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Thursday, July 2, 2009

ESPN The Magazine is out with its annual 'Ultimate Standings' for every professional franchise.

The rankings measure how much "franchises give back to the fans in exchange for all the time, money and emotion the fans invest in them."

There are eight major categories: Bang for the Buck, Fan Relations, Ownership, Affordability, Stadium Experience, Players, Coaching and Titles.

The Birds come in at No. 12 in the NFL and No. 44 overall in all four major sports.

Here's the writeup:

Thanks to Cole Hamels & Co., Philly no longer anticipates losing. Great for Philly; not so much for the Eagles. Even after eviscerating the Cowboys 44-6 to make the playoffs, then sending the Vikes and Giants home, the Eagles still didn't get as much brotherly love (up 22 places) as you might have expected. Sheesh, tough crowd. What gives? Well, for one, the Linc has grown stale. "When it opened there were big open concourses near each end zone that were a great place to hang out, have a drink, commune with fans and still have a great view," says JasonB of Bleeding Green Nation. "However, two years ago they started selling standing room only tickets. Now the concourse is mobbed because people camp out there for a good spot the moment the stadium opens." Not stale are the crab fries ($7), which are still are a must. And bird fans find the sight lines of the city and field much more impressive than Andy Reid's decisionmaking (cough, benching McNabb, cough). Plain and simple: The way to please these fans is to win, damn it. Because we now know ties (13-13 against the Bengals) don't cut it.up.

The Eagles scored best in the Players, Bang for the Buck and Fan Relations categories. Their worst rankings were in Affordability and Stadium Experience.

There's a difference between Bang for the Buck and Affordability, in case you were confused. The first category is based on wins over the past three years per revenues directly from fans.

In other words, how much on-the-field success are fans seeing, compared to how much money they're putting into the product.

Affordability relates to price of tickets, parking and concessions.

The Phillies predictably ranked ahead of the Eagles at No. 24. The Flyers came in at No. 54, and the Sixers at 99.

The category that was most interesting was Stadium Experience, defined as "quality of arena and game-day promotions as well as friendliness of environment."

Per the rankings, there are 14 better stadium experiences than going to a game at the Linc.

Because of our weekly online chats, I didn't get to attend any home games last year for the first time since the stadium opened. But I always thought the Linc provided a solid stadium atmosphere. Granted, it's not as rowdy or raucous as the Vet, where I pretty much learned the game of football. But most games I've attended over the years at the Linc have felt like a party. Playoff games and prime-time matchups reach a level of their own.

So I'm interested to hear what you think about the overall rankings, but specifically the stadium experience. Do you agree with Jason of BGN that the atmosphere has declined over the last two years? Or do you think it's definitely better than 14th in the NFL?

We'll re-publish some of the better comments in a future post.

