}} Can you even explain what that would accomplish? {{{--- It would accomplish a very simple task, RG: explicating whether or not you think that the opinion that Lincoln was a dictator is a lunatic opinion. Here, I'll recap once again, and then I'm out. I posted a clip of lunatics expressing a lunatic viewpoint. You responded TO THAT POST, by commenting, completely devoid of any context, say, related to civil war or slavery, about Lincoln restricting rights. My post was about the lunatics. Feel free to repudiate those lunatics at any time.— Talking point sleuth
- "It's funny, RG, for someone who lives in such a binary world " Your comprehension of this idea is so infantile, its embarrassing. In your world, Lincoln freed the slaves. The means he used are inconsequential, they are ultimately justified by the end. This completely ignores how slavery was abolished in other parts of the world w/o massive bloodshed.— RG
- "In response, you comment, completely devoid of ANY context, (context like say, related to a civil war, or the legality of slavery, perhaps), that Lincoln restricted civil rights. " Good grief. Restricting rights is an action often associated with dictatorship. My comment was n perfect context, but once again, you can do nothing but insist that I repudiate others viewpoints. Can you even explain what that would accomplish? People are free to their opinions, I'm not going to condemn them, especially when they are harmless.— RG
- It's funny, RG, for someone who lives in such a binary world you have trouble with some very binary concepts. Either these people are lunatics, or they aren't. Which is it, RG?— Talking point sleuth
- ---]}} Instead you tilt at windmills and demand that I repudiate a video clip i've never watched. {{{--- LOL! So, I post a video of lunatics calling Lincoln a dictator. In response, you comment, completely devoid of ANY context, (context like say, related to a civil war, or the legality of slavery, perhaps), that Lincoln restricted civil rights. Without even watching the video tape! And then you, laughably, demand that I respond to your childish decontextualized comment about Lincoln. In response to my post about the lunatics calling Lincoln a dictator. Hilarious. Go ahead, RG. Repudiate these lunatics. That's all you had to do at 10:08. You know, something like: "Well, Lincoln took some extreme measures in response to an extreme situation, but calling him a dictator is a lunatic statement." That's all it would have taken, RG. And once again, you are free to repudiate these lunatics at any time.— Talking point sleuth
- "Feel free to repudiate these lunatics anytime you're ready, RG." Feel free to counter my points about habeus corpus, the draft, civilian targeting, etc. I'm asking for debate, you are behaving like a dimwitted child.— RG
- " Oh, I'm sorry, RG. I guess I missed the post where you agreed that these folks are lunatics." You accused me of defending four specific points, see your 11:10 post. glad to see when called on it, you can't even back up that assertion. And glad to see you cannot even begin to comment on any of my actual points regarding Lincoln. I've called you out on this numerous times, and you have nothing to offer. Instead you tilt at windmills and demand that I repudiate a video clip i've never watched. You are intellectually bankrupt and incapable of adult debate.— RG
- ---}}} I simply pointed out that Lincoln infringed on civil liberties,{{{--- LOL! In response to me posting about the lunatics calling Lincoln a dictator. Feel free to repudiate these lunatics anytime you're ready, RG.— Talking point sleuth
- "Yes America was far etter of prior to the civil war. Heck the world was better off." Gee, look up the definition of strawman. I simply pointed out that Lincoln infringed on civil liberties, if you are lacking the intellectual capacity to understand that, then maybe you shouldn't post. "when America did actually speak in 2008 by giving the Dems the WH, and majorities in Congress, blocked nearly every piece of legislature that was writen, by the party that America did elect" This exposes your idiocy even further, the dems had a supermajority and still couldn't pass health care reform.— RG
- ---}}} Can you please cut and paste them for me? I can't find them anywhere. {{{--- Oh, I'm sorry, RG. I guess I missed the post where you agreed that these folks are lunatics. My bad. I apologize.— Talking point sleuth
- "You, meanwhile, have been on this thread defending the lunatic viewpoint that (1) Lincoln was a dictator, (2) FDR was responsible for Pearl Harbor, (3) real patriots understand that secession is patriotic, (4) Lincoln's war against the Southern states was treasonous..." Where are my comments about FDR being responsible for Pearl Harbor, that secession is patriotic, or that Lincoln was treasonous? Can you please cut and paste them for me? I can't find them anywhere. Cause they don't exist. You lie. Again.— RG
- ---}}} I'd say this is most definitely a strawman position, since I never claimed Lincoln to be a dictator. {{{--- That's great, RG. I'm glad to know that you and I are in agreement. The people depicted in the clip are lunatics. Now if you had just said that agreed with that back in your 10:08 clip, we could have avoided all that nastiness. But seriously, I really am glad to know that you agree that those libertarians are complete fruitcakes.— Talking point sleuth
