No news on Utley or Polanco

Both Chase Utley and Placido Polanco will seek second opinions on their injuries on Thursday. (Steven M. Falk / Staff Photographer)

CINCINNATI -- No news is, well, no news for the Phillies as far as Chase Utley and Placido Polanco are concerned. It's neither good nor bad the team still has yet to ascertain how severe the injuries to their infielders are.

Both players will go to New York on Thursday for second opinions. Utley will see hand specialist Andrew Weiland. Polanco will see orthopedic surgeon and Mets team physician David Altchek.

On Wednesday, Utley and Polanco were both examined in Philadelphia without conclusive results. Utley saw hand specialist Randall Culp and Polanco met with surgeon Steven Cohen.

"We'll have some more definitive information hopefully tomorrow," Phillies assistant GM Scott Proefrock said. "Right now we're still in the process of the evaluation."

Proefrock also said lefthander J.A. Happ will make another rehab start, his sixth, after pitching four innings for triple-A Lehigh Valley on Tuesday.

"He felt good afterward," Proefrock said of Happ. Assistant general manager Benny Looper was in Allentown to watch Happ.

Happ's 30-day rehab clock expires July 7, meaning he has time to make another start before the Phillies must make a decision on his status. Proefrock said it's possible to get an extension but not easy.

For the first time, Proefrock acknowledged the Phillies could simply send Happ to the minors because he has options remaining.

Happ will be in Pittsburgh on Thursday to throw a bullpen session in front of Phillies pitching coach Rich Dubee. Happ has a 6.98 ERA in five minor-league rehab games.