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With Herndon on the DL, is it time for Diekman?

As you may have read on this site, the Phillies have placed righthander David Herndon on the 15-day disabled list with elbow inflammation. He is scheduled to undergo an MRI in the near future. In the meantime, the Phillies have several options down on the farm, and the 40-man roster flexibility to do whatever they feel is in the best interest of the club.

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With Herndon on the DL, is it time for Diekman?

POSTED: Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:36 PM
Jake Diekman has tallied 17 strikeouts and three walks in the 11 innings at Triple-A Lehigh Valley this season. (Matt Slocum/AP Photo)

As you may have read on this site, the Phillies have placed righthander David Herndon on the 15-day disabled list with elbow inflammation. He is scheduled to undergo an MRI in the near future. In the meantime, the Phillies have several options down on the farm, and the 40-man roster flexibility to do whatever they feel is in the best interest of the club. 

The most intriguing option is lefty Jake Diekman, who drew raves from the coaching staff for his performance during spring training. Diekman is on the 40-man roster, although that might not be a major factor since the Phillies have one open spot there. What they will likely consider are the 17 strikeouts and three walks that Diekman has tallied in 11 innings at Triple-A Lehigh Valley this season. The hard-throwing lefty has allowed one run on 13 hits this season. He last pitched on Sunday, when he struck out three and walked two in 1 1/3 innings. Before that, he pitched on April 26. 

Adding another lefty to the mix would make sense heading into a three-game series against the Braves, who feature lefty sluggers Brian McCann and Jason Heyward as well as leadoff hitter Michael Bourn. The Phillies could opt to go the veteran route, as lefty Raul Valdez has 15 strikeouts and no walks along with a 3.14 ERA in 14 1/3 innings. He would have to be added to the 40-man roster. 

If the Phillies want a righty, veteran Brian Sanches (12 strikeouts, 2 walks, 3.21 ERA in 14 innings) would make sense. Prospect Justin De Fratus is on the disabled list with an elbow injury, while Phillippe Aumont has struggled with his command, walking nine against 13 strikeouts in 8 1/3 innings at Triple-A. 

Now might be as good a time as any to throw Diekman into the mix. Not only do the Phillies have an immediate need, they are hardly settled in front of closer Jonathan Papelbon, who recorded his eighth save on Monday night. Antonio Bastardo issued a one-out walk in the eighth, and Chad Qualls allowed an RBI single and two-run home run as the Cubs rallied to tie the game at 4-4 before the Phillies won it in the eighth on Placido Polanco's two-run double. 

Diekman has the potential to make the sort of impact that Mike Stutes and Bastardo made last season. If the Phillies think they might end up needing another option at the back of the bullpen down the road, this might be a good time to throw Diekman into the fire and see how he responds. 



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Comments  (23)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:47 PM, 05/01/2012
    Just a guess, but I think Thome will go to the minors, decide he still can't contribute, and being the gentleman he is, will retire thus saving Charlie, the organization, and himself the embarrassment of being released.
    phineas
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:42 PM, 05/01/2012
    Phils should release Thome and bring up Posadnik. They could use his bat right now.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:26 PM, 05/01/2012
    His hitting .200 in AAA bat?
    s
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:49 AM, 05/01/2012
    I am a big Jordan Whatcott guy. He has pitched 16 innings of relief this year without giving up a run. Only 7 hits and struck out 17. Mid 90's fastball, sharp breaking slider at the knees. Picked up his first save of the year for Trevor May last night. Who will get the call? My money is old washed up Brian Sanches. He fits the Phillies profile.
    Dull
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:42 AM, 05/01/2012
    Herndon is on the DL for ERA inflammation. Unfortunately for him there is no cure.
    coloradoeagle
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:25 AM, 05/01/2012
    Mark and s - I couldn't agree more with your assessments. Why they are not using Savery is a question that deserves an answer - there almost HAS to be something wrong with him. As for Diekman, can anyone tell me why he was sent down in the first place? If anybody in AAA has major league talent, it's him. Qualls' poor outing is an indication of two things: 1 - he's human. 2 - they need another alternative - Diekman is that alternative.
    dwp66
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:47 AM, 05/01/2012
    If I had to guess as to why Diekman was sent down, I'd guess because of the way they try to juggle all the guys to manage keeping them in the system. Savery was on the 40 man roster last year. Once a guy is on the 40 man roster, his option clock starts and you basically have 3 years to see if he can make it in the bigs (a 4th year in some cases). Diekman only hit the 40 man roster this year. So he's essentially got an extra year than Savery. Savery is also a little older and they've invested a bit more in him. Once a guy is on the 40 man roster If two guys like that are close, you'll often see the one they can hang onto a bit longer sent down. People often neglect this juggling aspect of building rosters just as they live in fantasy lands where there are no contract issues. Both play very heavily into who gets the call when. If a team doesn't play that game they can end up losing good players or paying a lot of money for players who aren't contributing.

