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Evan Turner, no longer a rookie

POSTED: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 2:52 PM
Sixers guard Evan Turner has a lot of work to do this off-season. (Matt Slocum/AP file photo)

We're getting closer to more specific talk about the NBA Draft. The combine in Chicago is May 18-22 and then the 76ers will start bringing in players to PCOM for workouts. Today, we'll just continue with our coverage of some of the smaller questions surrounding the Sixers. On Monday, we discussed the future possibilities with young big man Craig Brackins. If you missed that post, you can find it here: Brackins. On Tuesday, we talked about the future of center Spencer Hawes and whether or not the Sixers would want to re-sign the 23-year-old starting center. If you missed that post, you can find it here: Hawes.

Today, per the e-mails I've received, people seem to be interested in Evan Turner, the No. 2 pick in the 2010 NBA Draft. The question I've received more than any other? If the Sixers could make that selection again, would they still draft Turner? The question I've received the second-most amount of times? Where do the Sixers see Turner playing? At point guard, at starting shooting guard, at small forward?

The point of today's post is to paint a picture of how the franchise views Turner, at this exact moment in time. We all have opinions about how Turner's rookie year went, and nobody believes it was earth-shattering, but I'd like to toss one idea out there that we haven't fully discussed previously. Turner went through the fire. Sixers coach Doug Collins didn't hand him anything. He had a handful of games where he didn't play, per coach's decision, and we'd be naive to think those moments didn't knock the wind out of Turner. But also, in an old-fashioned way, it was probably the best thing that could have happened to him. Because he impressed people with the way he handled himself last season. Nothing was given to him and in the long run there's belief within the organization that this will make him a stronger, more dedicated, more mentally tough player than some rookies who received 35 minutes a game, a starting role, and a prime-time spot on a 20-win team.

So in answer to the most asked question: who would the Sixers draft if they could do it all again? I still think they draft Turner; I think people within the organization -- and I know I agree with this -- still believe he will raise to the level of a No. 2 pick, even if his rookie year numbers don't reflect that status immediately. 

By all accounts, at Turner's exit interview the day after the loss to the Miami Heat, he made it clear he understands what he has to do this summer. And he's excited to do it. He is keeping in good contact with everyone and preparing himself for a breakout sophomore season. In addition to improving that mid-range jumper, Turner understands that he must be in absolutely ideal physical condition when he enters camp next September. Toward the end of last season, because his minutes were often sporadic and traveling isn't the healthiest style of living, Turner probably wasn't in tip-top, prime-time shape. But he will be next season. And that will go a long way toward allowing him to defend on the low block, improve his first step, and be more explosive on the floor.

He's excited for what he can do next season, and so is the franchise.

So in answer to the second most asked question: what position is Turner? I'm going to give all Sixers' fans something else to think about in saying that it's possible you might see Turner playing more small forward next season. I know we've talked about his potential for starting at the shooting guard spot, as well as how well he plays when given minutes as the main ballhandler, but if you move forward under the premise that the point guard position absolutely belongs to Jrue Holiday, then you have to ask yourself where might Turner find the most minutes? Are his skills perhaps best suited to playing the small forward? If he can get himself into prime condition, can add some strength to effectively defend on the low block, then keep an eye on Turner's potential as a small forward. 

Of course, there are plenty of other factors the team must address as this summer moves forward. Right now, the starting small forward position rightfully belongs to Andre Iguodala. If the right deal doesn't come along in the next few months, then Turner's minutes will -- as they were this season -- be much more difficult to come by and will be patched together across three positions: point guard, shooting guard, and small forward.

But the main point of this blog is to answer the lingering questions about Turner: the franchise considers him a crucial piece for the future and Turner has been straight-forward with telling them he's prepping for a legitimate sophomore season.

Here are a few lineup ideas to consider:

Status Quo: 1.) Holiday, Meeks, Iguodala, Brand, Hawes. (Obviously worst case because there's no improvement.)

Idea #1: 1.) Holiday, Player X, Turner, Brand, Player X. (Obviously dependent on making a trade involving Iguodala for a scoring guard and perhaps drafting a big man.)

Idea #2: 1.) Holiday, Turner, Iguodala, Brand, Player X. (Dependent on acquiring a big man, whether by draft or trade, but could be a very difficult lineup to push because of the lack of shooting.)

