Full Transcript: Eagles coach Chip Kelly talks hazing in the NFL
Eagles coach Chip Kelly met with reporters on Thursday, and among other things, he talked about hazing in the NFL, in light of the recent events surrounding Dolphins offensive linemen Richie Incognito and Jonathan Martin.
I think with all our guys they're all members of the same team, and I think everybody should be treated the same way. I think some of our young offensive linemen make sure that there's water stocked in the offensive line meeting room. But everybody's a professional. Everybody's on the same team. We don't have a rookie show. We don't do those things. We're all on the same side. It's us against the other 31 teams in this league, and I think the quicker you can get those guys indoctrinated in that you are a member of the Philadelphia Eagles now, and there is a way we expect everybody to act. So that's how we approached it here.
Here's the full transcript of Kelly's session with the media:
Q. So who do you have tonight?
COACH KELLY: What's that?
Q. So who do you got tonight?
COACH KELLY: Washington‑Vikings? I have Oregon in every game.
Q. Is Nick Foles starting?
COACH KELLY: What's that?
Q. Is Nick starting Sunday?
COACH KELLY: Practice today.
Q. Are you at the point where you're ready ‑‑
COACH KELLY: Nope.
Q. Is Mike Vick still limited?
COACH KELLY: Yeah, Mike is limited. If it goes the same way, somebody gets hurt Friday, we have to adjust it.
Q. I think the first time Mike had the injury you were able to do a little more with him each day?
COACH KELLY: He's progressing. He's progressing. We'll see if can he get a little bit more in. But he didn't take any reps yesterday. Earlier when it happened, he got some reps in 7 on 7. Right now he's just going on individual drills.
Q. Is Matt Barkley getting any more reps?
COACH KELLY: Matt's getting the two reps, Nick's getting the one reps.
Q. By saying you have to adjust it, do you have to put G.J. Kinne on the roster?
COACH KELLY: No, I didn't say that. I was talking about reps.
Q. You're still limited. What would you have to adjust?
COACH KELLY: If what?
Q. If Vick were still limited, what would you have to adjust?
COACH KELLY: If can he go and he can get reps, we'll have to adjust it. We'll see how he goes when he runs around today. But before when Mike was injured, we got him in on 7 on 7 and things like that. But he hasn't taken any reps on 7 on 7 this week.
Q. Is Vick getting better? Is that hammy getting better?
COACH KELLY: I think it is. But it's one of those things where every day you kind of get an update on where he is. I know he's working extremely hard at it and doing everything he possibly can. But he hasn't taken any reps.
Q. Does the nature of the injury make you want to be careful because it is something that he's injured before and hamstrings are tricky like that?
COACH KELLY: Yeah, a little bit. He came back before and injured it again shortly in the first quarter against the Cowboys. So I think we've got to make sure you can't rush him back. You have to make sure he's healthy when it goes. It doesn't help anybody. If Mike goes out there, he can only play a limited amount of snaps because we're back where we started.
Q. Chip, the issue of hazing has been a relevant topic lately. What are your thoughts on what is acceptable, what's not and what you expect out of your players when you're the coach?
COACH KELLY: I think with all our guys they're all members of the same team, and I think everybody should be treated the same way. I think some of our young offensive linemen make sure that there's water stocked in the offensive line meeting room. But everybody's a professional. Everybody's on the same team. We don't have a rookie show. We don't do those things. We're all on the same side. It's us against the other 31 teams in this league, and I think the quicker you can get those guys indoctrinated in that you are a member of the Philadelphia Eagles now, and there is a way we expect everybody to act. So that's how we approached it here.
Q. Is that something you addressed with the team in the spring or had to address?
COACH KELLY: We addressed it when we brought the rookies in here and told them that everybody's the same whether you're a ten‑year guy or a rookie. That's part of the deal. Part of our job, I think, is to make sure that the young guys get acclimated. What was it like when you were a rookie? It's hard. Even though they are professionals, there is still a learning curve. Just like being a freshman in college again or freshman in high school again. They can all go back to think about what it was like when they were younger. It's a difficult transition for anybody.
Q. Has that philosophy in general changed? You were a player once, a young coach, assistant coach. Have you seen a change in that philosophy?
COACH KELLY: Yeah, I think societal views of all that stuff have changed over the years.
Q. You once said that unless you were ‑‑
COACH KELLY: Do you study old things because you've asked all those questions a lot. Do you go back and look at old transcripts? Just wondering. I once said what?
Q. You once said that unless you were stag, you were basically borrowing from everyone else. I wonder in terms?
COACH KELLY: If I was stag?
Q. You said unless you're Amos Alonzo Stagg?
COACH KELLY: Are you going to a Sadie Hawkins dance or something? I had no idea where you were going on that one (laughing).
Q. In terms of your run‑pass option plays, how did you start calling them together and when did you start doing that, and why did you think it would work at this level?
COACH KELLY: I think it works at every level. Just all you're doing is, again, we're not doing anything new. Everybody else, the Detroit Lions, if there is an extra guy in the box, Matt Stafford is going to throw the smoke out to number one. Eli Manning did it twice to us on blitzes to try to run the power play. We were throwing out to the right side, and he throws the ball to the receiver out there, so it's not anything new. It's just you're trying to make a bad play not be as bad. Can we get something out of it? You're obviously not going to throw a touchdown or a home run, but you're going to put yourself in an advantageous situation where you can gain positive yards. It's something that's gone on in this league for a long time. So it's not us having quick throws out of things that we're doing isn't a new concept.
Q. What about the conclusion of the run though?
COACH KELLY: That's what I'm talking about. There are a lot of teams in the NFL if they have a run‑up. Aaron Rodgers is as good as it is. Brett Favre used to do it all the time. If there's a ball here, and he throws the ball over there, there are only two guys on the same page, the quarterback and receiver. But it's usually built into the call, so it's going on for a long time.
