NHL cancels full preseason
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NHL cancels full preseason
Without any formal bargaining sessions having taken place in the nearly two weeks since the NHL officially locked out its players on Sept. 15, the league formally announced the cancellation of all remaining preseason games.
No hockey will be played until Oct. 11 at the earliest.
Previously, the league canceled all preseason games up until the beginning of October. On Thursday, all remaining games were axed, including:
Mon. Oct. 1 vs. New Jersey
Tues. Oct. 2 at Toronto
Fri. Oct. 5 at New Jersey
Sat. Oct. 6 at Chicago
The Flyers are still tentatively scheduled to open their season on Oct. 11 in a nationally televised game against the Bruins. That game seems to have a snowball’s chance in hell of happening at this point.
The league is expected to formally begin canceling regular season games next week.
The Phantoms - including young NHLers Brayden Schenn, Sean Couturier, Zac Rinaldo, Erik Gustafsson, Brandon Manning and Harry Zolnierczyk - open training camp on Saturday at the Voorhees, N.J., Skate Zone under new head coach Terry Murray. They will be in town for a little more than a week before shipping up to Glens Falls, N.Y., to open training camp.
The NHL and NHL Players’ Association are scheduled to begin three days of bargaining talks on Friday in New York, though they are not slated to include negotiating on the only topic that has stalled talks so far: How to split the league’s growing $3.3 billion revenue between players and owners. Instead, the two sides will speak about non-core issues like player health and safety, concussion issues, etc.
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Comments (33)
Frank, on DNL you made a remark about Gary Bettman having done a lot to "grow the game". I really wish you had worded that differently, my friend.
I'm of the opinion that he has grown the LEAGUE which he represents. But he has done a great deal of damage to the sport and the ice hockey community as a whole.
I'm trying my best NOT to wish ill things on the people involved in this lockout. It will change nothing (apart from aging myself faster with anger). But it gets harder by the day....
(Perhaps I should stop reading articles about it! LOL!)
Comment removed.- Hey Frank,
Many props for the usage of the phrase "snowball's chance in hell"! That has long been one of my favorite phrases in the English language 
Bettman needs to stop servicing Crosby, and get to negotiating! Someone please tell me what is wrong with a 50-50 split of the HRR. Last time I checked, I had never seen a fan wearing a jersey with "Snider" or "Luukko" (as in, Peter) on the back. Why on earth do the owners feel they deserve more than 50% of it???— uncle meat- Maybe because, like every other business owner, they are the ones taking an investment risk with their capital? Risk and return are directly proportional. The players have no investment capital on the line.
How many companies do you think spend 50% of total revenue on employee salaries? Not many, I guarantee.— srmzeus11 - Your trying to rationalize this by comparing it to other business. The NHL is an entertainment business not a steel mill. The owners are nothing more than a glorified promoter for the real talent. These players are the most important asset these owners have. No players = no money. The players are the ones who have really sacrificed and risk it all every night for your enjoyment ( Pronger).
As far as financial risk goes the NHL is a well established league (see 3.3billion dollars). Its not the early 70's anymore when owning a hockey team was a potential risk. Many teams (north based) are in stable markets and present little "risk' to the owner anymore. The owners can just sit back and cash checks while people flood their arenas paying ridiculous amounts of money to do so.
In the NHL a players salary is not a salary. Its an expense. - On the bright side - the Phantoms should kick @$$ this year!!— uncle meat
I don't know if this is helpful, but yesterday I got together with one of my buddies to work out an acceptable split of a hypothetical $3 billion, and it only took us, like, 20 minutes.— 1980- In the NHL "full preseason" is the entire regular season. Regular season means absolutely nothing in hockey.— TEMPLE55
- Disagree, Temple55. The NHL regular season is there to determine who gets hurt for the playoffs.— 1980
- Can someone explain how the Flyers signed all of these players to large contracts which would likely put them well over the salary cap if the owners have their way in the new labor negotiations?— fischman
- A darn shame! The fan base for hockey just went south. Remember the baseball lockout that took years to get the fans back in the park. The up side is that minor league hockey is just as entertaining ...and tons cheaper!— dogman5
- The Flyers know that they'll sell out no matter what because we love hockey and we love this team. Snider also wants what we want, and isn't a part of the small market block holding this thing up. Philly, New York, Boston...they could easily thrive in a free market economy. But the NHL isn't a free market economy. Revenue sharing is a hybrid form of socialism and Snider is a capitalist all the way.— Scorekeeper
- Heard that there is a lingerie hockey league starting up....hoping to get season dickets.....— bigdaddyG
- who cares....after the 19000 plus elitist hockey fans....nobody in the city gives a dam.....until they reach the second round of the playoffs.....and with Homer in charge and Smiling Eddie at the helm, we dont really have to worry about that........— nuggett
- If we have a long lockout can we at least be rewarded for returning to the game with an end to Gary Bettman's reign and his shootout. And if not how about other sports emulate hockey: baseball having a homerun derby after 9 innings, the NBA having a top player head-to head game of HORSE after 4 quarters. Settle Up Soon!— RI_flyers_guy
- I just read an article in Sports Illustrated that pointed out the fact that the NHL has cancelled more games due to work stoppages than the three other (more successful) pro leagues combined! That is pathetic. I blame Bettman for all of this. As much as I love hockey it is definitely a second tier sport. The players should be paid accordingly and the knucklehead owners should exercise some restraint instead of continually changing the financial rules whenever things don't go their own way. This should be a 24 team league. Hockey doesn't need to be played south of the Mason-Dixon line. Give those retirees in Florida and the Carolinas minor league clubs.— schnitzelboy
- How can anyone miss paying $125 per ticket for a meaningless game in the middle of January.
