An updated look at the Phillies' 2013 payroll
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An updated look at the Phillies' 2013 payroll
One of the important revelations today: the Phillies should finish the season under the $178 million luxury tax threshold, meaning they won't incur a 30 percent penalty if they exceed it next year. Instead, that figure will be 17.5 percent. That's important, because the Phillies could very well go over.
Right now, they have $138.35 million guaranteed to 10 players. I'm projecting a $2.75 million arbitration salary for Nate Schierholtz, with Scott Hairston as my comparable, and I'm projecting $1.5 million for Antonio Bastardo. The Phillies usually sign a utility player for about $600,000 and a backup catcher for $800,000. Along with Domonic Brown, John Mayberry Jr., Vance Worley, Josh Lindblom and Jake Diekman, all of whom should make right around the minimum, the Phillies would have about $146.12 million going to 19 players.
Ruben Amaro Jr. indicated that he expects to have enough money to sign multiple high-profile free agents. He specifically mentioned the bullpen, where players like Carlos Villanueva, Mark Lowe, Peter Moylan, Jason Frasor, Joel Peralta, J.P. Howell and Randy Choate are all scheduled to be free agents.
The payroll:
Lineup
- Empty (3B/CF/LF)
- Chase Utley 2B - $15.0 million ($12.1 million against luxury tax threshold)
- Empty (3B/CF/LF)
- Ryan Howard 1B - $20.0 million ($25.0 million against luxury tax threshold)
- Empty (3B/CF/LF)
- Carlos Ruiz C - $5.0 million ($3.375 million against luxury tax threshold)
- Jimmy Rollins SS - $11.0 million ($9.5 million against luxury tax threshold)
- Domonic Brown RF - $0.480 million
Bench
- Nate Schierholtz LF/RF/LHB - $2.75 million
- Laynce Nix LF/1B/LHB - $1.35 million ($1.25 million against luxury tax threshold)
- John Mayberry Jr. LF/CF/RHB - $0.515 million
- Utility man - $0.600 million
- Backup Catcher - $0.800 million
Rotation
- Cole Hamels LHP - $24.0 million
- Cliff Lee LHP - $25.0 million ($24.0 million against luxury tax threshold)
- Roy Halladay RHP - $20.0 million
- Vance Worley RHP - $0.515 million
- Kyle Kendrick RHP - $4.5 million ($3.75 million against luxury tax threshold)
Bullpen
- Jonathan Papelbon - $13.0 million ($12.5 million against luxury tax threshold)
- Antonio Bastardo - $1.5 million
- Josh Lindblom - $0.515 million
- Jake Diekman - $0.495 million
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Comments (35)
Obvious move is to trade Halladay or Lee at some point, freeing up $20-+ million and you still start the year with a rotation of: Hamels, Lee/Halladay, Worley, Tyler Cloyd, KK. Bring in a few veterans arms for depth at AAA. All of a sudden, we're back to 2008 with Hamels atop the staff and we have guns leading off, in the outfield and (next year) at third base. If we keep the three aces, I don't see how we get enough offense.— eman- Finally, someone else besides me suggesting that a trade of Halladay or Lee wouldn't be that bad(preferably Lee). You could get a 10million per yr starter, a 10 million per yr hitter, and some more bullpen help or whatever allocation of money you'd prefer.Trade Lee and rollins this offseason, put galvis at SS and spend the next 2+ years bringing in some freakin offense.We won the whole darn thing with Cole as our ace and a dominant offense. Ruben let that 2009 world series impact his decisions too much, almost like he thought Cole wasn't going to get any better so he went overboard with (old)pitching. I've said before how much i really love watching our starters, but when trying to build a team you can't play favorites. Were an older team and that 25million goes a long way to rounding out a complete team. — The Pink Floyd
- Could someone explain what 'against luxury tax threshold' means?— 46 and 2
- The luxury tax is based on a players average salary of their contract not their salary for that year alone. If a player has a 4 yr deal for 20 mil and they are paid 3, 4, 6 and than 7 mil, the lux tax threshold is simply 5 mil — DogBiscuitthedope
- If a team's payroll is above 178 million for the season, they have to pay 1 dollar extra for every dollar over the limit (threshold) The penalties go up each subsequent year that you are over the limit. — commonwealth
