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Tuesday, January 13, 2009

 

I've got nothing against sports writers, commentators, radio guys, bloggers, chatters and even regular old fans trotting out tired cliches and sleepy metaphors as they try to travel the long weekly distance from Game A to Game B in the NFL, but I will have new-found respect for the writer who doesn't bring up the no-respect angle at some point of the journey.

That hasn't really been difficult here in Philadelphia. The Eagles haven't gone that route yet. There's no purpose to saying, "No one expected us to get here," when the logical response would be, "Of course they didn't. You couldn't beat the Cincinnati Bengals." The Eagles, to their credit, realize they had to re-earn their respect and, thanks to a very fortunate last day of the season and a pair of solid playoff wins, they have done so.

And anyway, heading into Sunday's game in lovely Glendale, Arizona, it's clear the Eagles can't beat the Cardinals at the we-get-no-respect game. The Cards are correct. Even after beating the Falcons and Panthers, they are still at least one interchange away from the Respect exit ramp.

Nevertheless, enough is enough. My friend Dan Bickley at the Arizona Republic had a column in Tuesday's paper that took the "no respect" deal to new levels. The Cardinals are upset because Brandon Jacobs of the Giants said the Eagles would win. They are upset because Deion Sanders didn't like the Cards. In Philly, we'd hold a parade if Deion didn't like the team.

Here, aside from noting quarterback Donovan McNabb's allusions to a lack of respect for all he has accomplished, we promise to stay away from the whole topic. At least until proven otherwise, McNabb is money this postseason, and nothing gets respect like money.

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By the way, if Jim Rice is a Hall of Fame player, I'm a ring-tailed lemur. His numbers were very good, maybe even great, but they didn't rise to the level of "special," which is what I always thought it should take to reach entry into the Hall of Fame. 

