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Pat Neshek believes in the young Phillies because he lived through similar success with the Astros

Veteran reliever Pat Neshek pitched for the 2015 Astros, a team that reached the playoffs after several losing seasons. He saw the same potential in this year's Phillies.

Pat Neshek spent 2015 with the Astros, a team that went from losing 100-plus games a few years prior to making the playoffs. He sees a lot of similarities with this year's Phillies.
Pat Neshek spent 2015 with the Astros, a team that went from losing 100-plus games a few years prior to making the playoffs. He sees a lot of similarities with this year's Phillies.Read moreOrlin Wagner / AP

SAN DIEGO — Pat Neshek is 37 years old. He's 10 years removed from elbow surgery, and his right arm has survived the last eight seasons. He has pitched for seven teams and made the playoffs five times, but he still lacks the World Series ring that would be the cherry on top of a fine career.

So, when he decided in December to re-sign with a Phillies team that lost 96 games last season, many of his fans on Twitter and even some friends and family were confounded, to put it mildly.

"People were like, 'Why did you sign there? Are you an idiot?' " Neshek said. "But I just liked how things were going."

Indeed, Neshek had insider information. He spent the first four months of last season with the Phillies before getting dealt to the Colorado Rockies at the trade deadline. And what he saw firsthand, coupled with the way many of the Phillies' young players performed last August and September, reminded Neshek of one of his former teams, a club that might as well be the model for all rebuilding franchises that have followed.

The Houston Astros lost 106, 107, 111, and 92 games in the four years that preceded Neshek signing a two-year contract before the 2015 season. Nobody expected much from the Astros in 2015. But outfielder George Springer blossomed in his first full year in the majors, shortstop Carlos Correa made an immediate impact after getting called up in midseason, Dallas Keuchel went from largely unknown to winning the Cy Young Award, and Jose Altuve established himself as an elite hitter. The Astros went 86-76, clinched a wild-card spot, and advanced to Game 5 of the division series.

It was the birth of a contender, the prelude to a World Series championship two years later. And from Neshek's seat in the bullpen, it all looks familiar to what the Phillies have done en route to spending the last month in first place in the National League East.

"I kind of went through this with the Astros in 2015," Neshek said this week, reflecting on the Phillies' progress. The Astros "had a good, young core. They had the resources to add free agents during the time I was there. It feels real similar to that. I think we're actually ahead of where the Astros were in '15. I think we're in a lot better place."

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Neshek admitted he "didn't have a clue" about which of the Phillies' young hitters would emerge. His view of the team's chances stemmed more from his belief in the potential of the young starting rotation.

Aaron Nola's 3.00 ERA over his final 18 starts last season gave him the look of an ace-in-the-making. Vince Velasquez, Nick Pivetta, Jerad Eickhoff, and Zach Eflin all had their moments, inconsistent as they were, to make Neshek think they could be reliable.

"I thought, if you could get those guys to step up," Neshek said. "And God, they've stepped up."

Nola has had a Keuchel-style breakthrough, putting himself in the early Cy Young conversation. Velasquez, Pivetta, and Eflin have taken steps forward, and the Phillies have the fourth-best ERA (3.70) among starting rotations in the National League.

But there's another similarity — the most meaningful one, Neshek said — between the 2018 Phillies and the 2015 Astros. That Astros club was led by first-year manager A.J. Hinch, who changed the culture in the clubhouse by creating what Neshek described as "an environment where guys can thrive." Phillies rookie manager Gabe Kapler has done the same with his relentless positivity and more-nurturing style than his old-fashioned predecessor, Pete Mackanin, Neshek said.

"Last year, there wasn't a good environment here for the young guys. It was a scary environment," Neshek said. "It was kind of, 'Sink or swim, or you're getting sent back down.' I know it's kind of how the big leagues used to be. But it's not fun. And I think a lot of front offices are sort of seeing that, with a lot of hires that are younger managers now to get that [more supportive] environment."

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The Phillies have the majors' youngest roster, with many players who are developing at the highest level. Kapler has fostered a culture in which players can make mistakes and grow from them. Third baseman Maikel Franco, rightfielder Nick Williams, and Velasquez are examples of young players who have gotten better from the beginning of the season.

By dropping $169.25 million in free agency on Neshek, first baseman Carlos Santana, righthander Jake Arrieta, and reliever Tommy Hunter, the Phillies added veteran leaders. And they have helped create at atmosphere in which the Phillies party hard after wins with laser lights, a smoke machine, and club music, and recover quickly from tough losses. They haven't lost more than four games in a row and are 20-11 in one-run games and 7-5 in extra innings.

But it's the young players who have carried the Phillies back to relevancy, Neshek said. And with 48 games remaining, it will be the young players who most determine whether the team will make the playoffs for the first time since 2011.

"I've been with some really good teams that were underdogs, and a key characteristic has been the young guys," Neshek said. "It's not something you always see in the big leagues where you see young guys having success. That's going to be really, really good for the future of Phillies baseball."

Just as it was for the Astros, beginning in 2015.