- need to swing some deal for soriano where the cubs eat most of the contract and sign bourne for sure,.....maybe send Wigginton back to Oakland for McCarthy,...Beane doesn't hold onto guys at the end of their deals like McCarthy and wigginton still has a year left on an option— SyddBarrett
- Id move Lee over Halladay only because Doc has one year left, but then again Doc might be easier to move in that case. Not getting to worked up about Cloyd, he does deserve a shot but he has a ceiling a little bit higher than KK does. KK is great in his role, so keep him in it. Get another vet or two in the bullpen unless some in the group of Stutes, De Fratus, Aumont make waves. Maybe Pettibone will compete for a rotation spot next year?— ESFjellin
- I don't get Amaro. He signs Lee to a massive contract then want's to dump the contract? What about depth in the starting rotation? The last couple of years KK has been the guy to come in and fill in a hole when someone goes down--I think he's better suited for that role than an everyday #5. If the phils trade Lee, they have to replace Lee and Blanton and have someone who can come in like KK has this year and last year.— 46 and 2
- I guess we're all a bunch of genius GMs on here, who's next? What's your take?— 46 and 2
- You know they might sign Blanton, keep Kyle in the Pen along with Lind. Then they go out for an OF and 3B. That is the two spots they will need to fill. The pitching could actually make a comeback if arms hold up and the Pen is added to as efs wrote with the kids rather than another older arm.— Koons
- Grade: Incomplete. If you're gonna "retool" and truly give yourself the resources to rebuild next year and beyond, you gotta go all out. That Blanton, Pierre and Wigginton are still here concerns me. Lee, I'll wait and see what happens at winter meetings. Bottom line: I just can't bring myself to trust that Amaro is the man to see this whole thing through. The last paragraph above scares me. Throwing big money at relievers is pretty much the opposite plan of any top front office in baseball. See Rays, Tampa. Then again so is pretty much anything Amaro has done since last year (HTML deleted)
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And one solid 8th inning reliever from above— WFChamps - Thanks David...this is a very helpful look.
Trying to construct a roster in the mid 170's, which, after $10 million for benefits, would put us a little under the 2013 luxury tax...
I'd keep the starting pitching...unless Cloyd outpitches Kendrick in spring training, and then I'd move KK to bullpen--where he is doing great right now.
Murphy talks about 146 million to 19 players...
1. I'd invest 6 million and get the three best set up men you can buy
2. Melky Cabrera: 12 million
3. I'd drop Mayberry and resign Pierre: he just gets hits, 1.5
million
4. Delmon Young 7 million
5. Izturiz for 3b 2.5 million (i'm not thrilled with any potential 3b free agents)
6. galvis as utility
7. kratz as backup catcher
that would put us at 175 million, we'd get younger at a couple of positions, keep our theoretical strength of starting pitching. Then in 2014---you take off another 36 million from Utley and Doc.
Don't worry---I plan on keeping my day job.— kgood - Salary cap is jumping to $189m in 2014 as well.
For set up guy, I'd be interested to see if the Reds ppck up Madson's option at $9.5m. If they don't he could be a steal coming off surgery. He might not want to come back though.
I like Swisher better than Melky. Melky is probably getting a lot more than 12 I would think. Dude is sporting a .900 OPS. Think he gets 5/85. Swisher could be had for like 3/40.
I like Grady Sizemore too.
Brown, Sizemore, Swisher, I like. Brown, Victorino, Tori Hunter I like.
I realize Mark Renolds is a horrible strikeout machine but I'd give him a 1 year deal.
— JoeinSouthPhilly - HA! Those are the arms who would be available in the off season? WOW, let me get in line for my season ticket package now. Face it, they are going to stink again. I just hope they dump RAJ by then.— kozykoz26
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