— TEMPLE55 - Do they believe anyone will miss the regular season. It means nothing in Hockey.— TEMPLE55
- It comes as no surprise that the pre-season is now down the drain officially. As I said earlier, I have difficulty believing that there will be any serious action taken until November: that is, to provide enough time for a somewhat-abbreviated camp after the suits get done wordsmithing things to death such that the vaunted but hopelessly overhyped "winter classic" takes place on time.
As a fan going back to the days of the Original Six, I have a hard time seeing how both sides can't see the self-evident wisdom of agreeing on a 50-50 split of HRR. I suppose my problem is trying to apply logic.
Were it in my power, Bettman would be fired immediately, along with his other shootout-promoting, Crosby-fawning lackeys and replaced with men who know the game. And I mean old school types who played the game in the glory days of the '80s when the players policed themselves and no team got constant kid-glove treatment.
I can think of no other enterprise in the history of mankind, save for the possible exception of kamikaze pilots, so hell-bent on public self-destruction.— 1940LaSalle - — srmzeus11--oh no!! Investing capital!! Poor, poor, owners! Just imagine--them taking "risks" with money while the players take risks with their health. hey — srmzeus11, it's not a risk if you're "risking" money while expecting to make a monetary gain by it. Oh no! They're risking making a killing off of players and fans! It looks like there is a snowball's chance in hell that I'll ever be watching the NHL again, as well as almost anybody I know that watches hockey.— Major Domo Billy Bojangles
- You know what the totally insane part of this whole thing is? As soon as a new CBA is reached, Snider and all of the other owners will sick their financial people on the contract with one goal in mind: How do we beat, ignore, get around, fold, spindle and mutilate this contract? The owners want to restrict player contracts to 5 years? Who said Snider had to sign Bryzgalov to a 9 year contract in the first place? It would all be laughable if it weren't so sad.
I hope I can find some hockey on the internet to watch next month. I'll miss the game terribly, but the Flyers and the rest of the NHL can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned.
— TexColorado - i just understand how people are not getting the fact the players are the problems not the owners because they are ones asking more money and the owners cant provide that, yeah i mean the owners give players alot of money, but that's not the owners fault because if they dont give great players alex, crosby, stamkos big money, they walk, they still get critized for not paying the big money or give them big money and they still get criticized, players are always the victims to the fans, but sometimes they can be enemys to the sport, they are ones wanting fort knox, it's not like the owners are giving more money without asking the players, im sure they would love to give them alot less to keep their business alive.— lonewolf83
- you mean i won't get to see goons on ice anytime soon?— lanzascat
- The NHL is dead now...less than 2 million fans nationwide, less than a 3rd Division soccer game in the England countryside. Way to go, Gary!— BirdinParadise
- Lonewolf, stick to Football, you obviously know nothing about Hockey and the greed of the owners. Free Market Economics 101, supply and demand, etc...stupid, stupid owners, myopic, greedy and Eddie S is the ringleader.— BirdinParadise
- When the strike ends, you won't even know it. Texas Hold'em has already overtaken hockey for air time. What's next, the World Series of Wiffleball? They did it to themselves.— hallux
- dude, where have you seen that the Players are asking for more money??? they currently have 57% of the HRR, the owners are trying to reduce that to 46%, AND change the definition of HRR. Not to mention limiting contracts to 5 years, lowering minimum salaries and eliminating signing bonuses. They are absurd demands for a league that had double the profits last year than it EVER had. THe players are the only side that has been willing to negotiate so far, they have submitted 3 (or more) completely different coutner-proposals, and the league has immediately shot them all down. How the heck is this the players fault???— DanGlesack
- Having paid $300 for a Winter Classic jersey, $25 for parking, more than $50 in refreshments for just my kid and me, ticket$...$$$I have ZERO sympathy for anyone involved. And ZERO understanding as to why the games can't be played while you figure it out.LOVE the GAME. HATE the LEAGUE. (HTML deleted)
- Darth Bettman and his evil empire continue their evil ways on their mission to completely destroy the world of hockey.— Mike Boryla
- The fact that talks are going to resume on Friday and NOT include the most important issue (How to split the revenue)is a huge slap in the face to fans. I guess there are more pressing issue to figure out first. Like what brand of toilet paper to use at all the arenas.
- PS. With all the money these players earn(ed) you think they'd start..... " A League of Their Own"
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