Q. If you look at Ced Thornton, is he a guy you knew about before you got here, and at what point did you realize he'd be a contributing player on the defense?
COACH KELLY: I didn't know about many guys on this roster before I got here. I didn't follow anybody in the NFL. I mean, I knew who LeSean [McCoy] was and Mike [Vick] and Nick [Foles] because [of] some of the guys in our league. But I think when you finally start to turn on the tape, we felt as a staff when you turn the tape on, that this guy could be a good football player because of his effort. His ability to run and make contact with the ball. Then when you get a chance to start working with him, you thought, hey, this guy could be a good player here. So when we started studying film, Ced started to jump out at us in terms of his effort. That is the one thing on tape that really if you asked what was my first comment watching the defensive tape and specifically Ced, was how hard he played last year. So that was obviously something you get excited about when you get a chance to start working with him.
Q. What is the status on Thornton’s health?
COACH KELLY: He's good. He should go today full. So we'll see, if he gets all the way through. But I anticipate him going through all the practice today.
Q. How about Bradley Fletcher?
COACH KELLY: He's the same thing. He was limited yesterday, we'll just see if that gets ramped up this week, I mean, today.
Q. You don't know for sure?
COACH KELLY: I don't know for sure about anybody.
Q. Well, with Ced you said you were pretty sure?
COACH KELLY: Ced, we'll monitor today. But he's not out.
Q. You touched on this Tuesday. It was always a knock on Nick Foles that he couldn't throw the deep ball last year as a young quarterback. What have you seen from him? Obviously he hit a bunch of them the other night. What have you seen from him as far as his timing, arm strength and all those things?
COACH KELLY: That's what I've seen since I got here. The first day he started throwing balls for us. So that's never been a concern of mine. I don't know where that came from or why that came. I think he's got great touch, great accuracy. He's a big guy, got a big arm. We've always believed he can make those throws and I've seen him make them in practice all the time since we got here on day one. It's not like all of a sudden he started throwing the ball deeper and it was like, wow, look what Nick can do. We've seen it as a coaching staff. He can rip it. He's a big, strong dude and can let the ball sail for a good distance.
Q. Given the fact the Packers have played so much nickel, are you surprised they're so good against the run?
COACH KELLY: No. Again, I think it's a match‑up thing because who are they playing against? You know what I mean? When they got into some fist fight games and got into base defense, they've got some pretty good sized guys. Obviously, Clay [Matthews] has been out a little bit, and [Nick] Perry has been out. But when you bring in Mike Neal who is a 290‑pound outside linebacker, and put him next to [B.J.] Raji, next to [Ryan] Pickett, and [Johnny] Jolly with A.J. Hawk in the middle and [Brad Jones] Jonesy, they've got a pretty formidable group. It's almost like people are just trying to figure out what to do to not. But I think it starts with that defensive line because even if they're in nickel, there are a lot of times they have Pickett and Raji in there, and they can eat up a lot of blockers. They're really skilled. They use their hands extremely well, and they protect their linebackers and let their linebackers run side‑to‑side. Because usually Raji and Pickett and if Jolly is in there, they're tying up more than one blocker.
Q. Do they change things up schematically if Clay is playing?
COACH KELLY: I don't think they've changed. You obviously have to know where Clay is just because of how dynamic he is. But I don't think the scheme changes. They've rolled a few guys through there just because they've had some injuries. [Andy] Mulumba got hurt. They've had a couple of different outside linebackers in there. But I don't think ‑‑ actually, Perry's numbers jumped a little bit when Clay was out. So both those guys may be back, we don't know. But their scheme doesn't change dramatically with him in there. But you have to know when he's in there where he is at all times.
Q. How much is the finger issue for Jason Peters affected him in blocking?
COACH KELLY: Until you just mentioned it, I don't see that from him in terms of punching and things like that. I don't think that's an issue. You can ask him.
Q. How would you evaluate the job Peters has done as a run-blocker this year?
COACH KELLY: I think Jason's done a really good job. He's probably been our best, to be honest with you. I think we need to be more consistent across the board at every position up front. But I think he would be our best so far.
Q. About the 12 personnel, what is the balance between doing it based on match‑up and just finding more ways to get Zach Ertz on the field?
COACH KELLY: It's all based on match‑ups. It's not based on getting one guy in. We're not calling plays saying let's get the ball to here. You've got to have weapons at every position. I think in this league people are good enough to take one guy away. So you've got to make sure that what we've always tried to do is make sure you cover everybody. It's all about right now about match‑ups. There is no one right now that says, hey, we need to get the ball to that guy, because we have playmakers at different positions. If you're going to lean toward D Jack [DeSean Jackson] a little bit, you leave Riley [Cooper] alone. He's proven he can hurt you. If you're going to try to stay with the wide receivers, I think our tight ends can hurt you. That's what we're really striving for is balance. We're not trying to individually force the ball to one guy. I think we have the weapons at all different spots, whether at running back, wide receiver, tight end to take care of that stuff.
Q. How much does your assistant's background with Packers QB Seneca Wallace help especially because there is limited tape on him right now?
COACH KELLY: I answered it yesterday. I don't think there is much. They can tell you what his skill set is and all of that. But it's not that offense. It's usually I think if your background, if a guy came from, hey, I coached there had last year and this is what [Packers head coach] Mike [McCarthy] likes to call in these situations, I think that helps. But a lot of guys have been on different teams in different leagues. They can tell you what he can ‑‑ how he likes to deliver the ball and some of those things. But you don't know what positions they're putting them in as a coaching staff.
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