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After shaky minor-league outing, Roy Halladay adjusts to new reality

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    CLEARWATER, Fla. - The new reality for Roy Halladay started well before 10:59 a.m. Saturday, when he launched an 89 m.p.h. fastball on a back field at the Carpenter Complex. Each time Halladay threw, pitching prospect Jonathan Pettibone clicked the radar-gun trigger. He tilted it so pitching coach Rich Dubee could see the two digits.

    This happened 81 times Saturday while Blue Jays minor-leaguers smashed Halladay's sinkers and cutters. The first digit of the velocity reading was nine just once or twice.

    Afterward, Halladay spoke of "evolving with his body" and attacking hitters with a different approach. In this new reality, Halladay must reinvent himself, and one of the greatest pitchers of his generation is no longer hiding from it.

    "It's not a boxing match," Halladay said. "It's not strength vs. strength. It's a chess match. It's competition of the mind and execution and being smarter and being more prepared."

    Halladay said he felt strong. He wanted to pitch more. He expects to make one more spring-training start and take the ball April 3 in Atlanta.

    This was a long way from the perfect game, postseason no-hitter, and countless moments that made Halladay one of the most revered figures in all of baseball. He blamed the three runs, seven hits, two walks, and one hit batter in four innings Saturday on a desire to throw more sinkers and cutters than usual. Those are the pitches he threw a combined 60 percent of the time in 2012, and they will decide his fate.

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    When asked to evaluate Halladay's performance, Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said he would not discuss it. He then added, "He was OK. He got his work in."

    The Toronto farmhands were hardly fooled. They swung and missed a mere three times at 81 pitches. When they made contact it was solid - three of the seven hits were doubles. Halladay faced 18 batters and retired seven of them.

    "Going in with the plan that we had, trying to go hard as much as we could against a minor-league team, probably isn't the best plan," Halladay said. "But that's kind of what we needed to do. It's going to be something that's going to be important for me during the season - to be able to go hard in soft counts."

    With decreased velocity and altered mechanics, Halladay has struggled to unlock an effective cutter, his most frequently used pitch. He tinkered with the grip Saturday and said he found a solution later in the outing.

    Whatever the case, Halladay must now outsmart the opposition. His pristine command is wavering. His fastball is slower. He talked of throwing hard stuff when hitters typically expect an off-speed pitch and vice versa.

    Halladay thinks he can add a few clicks to his fastball's velocity. He was between 86 and 89 m.p.h. according to one scout's gun. But pitching to that speed, Halladay said, is "probably something I'll have to do more."

    "The velocity for not having pitched was good," Dubee said. "He sat 88 to 90 consistently and finished the game at 89 almost 80 pitches into it. So arm-strength wise, that was good, and he feels like there is more there."

    This was no ordinary minor-league appearance. Eight Phillies officials, including team president David Montgomery and Amaro, watched from a building above. Twenty-one Phillies minor-league pitchers gathered behind the backstop. Halladay took the field to a smattering of applause from the small crowd.

    Halladay had thrown a total of 25 pitches in the previous 10 days. A stomach virus robbed him of 10 pounds, strength, and a normal routine. On Saturday, he did not look comfortable, but Halladay later disputed that notion.

    "I didn't feel like I was laboring at all," Halladay said. "So that was good."

    Extra bases

    For the first time this spring, Manuel played Freddy Galvis in right field, a likely sign that the Phillies are trying to figure out how to keep infielder Yuniesky Betancourt, who hit a three-run home run in Saturday's 13-4 Phillies win over Baltimore. Galvis handled the only fly ball hit his way. . . . The Phillies homered five times. Chase Utley hit two of them. Domonic Brown's home run was his seventh of the spring and Ryan Howard's was his sixth. . . . Aaron Cook continued to make his case for a spot on the pitching staff. Cook, on a day the wind was howling to left field, retired the first six batters he faced and allowed just two runs on four hits in 42/3 innings.