    I believe Herndon is in his last option year. So he could be kept in AAA if someone comes up and blows them away. But they'll be faced with a decision on Herndon next year no matter what. He's also eligible for arbitration next year. So the urgency of seeing what he has is way above Diekman. They can take their time with Diekman.

    Remember too that evaluating is as much for the ability to trade a guy as it is for him to contribute.
    s
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:14 AM, 05/01/2012
    I love a guy making fun of "knowledgeable" Phillies fans not knowing Savery was back up and has been for a while. If you are going to throw stones JBin make sure you know what you are talking about.
    Captain
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:03 AM, 05/01/2012
    Herndon can stay on the DL all season.
    jimmymack
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:54 AM, 05/01/2012
    13 hits and 3 walks in 11 innings for Diekman? He needs more work in the minors. Sounds like Valdes is the guy.
    blaqjaq
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:38 AM, 05/01/2012
    @JPinPA. Savery was recalled when they put Lee on the DL.
    EL Zorro
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:13 AM, 05/01/2012
    Exactly. Lee went on the DL the 21st. Savery was recalled. They used him on the 22nd and 23rd. He gave up one unearned run on the 23rd. Haven't seen him since.
    s
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:18 AM, 05/01/2012
    Anything to spark hope. Now, even the pitching, other than the starters and Papelbon, have turned somewhat sour. Give the kid a shot. There is nothing to lose and Hernndon never really excited anyone other than Charlie!
    gotedge
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:11 AM, 05/01/2012
    For you knowledgeable Phillies fans who don't know where Savery is, he was optioned to LV over 2 weeks ago.
    JBinPA
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:39 AM, 05/01/2012
    The last thing they need right now is a failing bullpen behind Papelbon. Bring the guy up.
    jerseyshorefan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:30 AM, 05/01/2012
    The good news is that stiff David Herndon is on the D/L! Herndon's been wasting a roster spot for over 2 years now.

    With this anemic offense, the Phils can't afford another bullpen implosion like they did last night.

    It's not often the Phils have a 3 run lead as they almost never score 3 runs to have any lead in the 1st place.

    Bring up Diekman ASAP!
    johnpaulcpa
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:20 AM, 05/01/2012
    Horst may also be considered. Lefty who's done some middle relief in the majors (Reds last year). He's the guy we got for Valdez. His ERA is pretty consistently under 3 (currently 2.77 in AAA). Given that Herndon mostly handled middle/long relief and Kendrick is currently starting seems like they may call a guy like Horst before Diekman. Diekman and Savery are somewhat redundant unless Bastardo goes on the DL.
    s
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:09 AM, 05/01/2012
    They really appear to be limiting Bastardo. Not a good sign. Put my vote in for Diekman. He really started hitting his stride last year and he hasn't really faltered. I'd like to see how he does against major league hitters. To me, he looks better than Savery. And yes, where has Savery been? He's on the active roster and they haven't used him since April 23rd. They could have brought Savery in last night to face LaHair -- lefty/lefty. Maybe Charlie didn't want to use 3 relievers in one inning or he wanted to save Savery as a LH for the Braves? Seems like he would have left Bastardo in there last year. Something's up with him.
    s
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:49 AM, 05/01/2012
    Clearly Bastardo is hurt and has been since Aug 1 last season. It's not mechanics and it's not tipping pitches, it's flat out injury and loss of velocity/movement on his pitches. Where is Savery? Not that I love his stuff but he's an arm....De fratus is TJ surgery in waiting....Aumont? Never seen a big guy choke the ball like him. He's either still a mental case or also has an elbow issue. He is way too wild for this stage of his career and with the stuff he has. Only an elbow injury causes that kind of wildness. Suddenly the farm doesn't look that stocked on pitching. Diekman and Valdes might be it, folks.
    Mark1npt
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:52 PM, 04/30/2012
    Duh...why not? He dominated in the Spring, but got sent down. He is doing everything possible in AAA...why not? Bastardo is not pitching as effectively as last season. Stutes isn't either, nor is Herndon. Time to give Diekman a chance. Nothing to loose by giving him and "in season" audition.
    drhoffman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:49 PM, 04/30/2012
    Do it please. Do something new and exciting. This team seriously needs new blood.
    PhileaglyersFan


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