Posted by Sheil Kapadia @ 8:13 AM  Permalink | 31 comments
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Posted 02:22 PM, 07/03/2009
disgruntled fan
The eagles even ranked for 'fan relations'? Who are these people?
Posted 12:18 AM, 07/03/2009
fred13
85% of the people who post comments on this site are a bunch of stupid fools. Now we know why everyone considers Philly fans to be so bad.
Posted 04:28 PM, 07/02/2009
LJL
The Eagles are champions at making money. Winning championships, not so much.
Posted 03:49 PM, 07/02/2009
Greg S
hey rich, orlando fans may be bad, but aside from 3 or 4 nba teams, its like that in every arena. i love how the mcnabb bashers and dawkins slurpers come out of nowhere to talk trash, wasnt the question about the stadium? the linc is good, nicer than the vet, but the vet was a better exprience. i have been to meadowlands, miami, tampa, cleveland, green bay, cincinnati, and atlanta. i'd say the linc ranks only behind the lambeau, though the midwest folks are so nice, they have passion, but they appologize for winning, they are too nice out there.
Posted 02:41 PM, 07/02/2009
Dierte
wokmaster go cuddle up with your boy Mr. Miagi and stick to ping pong, or karate
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Posted 02:09 PM, 07/02/2009
Richard Saunders
Orlando Magic are #18. I go to Magic games all the time. Until they made the playoffs you could spread out and have a picnic in the stands, possibly take a nap, it was so dead.
Posted 02:01 PM, 07/02/2009
wokmaster
No Capt a moron is someone who keeps doing the same things (in your case drinking the kool aid) and expecting a different result. I'll be here to laugh at you when your season is over.
Posted 01:48 PM, 07/02/2009
tpizza
The guys who wanted the Eagles to keep Dawk are the same guys that wanted the Phils to keep Burrell. Dawk was great but I've seen enough replays of last years games where he was 2 steps behind the receiver in the end zone to make me sure it was time to turn the page. His best days are long over. Time to cut the cord people.
Posted 01:46 PM, 07/02/2009
CaptAwesome
Apparently the "Moron Beacon" was lit and voytas and wokmaster answered the call.
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Posted 12:26 PM, 07/02/2009
diggity
The Phillies are obviously going to rank higher than the Eagles following a World Series Championship. If they did this article last year at this time it would've been the opposite. Even with Dawk leaving I rank this as a successfull offseason and am pumped for September. Go Birds & Phils.
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Posted 11:57 AM, 07/02/2009
Dierte
Egg rolls Wokmaster, egg rolls...
Posted 11:34 AM, 07/02/2009
wokmaster
Sorry I ruined your life with that comment dirty and sfbeagle. Like I said, the truth hurts sometimes.
Posted 10:15 AM, 07/02/2009
NovaWildcats36
these supposed "ultimate rankings" are horse manure. the los angeles angles are ranked as the best franchise in all of sports, and the tampa bay rays, the TAMPA BAY RAYS, who couldn't sell out their ALCS playoff games against the red sox, are ranked as the 3rd best baseball franchise. that's a legitimate ranking list if i ever saw one
Posted 10:02 AM, 07/02/2009
craig123
Voytas, I'm so glad you straighten out the Dawkins deal. If you had not been at the table during the negotiations and let us know that Dawkins would have signed for "much less" I would have though Dawkins (unlike most pro athletes) was in this for the cash. Yes, the Eagles made all the wrong moves this off season. How stupid could they be to replace starters, in there mid 30’s? Hey, that’s the prime of life. Now they are stuck with a bunch of rookie nobody’s. And those other new guys…who ever heard of any of them. Yep, you’re right on Voytas, “leadership”, that’s what has been missing. Ya know, there’s still a chance to sign Bret Favre, what do you think?
Posted 09:56 AM, 07/02/2009
sfeagle
Voytas, wokasster, Phillies... = Loser d-bags
Posted 09:48 AM, 07/02/2009
Dierte
I know your life is pathetic and you have to have an alter ego on Philly.com posting threads, but come on man, get a hobby. Did Joe Banner and Andy Reid pick on you as a kid? Were you the fat kid in school that got picked on? Man, I feel sorry for you that your such a miserable person. GO EAGLES!!!
Posted 09:44 AM, 07/02/2009
wokmaster
Dierte, it's ok, I know the truth hurts. The one number none of the apologists can slant. Zero.
Posted 09:34 AM, 07/02/2009
Dierte
Are you going to beat me up over the internet Voytas? Cause your tough guy persona on the here really has me scared of what you may do to me...
Posted 09:05 AM, 07/02/2009
montymiller
the phillies won guy is a PIKER...plain and simple...
Posted 09:05 AM, 07/02/2009
montymiller
the phillies won guy is a PIKER...plain and simple...
Posted 09:05 AM, 07/02/2009
montymiller
the phillies won guy is a PIKER...plain and simple...
Posted 08:45 AM, 07/02/2009
LF
"phillies won the world series" guy.....take a leap loser. We love all the teams in Philly, so don't associate yourself with the real sports fans in this town....you are a loser.
Posted 08:21 AM, 07/02/2009
Dierte
Earl J - letting Dawkins go for the money the Broncos gave him was one of the better decisions the front office has man. Get over your man crush and understand it makes our team better. Wokmaster - FRIED RICE PREASE!! TANK YOU!
Posted 08:20 AM, 07/02/2009
CVN65
Earl J-it's a business. We know it, the players know it and so do the owners. The Birds just go out of their way to prove it to us over and over again. The owners have never understood our devotion nor have they realized that they are only temporary while the fans are forever.
Posted 07:33 AM, 07/02/2009
Earl J
Letting Dawkins walk is an example of why the Phils smoked the Birds (ownership).
Posted 11:38 PM, 07/01/2009
wokmaster
Tied for last in the NFL in Superbowls.
Posted 09:57 PM, 07/01/2009
PhillyTrue
#44 on the charts, #1 in our hearts.
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