Posted by BOB FORD @ 5:13 PM  Permalink | 24 comments
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Posted 05:09 PM, 01/13/2009
esh
The Hall of Fame long ago became the Hall of the Very Good.
Posted 05:10 PM, 01/13/2009
ILUVPHILLYCITYOFLOSERS
ILUVPHILLYCITYOFWINNERS!!!!! Sir u are mistaken.....Jim Rice's numbers make it pretty clear to me that he is worthy..Over 13 full seasons or so Rice's average numbers 298 avg 97 runs 190 hits 30 doubles 30 hr's (which is like averaging at least 40-45 in this era) 638 ab's 6 3'bs 113 rbi's THAT'S 162 GAMES AVERAGES OVER THE COURSE OF 13 FULL SEASONS...ARE U SERIOUS????? THAT IS WHAT THE HOF IS ALL ABOUT
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Posted 05:27 PM, 01/13/2009
ILUVPHILLYCITYOFLOSERS
ILUVPHILLYCITYOFWINNERS!!!!! RICE CONT'D 8 TIME ALL STAR 1 MVP LED AL IN HR'S TWICE AND RBI'S TWICE, TOTAL BASES 4 TIMES, AND HITS ONCE HOW DO YOU ARGUE THOSE NUMBERS????
Posted 05:29 PM, 01/13/2009
duuuuude
You've already failed at not bringing up the "no respect" cliche by writing this article?
Posted 05:29 PM, 01/13/2009
duuuuude
You've already failed at not bringing up the "no respect" cliche by writing this article?
Posted 05:32 PM, 01/13/2009
toph314
Losing your final game will always be a disappointment. Though you have to also weigh the bonus of getting to cheer these extra week.
Posted 05:40 PM, 01/13/2009
southstreet
no. i was one of those folks who threw in thw towel on reid and McNabb, and i am glad they did not throw in the towel.
Posted 05:42 PM, 01/13/2009
LJL
This would be a poor season if they lose for several reasons. First, this improbable run has overshadowed the fact that for 2/3 of this season, this team was horribly inconsistent, and downright awful at times. Winning cures all ills, but if they lose because 1) they couldn't run the ball, or 2) McNabb has a Baltimore-like game, then everyone will realize that the problems that affected this team in late November were real, and more indicative of what this team is as opposed to the team we've watched over the past month. And do not lose sight of the fact that if not for the immense collapse of the Bucs, we would not even be having this debate.
Posted 05:43 PM, 01/13/2009
jim715
first, if they lose this game, the season would be a disappointment, only because they would be losing to Arizona, and not Carolina...the Bucs (and the Bears) got the eagles into the playoffs... the wins the last 2 weeks were great, but if you lose to a team that you handily beat, and lost their last regular season game, it would be a disappointment...it would also be their 3 time losing the nfc championship as a favored team, give them a 1-4 mark in the title game, and no super bowl wins for the reid-mcnabb era... by the way,Bob, in case you didnt notice, the baseball hall of fame stopped being a place for only special players a long time ago...the veterans committee, plus needing 1 inductee a year to have a ceremony and help the local economy assured that.. this is local blasphemy, but if richie ashburn is in, how can you complain about jim rice?
Posted 05:52 PM, 01/13/2009
bobbyhealey
Any year you do not win the Super Bowl is a disappointing year. The question is to what degree. We have been played by the Eagles and the national media for many years that we are sooooooo lucky to be in the playoffs and 5 title games. Once you settle for mediocrity and accept it then you foster more of it. A championship needs to be the goal every year and we should be upset when we do not win.
Posted 06:00 PM, 01/13/2009
Str8_AZ_Ballin
Majority of the people love reading about the underdog stories. Most movies are based one the rise of the underdog. Prime example, ROCKY. I'm sure you guys know about that story. In this story, we are the nobodies of the NFL. Even if our season ends with the NFC title game (which i'm sure you guys know all about), it's already a remarkable story for the oldest NFL franchise. Don't care what anybody else says about my team, come sunday, i will be there there, rootin for my cardinals. All the sports from the east never give the west any respect. So to me, there's nothing new. I wish your team well. Glad u also read the ARIZONA REPUBLIC.
Posted 06:03 PM, 01/13/2009
tjkellyjr
I have been an Eagles's fan since the 1950's. I , like many others, get frustrated by the Eagles less than stellar play. BUT, Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb have given us 10 YEARS of spectacular effort and results. No matter what, they also have done it with CLASS. Look at the history of this team as a whole, no one has done it better. I would love for them to win the title for the city and the fans but more importantly, for themselves. The good guys don't always finish last.
Posted 07:51 PM, 01/13/2009
Bob Ford
Welcome, all. This is going to be a free-form blog. You say what you want. I'll say what I want. No hard feelings. Stick with it. We're going to have some fun.
Posted 08:32 PM, 01/13/2009
eaglephanatic
Don't expect too much respect here. These people are crazy.
Posted 09:07 PM, 01/13/2009
phillychokesagain
Be honest - many were calling Philly the hottest team going into the playoffs. Save the "no respect" mantra for the team that really got no respect after spanking two "superior" teams by many "experts," which happens to be the AZ Cards. To those that lost money betting against the Cards, here's your chance to make up those losses - by taking AZ straight up. How the Iggles are favored in an opponent's rockin' stadium playing against a better offense and much improved defense is beyond me.
Posted 09:37 PM, 01/13/2009
KGKoons
Both teams get no respect from so many sports writers that one is often glad when any team they dis grounds it into their snooty noses. Out in SOCal, the Eagles are treated as phonies and there is always whining about why SoCal doesn't have a pro team. I write back: I get to see the Eagles usually at 10am out here so I am soooo glad LA has no team. Mostly, the scribes out here blast the fans for being boorish. It even covered the Phils when they were in the Series. The rant was, who would watch it? Well, fans like me here in SOCAL who are Phila. born will watch with great grace, favor, thankfulness when any Philly team is shown on TV and especially if they are in a world championship or division playoff. Frankly, the scribes can treat all Philly teams with no respect as long as the Philly teams stick it in their respective craws!
Posted 09:38 PM, 01/13/2009
mike l
I wouldn't know about spectacular effort and results. Reached NFC title game four times and looked bad on three of them. Did reach the SB, but Reid's lousy clcok management at the end of both halves ruined the team's chances. McNabb is a classy guy, but enough with the Woe is me attitude. He helped get Owens here, then couldn't take it when the fans sang "T O, T O, T O," instead of "McNabb, McNabb, McNabb." I, like many others, wonder what could have been if both Reid and McNabb had had different personalities.One not so arrogant, the other not so whiny.
Posted 09:46 PM, 01/13/2009
mike l
I believe the Cardinals are a more futile team than the Eagles. The Birds last won a title in 1960. The Cardinals last won in 1947, beating the Eagle, I think, in Chicago. Not only can't they win, they can't stay in one place: Chicago, St. Louis, Tempe. Only think I used to like about the Cards were that their uniforms differed home and away, unlike the other teams who just reverse the colors. Home was just a plain red jersey, ala Penn State. Away was a whte shirt with black sleeve stripes. Don't know why I have always liked them. Just one of those weird quirks. Liked the unis, couldn't stand the team. Now they look like some Dairy Queen cherry parfait.
Posted 12:19 AM, 01/14/2009
davetheherman
There is something about this defense that simply resonates energy. Numbers and history say that McNabb just handing the ball to Westbrook should be enough with that defense behind them. But it has been REALLY nice hearing Andy, Donovan, Dawkins, B. West, Bradley and J.J. continuously stating they are IN NO WAY looking past this Cardinals team. If I remember correctly, the Eagles were looking so far past the Bucs that last game at the Vet, they all showed up in Bahama shorts and wife beaters. Not this time!!!
Posted 12:27 AM, 01/14/2009
Will T.
Bob, Good post here I like your style! I think you can boil it down to three approaches an athlete takes before a any big sporting event in any sport 1- "The Ali" (you trash talk your opponent endlessly and talk about how you are unbeatable to the point where they start believing they can't win. 2- "The Lou Holtz" (I don't know if we should even be on the same field approach--I guess this was supposed to make the opponent feel sorry for you, thus they didn't play as as hard?) 3-"The Rodney Dangerfield" (No respect, no respect i tell ya "my wife wanted to make love in the back seat of the car....she wanted me to drive) The Rodney Dangerfield is by far the most used and abused by athletes in all sports, if the underdog wins, the no respect pre-game talk is always followed by "we shocked the world" post game boast.
Posted 03:19 AM, 01/14/2009
eagles7777
Bob--In other words, you f---ed up when you said Rice didn't deserve entry into the HOF. Come one, you're big enough to admit it. I'd respect you a hell of a lot more if you admitted you made a mistake.
Posted 08:54 AM, 01/14/2009
JamesJ
I went to my first Eagles game in 1962 (Franklin Field). Its Philly's year The Moon is in the seventh house Jupiter has aligned with Mars.
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Bob Ford has been writing about Philadelphia sports since 1981, and is still trying to figure it all out. A former beat writer covering the Phillies and the 76ers, Ford became a general sports columnist for the Inquirer in 2003, following in and occasionally falling in the deep footsteps of Bill Lyon, Frank Dolson and many distinguished others. He comes to the Philly.com blogosphere after award-winning success as designer/editor of the fabulous Pen & Pencil Club softball blog. Likes: Palestra, inside-the-park home runs, sunny days. Dislikes: phony people, cloudy days, rewrites.