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    Comments  (68)
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:50 PM, 03/23/2013
      Took Roberts several years to adjust, a warhorse his arm wearing from heroic usage for 6 or seven years. Remained gritty. Gave up a bunch of homers, and won half his games for an average team, finally withering in the late '50's. When he resurfaced with the Orioles, he was crafty Robbie, locating a fast ball, using breaking balls to keep hitters off balance. Heck if they'd had Robbie as a third or fourth starter in '64, might've held on and won the pennant, as he won 14 games for the O's that year. Halliday can adjust if anyone can. He sure pitched a lot in 2010 and 2011. Maybe he left it all out there in that 1-0 loss to the Cards.
      retzlaff
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:59 AM, 03/24/2013
      I believe nothing by this organization concerning the effectiveness of any of the player personnel..They are desperate to sell the overpriced tickets, that in previous seasons were gobbled-up...but now seem doubtful. That Roy's latest outing was made in the "shadows," speaks much lower
      volume, than Amaro's silence speaks.
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:29 AM, 03/24/2013
      Can't blame you, Phiggles. They are not too be trusted. RAJ saying he won't discuss it -- Classic Smug Ruben. Can't wait until the tough questions come; for instance: "Since you are responsible for shaping this team, why did you go into yet another season with a half-baked roster? Why are we still short a corner outfielder? If Chase and Ryan are indeed healthy, why would you go into a season without even one good righthanded starter?
      Copper34
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:51 PM, 03/23/2013
      he's toast
      WFChamps
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:23 PM, 03/23/2013
      Time to learn the knuckle-curve.
      Romus
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:14 PM, 03/23/2013
      Jamie moyer turner pitching "backwards" into a 2nd career and an art form. holiday will be fine
      stayoutofphilly
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:21 PM, 03/23/2013
      Moyer was a crafty lefty who was able to extend his career with deception as his pitches lost velocity . I'm not so sure Halladay can do the same thing. He is a power pitcher with an incredible mecahincal delivery. Baseballs look like beach balls coming out of his hand at 85 MPH.

      What a hot mess Rube created here with a $170 M payroll. Sounds like Rube,Halladay, and Montgomery are all delusional. Montgomery is on the radio talking about how his new outfield has gotten younger. Yo dude younger isnt necessarily better. Who cares if its an outfield that avgs 27 years of age if they can't play? Knucklehead. Mayberry,Nix are .230 hitters and D.Young is not the answer. Made worse is that Cholly will have Revere batting in the 8 hole wasting his speed.

      This pitching staff with Doc throwing batting practice might be the worst 3-4-5 in baseball. kendrick,Lannan and Docs backup I assume will be Aaron Cook? Mother Mary of God. Well I guess I will be spending a lot of time in Cape May this summer.
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:54 PM, 03/26/2013
      stayout and Argo, what were you watching. Jamie Moyer NEVER had much in the way of velocity.
      Frankly, I'll put a little more into the notion that Roy Halladay is going to come out of this one on two feet and doing fine. It's either that or give in to all the whining boo boo birdies on philly.com, led by chief whiner, Matt Gelb.
      Get a new schtick, Gelb!
      BEMiller
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:25 PM, 03/23/2013
      Not good. Many great pitchers become mere mortals once they lose that much off their fastball. I cringed when I saw the Jamie Moyer reference. But if anyone can do it, it's probably Doc. We likely won't see the same guy again and that's tough for everyone involved.
      PhillySubsMac
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:37 PM, 03/23/2013
      He's done...Minor leaguers rocking him? What speed he is ineffective. Trade him and start rebuilding the farm. We all knew he was toast last year...delaying the inevitable.
      Phillyfan666
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:47 PM, 03/23/2013
      It happens to everyone. That being said coming off an illness that knocks 10 pounds off you, it will take a month to get ramped back up. Will he be as dominant as he was, probably not, but his fastball will add another 2 mph or so as he strengthens.
      zonaindie2
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:47 PM, 03/23/2013
      get used to kendricks being the 3rd starter this season halladay is getting hit hard..real hard.
      only 9
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:50 PM, 03/23/2013
      He says he'll adjust and I hope he does but it seems Halladay seems to only pitch one way and he's getting slammed.
      Phillies2008WSChamps
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:02 PM, 03/23/2013
      I'm highly concerned. What Phillies fan wouldn't be? But to come on here and say "he's toast" or "he's done"...

      What has Doc done other than give everything he had the last three years to help the Phillies try to win another championship?

      Why do you sound almost glad?

      You gleeful prophets of doom must be so proud of yourselves.
      dasher
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:16 PM, 03/23/2013
      it happens with power pitchers, one minute you got it and the next you don't i.e. webb, santana, carpenter, and linsecum. some can adjust but those who relied on the cutter usually cannot.


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