We could play the lineup game all day. If you want all of the quick-hit info, please follow on Twitter. You can do that here: Deep Sixer

--Kate


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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:31 PM, 05/18/2011
    So saying Iguodala's gone (which he should be), Turner's a 3. My sentiments exactly. Thank you Ms. Fagan. (y) (y)
    BlackFeet01
  • 1 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:56 PM, 05/18/2011
    Kate, you are amazing. No one in the Philly media works harder than you; you really have your finger on the pulse of this team. I'm sure that Phil Jasner would be proud - you are a worthy successor. Thanks!
    guitarman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:11 PM, 05/18/2011
    Iguodala and Lou to Minnesota for the #2, then draft Kantner?
    JLB
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:11 PM, 05/18/2011
    like the idea, but your price is too high.

    Iggy alone is worth #2 pick.
    wordsword
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:49 PM, 05/18/2011
    Nobody that isn't impaired is going to give you the #2 pick for a 27 year old with Iguodala's limitations.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:13 PM, 05/18/2011
    TURNER isn't a Small Forward, he's a SHOOTING GUARD like JOE JOHNSON.

    TURNER and JOE JOHNSON (both 6'7) are the same type of player :

    1 - handle skills 2 - creativity 3 - versatility etc...

    to me Jodie Meeks can't be a starter, Turner should play as a SG with the same role than Joe Johnson with the Hawks, especially, Jrue Holiday can play off the ball, so turner can play the same way than joe johnson.

    If he's midrange improve, he can be a scorer to, he can score more than 20pts per game and take 7 or 8 rbds with more minutes and responsabilities.

  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:14 PM, 05/18/2011
    Don't like Turner at the 3. Repeat after me: Need to get bigger, Need to get bigger.
    Definitely, not smaller.
    bmac821
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:18 PM, 05/18/2011
    Maybe philly.com will let Gonzo stay on board to get Kate's coffee in the morning and do her laundry. Nice work, Kate, you and Sheil are the only REAL sports writers on staff.
    kgall
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:24 PM, 05/18/2011
    I like the idea of Turner at the 3...but i also like the idea of him running the point for some of the game. I think if we start games with Turner at the point it will help both him and Holiday get going. Holiday is a natural scorer who can play decently off the ball. Turner is a natural floor leader who can create shots WITH the ball. I think the NBA has changed recently in several ways that the sixers are built for: much more passing from all positions; faster, more athletic team defense. Having several players capable of running the point is a good thing that should be utilized...just as having several players who can guard different positions is an advantage. If we can somehow land a decent center the versatility of our players will be realized much more for the pluses than the minuses of having those type of players.
    murdock101
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:37 PM, 05/18/2011
    BlackFeet01: read the caveat: "if you move forward under the premise that the point guard position absolutely belongs to Jrue Holiday," and the other caveats: "If he can get himself into prime condition, can add some strength to effectively defend on the low block" and I would add, "dramatically improves his jump shot." Then the final and most important caveat: IF they trade Iguodala. All of that means that Meeks remains the two guard. Are you happy with that? Do you consider Meeks a starting two guard in the NBA other than for the Sixers?

    chuckw
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:41 PM, 05/18/2011
    My roster. Jrue, SG/or Turner if he can prove himself, Young, Brand, defensive center. Bench: Lou, Meeks, Hawes.
    Please get rid of Kopono, nocioni, and speights.
    All sixers have to do is pick up a decent center that can challenge the lane and get rebounds (perhaps get on in the draft). They don't need him to score. With Jrue, Young and Brand out there, they will score enough. This will give us a decent front court of Brand+Center. Young and Evan can both get rebounds. If brand or new center get in foul trouble, you have hawes coming off the bench, which is not too bad (he is only 23).
    penncrow19
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:56 PM, 05/18/2011
    Having a power forward like Dirk and a tough,defensive center like Chandler is how you win titles. Westbrook and Durant can run up and the court anyway they want, but a big,strong front court is where it is at, hope the sixers are wathcing and learning.
    lewisbratspis
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:59 PM, 05/18/2011
    maybe we can grab the Cavs no 4 and get us a centerpiece for the decade.
    lewisbratspis
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:12 PM, 05/18/2011
    What about trading Iggy to move up and draft that kid Biyampo(?).
    Not having seen him play I wonder if anybody has a take on him?
    Cameiros


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