- Frankly I cant believe there is someone killing Abe Lincoln on here. Yes America was far etter of prior to the civil war. Heck the world was better off....And just think how well our economy would be doing now with all that free labor..... Abe only jeopordized the very nation that he loved in order to do the right thing. He is one of the greatest leaders to ever walk to planet. And he gets bashed by the moron. It's this slanted view of reality that I love do much about the right. Every Republican and their mother is on eveyr media outlet aghast that the Dems would try and push an agenda through based on the theory that "America has spoken". despite the fact that in actuality, America did not speak in the elction of Scott Brown....Massachusetts did.....a state that has already passed health reform...... But this is comign from the party, who, when America did actually speak in 2008 by giving the Dems the WH, and majorities in Congress, blocked nearly every piece of legislature that was writen, by the party that America did elect. Its is so mind numbingly ridiculous that I can't believe they have the absolute lack of integrity to make such statements with a straight face.— gee1971
- Ok, let me make sure I understand, RG. I post a clip of lunatics calling Lincoln a "dictator," and you respond by defending their position. Then you just happen to mention, I guess by accident, that there are OTHER people out there in the world who equated Bush to Hitler. Not something I EVER said, or anything that anyone else said that I EVER defended. And I'm moving the goalposts. LOL! As I said, RG, if you want to defend these lunatics, have at it. That's your right. You also have every opportunity in the world to repudiate these lunatics.— Talking point sleuth
- "Cause, you know, another "dictator" just like Lincoln is just around the corner, and we need level-headed folks like you to keep us informed." I'd say this is most definitely a strawman position, since I never claimed Lincoln to be a dictator. And you'll continue to avoid to questions I brought up about his tactics, because you lack the intellectual honesty and capacity to do so. You can only spout rhetoric about tea partiers, loons, Glenn Beck, etc. Thats. All. You. Have.— RG
- "Not try again, to find one example where I EVER said anything about Bush Hitler, or EVER defended anyone who did" Moving them goalposts again? Or is this another outstanding example of your reading comprehension, no doubt part of your public education? Did I ever say you compared Bush to Hitler? Read my 10:58 post and get back to me. no doubt, you'll spin instead of admitting the mistake, because you are of low morals and lack personal accountability.— RG
- ---}}} Or you'd realize this is a strawman position. {{{--- Strawman position? LOL! Watch the clip, RG. If you want to repudiate these lunatics, have at it. Be my guest. Or, if you want to defend these lunatics, have at that too - but it isn't a strawman position, RG.— Talking point sleuth
- LOL! Nice, RG - you proved that you are very good at using Google. Not try again, to find one example where I EVER said anything about Bush Hitler, or EVER defended anyone who did. You, meanwhile, have been on this thread defending the lunatic viewpoint that (1) Lincoln was a dictator, (2) FDR was responsible for Pearl Harbor, (3) real patriots understand that secession is patriotic, (4) Lincoln's war against the Southern states was treasonous.... Shall I go on, RG? Look, if you want to defend lunatics, have at it. It is very amusing.— Talking point sleuth
- " If I were more sophisticated in my knowledge, I'd realize that these libertarians aren't really lunatics afterall, and indeed, realize that Lincoln was a dictator. " Or you'd realize this is a strawman position. Slavery was abolished across the globe, w/o civil wars and massive casualties. Not to mention the suspension of civil liberties such as habeus corpus or the institution of the draft. But your childish, ignorant mind isn't capable of nuanced thinking.— RG
- "Find one example, RG. Go ahead. Google is your friend." http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=3524— RG
- 8 years of screaming "Bush Hitler," RG? It shouldn't be hard to find one example, let along hundreds. Anyone with such a firm grasp of history as you (as proven by your withering argument in support for the assertion Lincoln was a "dictator") should have no problem using Google to find many examples. Go for it.— Talking point sleuth
- ---}}} This after 8 years of the left screaming hysterically about Bush Hitler. {{{--- ---}}} Really? Screaming about Bush Hitler? Find one example, RG. Go ahead. Google is your friend.— Talking point sleuth
- ---}} instead of regurgitation of your 7th grade history books. {{{--- Yeah, good point, RG. The only thing that keeps me from seeing the truth about Lincoln being a "dictator" is my mindless regurgitation of 7th grade history books. If I were more sophisticated in my knowledge, I'd realize that these libertarians aren't really lunatics afterall, and indeed, realize that Lincoln was a dictator. Why I'm sure if you asked any freed slave after the civil war, they'd have been in complete agreement about Lincoln's "mistakes." LOL!— Talking point sleuth
