Gonzo: Don't count out the Fightin's just yet

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Gonzo: Don't count out the Fightin's just yet

Charlie Manuel is a nice guy - or at least he treats most of the press with respect, which is what passes for pleasant as far as most of us are concerned. He wasn't in such a good mood before the Phils went out and beat the Yanks in Game 5, however. He seemed sort of annoyed, actually.

I don't blame him.

There's a way the media sausages are made, and it's a lot like how the Fightin's win - messy. When a team is down three games to one, some journalists start planning ahead. Some of that involves asking questions about what happens after the World Series is over - even though it isn't yet and might not be for a while. It's a delicate process, or it ought to be. Problem is, most reporters are about as subtle as a hand buzzer or a plastic flower that squirts water. (Not me, of course.)

So Cholly was sitting there before Game 5, and the first question he fielded was about what happens to Cole Hamels and Brad Lidge next year. Not later in the Series or even later that night in Lidge's case. They might as well have gone up to Chuck and patted him on the back and handed him a nice parting gift like the World Series home game. Charlie wasn't in the mood to play, though.

"We're kind of getting ahead [of ourselves] because we've still got time," he said. "We might play a long time yet."

I don't think anyone believed him. I certainly didn't see people rushing back to their computers to reserve rooms at the Marriott in Saddle Brook or the Upper East Side. That's the thing about this team - almost no one believes in the Phils but the Phils and their fans. The Fightin's are starting to take that personally, and it's pretty great.

I mean, what did they expect Charlie to say? We're finished - I'm making vacation reservations at a time share in Boca Raton, Fla., as soon as this God-forsaken interview is over?

But his answer wasn't good enough, so someone rephrased (classic reporter strategy) and tried again: "Simply put, what gives you the confidence that your team can win the next three games?" It was the "simply put" that made it great. The guy should have just flipped Charlie the finger - would have saved time.

"Because first of all, during the season, 162 games, you can win three games in a row," Manuel said. "If you're a winning team, you do that quite often."

I kept waiting for Manuel to hop over the table and strangle someone or at least hand out a few noogies, but he restrained himself. Like I said, nice man.

Shane Victorino wasn't nearly as good at hiding his contempt. He received the same treatment as Charlie. "Obviously you want to win," a reporter began, "but if you don't this year, can you talk about what this past year for you personally has been . . .?"

I literally cringed. It was like asking someone to deliver his own eulogy while he was still breathing.

"I don't know what you're trying to get out of me, but I'm not satisfied yet," Victorino said. "I don't care what I've done up to this point. All-Star Game, defending world champ, I want to be a champ in '09. We're focused on that right now. I'm not worried about anything else."

None of the Fightin's are, but that's obviously a hard concept for certain people to grasp.

Just remember I'm only the messenger here: Before Game 5, a cake built to look like a two-foot-tall Harry Kalas arrived in the press box. It had the trademark powder blue jacket and everything.

Cosmi's Pastries - building creepy cakes since 1947! - sent it over to the Phillies in the hopes that Fox would show it on the air, thereby getting a little free publicity for the South Philly bakery. Instead, the Phils fed it to the press - because team representatives thought it was weird and, you know, the media will eat anything. So, yeah, they carved up Harry Kalas last night and served him to a bunch of paunchy journalists.

Digest in peace, Harry.

People were standing around the Kalas cake when one reporter nodded at it and asked, "is that in poor taste?" Without missing a beat, someone else quipped, "No - Harry's delicious.". . . Anyone see Thursday's forecast for New York? If the Phils win tomorrow and force Game 7, Mother Nature might get involved (again) - this time with snow. . . . So glad the Series is headed back to New York. I didn't want to watch the Bombers celebrate in Philly. Besides, it's long past time for Yankees fans to leave town. It was like having an annoying relative crash at your place for the holidays - after a while, you start fantasizing about them having an "accident" and tripping down the stairs.

 


Contact columnist John Gonzalez at 215-854-2813 or gonzalez@phillynews.com.

 

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Posted 07:23 AM, 11/03/2009
Maddy44
good to see EVERYONE taking Harry The K back to NY,....great Karma,...now if Ryan Howard could finish off the last piece before boarding the train,...that would be awesome
Posted 08:59 AM, 11/03/2009
DrewInNewHampshire
jeez gonzo my grandfather tripped down our stairs and broke his hip last holiday. what a jerk!
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Posted 11:15 AM, 11/03/2009
Johnnydeagle
GREAT article John!!! I agree, most sports fans around the country have written us off. I'm glad the Phills are put off by it, and I hope they channel that energy into these next two games!!! Is someone oppressed? Bummer, LOL!!!
Posted 11:34 AM, 11/03/2009
atp2007
Monday's game could easily have been the Series winning Game 4 for the Phils. All it would have taken was a timely hit on Friday to give Pedro a couple of runs of support and a win, and a closer who can get thru one inning Sunday and not give up a run or two, or.......
Posted 11:42 AM, 11/03/2009
jhjack
Can someone show Charley the 1993 video for Game 6 - DO NOT Fregosi this up...DO NOT put the ball back in Mitch's (Brad hands)...he's damaged goods....he's got Lee for relief in Game 7 (Like fregosi had Schilling) and whomever is his Game 7 starter - everyone else can pitch in Game 6 - Blanton, Hamels, Happ - whomever - just don't repeat what Fregosi did...
Posted 11:56 AM, 11/03/2009
aldawg
what do you mean you didnt want to see the yankees celebrate in philly? who says they are gonna celebrate in ny?? last i checked 2 games remain..
Posted 11:59 AM, 11/03/2009
Firebird7478
Yeah, Drew, as if Gonzo knew that!
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Posted 12:11 PM, 11/03/2009
joe$
I fantasize about oppressed tripping and falling down the stairs and breaking his hip. And then having his hands amputated so we don't have to be subject to his mindless drivel anymore.
Posted 12:30 PM, 11/03/2009
Cat
Having Yankees fans in town is like having a plague of locusts visit, or maybe a malignant tumor, can't decide which.
Posted 01:14 PM, 11/03/2009
BFlint
Yes. Pedro wins game 6. Happ starts game 7 and if needed Hamels can pitch 2 innings. Phils in 7. Utley and Lee share MVP Honors.
Posted 02:14 PM, 11/03/2009
Vanzant
Its over Jonny..its over
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Posted 03:08 PM, 11/03/2009
TBear
'Oppressed..' my man, if you keep letting the good natured Gonz-Man get to you like this, you're gonna be a basket-case pretty soon! Take heart pal, we won an elimination game and we'll have the joy of winning a couple more.....up in their playpen!
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