- "Cause, you know, another "dictator" just like Lincoln is just around the corner, and we need level-headed folks like you to keep us informed." This after 8 years of the left screaming hysterically about Bush Hitler.— RG
- --snip-- Speakers have included Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Pat Buchanan, Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, and Mitt Romney. Before, during, and after his presidency, Reagan spoke at CPAC a total of 12 times. --snip-- But you know, no one important ever speaks at CPAC, so why should Beck being the keynote speaker indicate anything of importance. LOL!— Talking point sleuth
- CPAC speakers and blog posters, TPS has his fingers on the pulse of some real movers and shakers. I'll also note how you are too childish and simple minded to consider that some of Lincoln's actions, such as suspending habeus corpus, the draft, and allowing civilian infrastructure to be targeted, could have been wrong. That would require free thought, instead of regurgitation of your 7th grade history books.— RG
- CPAC speakers and blog posters, TPS has his fingers on the pulse of some real movers and shakers. I'll also note how you are too childish and simple minded to consider that some of Lincoln's actions, such as suspending habeus corpus, the draft, and allowing civilian infrastructure to be targeted, could have been wrong. That would require free thought, instead of regurgitation of your 7th grade history books.— RG
- LOL! How about this quote, RG?: --snip-- "Lincoln's war against the southern states was treasonous." --snip-- I also like the part where they blame Pearl Harbor on FDR. I'm sure glad that you're on these threads to defend these libertarian fruitcakes, RG 'Cause, you know, another "dictator" just like Lincoln is just around the corner, and we need level-headed folks like you to keep us informed. Yeah - and good point about how unimportant Beck is - after he was the keynote speaker at CPAC.— Talking point sleuth
- Lincoln also ok'd the targeting of civilian infrastructure. Apparently, you are ok with all of these tactics. Or you're just blowing hot air again, complaining about critics of a long dead president. On a post that underlines a massive failure of the public school system. You always focus on the important stuff, Glenn Beck, the Tea Partiers, critics of Lincoln. One would think you'd be touting all those wonderous achievements of the guy actually in office.— RG
"Both Giles and Superintendent Arlene Ackerman [and President Obama] said that it was important to focus on the future, not the past. "It would take us another 10 years to find out all the intricacies of what happened," Ackerman said at a news conference. "Let's move forward." But in the case of what really was the reason for the Iraq war, how we came to use torture, and why it was proper to bypass the law on electronic eavesdropping, we might get the results in 10 months instead of 10 years--provided someone with power to punish the malefactors actually did the investigation and followed through.- Good post Will...If you give me half and half politically, you can count on me to be a daily reader...And if you do it for an extended period of time, I might even order the paper version... :)— will_wonders_never_cease
- Yeah, and that whole emancipation proclamation was a real overstep of presidential powers too, huh RG? Imagine that, the hubris of abolishing slavery. And how about that part of the clip where they talk about how secessionists are portrayed so unfairly, RG? I never realized how folks who really understand the Constitution realize that the only patriotic thing for Texas to do is to secede. LOL!— Talking point sleuth
- Oh, he also suspended habeus corpus.— RG
- "My favorite part is when they shout about Lincoln being a dictator and everyone cheers wildly" Lincoln instituted the draft, and sent thousands to their death. Forced conscription. Think about that. Some people aren't thrilled with that idea.— RG
- ---}}} Except for our president. He likes to make sure we never forget about the past... administration. {{{--- ---}}} Good point, Buck. That's why Obama is expending so many resources to prosecute members of the past administration for tort... What? Oh. Sorry. Nevermind.— Talking point sleuth
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- ///Let's move forward!/// Except for our president. He likes to make sure we never forget about the past... administration.— General_Turgidson
- Sounds like the National Motto "Ignore and forget the past" No torture, no war crimes, no rendition, no evesdropping, no legal rights. Thank you Caesar Bush and Emperor Obama— jtw
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- will, when did you suddenly decide that people should be accountable for your actions?! they'll take your liberal decoder ring away from you...
- Wow! An article written by WIll Bunch I actually liked!— Landfill
- The flash mob at Macy's? Let's move forward.— doublestandard
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