Eagles collapse into the bye
The Eagles seem incapable of putting anybody away early. Maybe that will change, maybe some day, but as the evidence mounts, it does not seem likely. They are a good offense, but mistake-prone. They are a stingy defense, but make few big plays. The result is agony. Get used to it -- and double up on the prescription for nitroglycerin pills during the bye week.
Eagles collapse into the bye
Rich Hofmann, Daily News Sports Columnist
The Eagles seem incapable of putting anybody away early. Maybe that will change, maybe some day, but as the evidence mounts, it does not seem likely. They are a good offense, but mistake-prone. They are a stingy defense, but make few big plays. The result is agony. Get used to it -- and double up on the prescription for nitroglycerin pills during the bye week.
The Eagles are 3-3 after Sunday's 26-23 overtime loss to the Detroit Lions, and about 90 percent of the day was spent sweating blood. They trailed early, pulled ahead, but kept giving back opportunities to put the game away. And in the end, after the Eagles could do nothing with the first possession of overtime, the Lions won it when Jason Hanson kicked a 45-yard field goal after 4 minutes of the extra period.
The boo s were directed at both Eagles coach Andy Reid and quarterback Micahel Vick as they exited the field about a minute apart. It was a badly-played game by both teams, and it was a bad result for the home team, and now the Eagles have to let it lay there for 2 weeks.
The first half left everyone asking two questions as the Eagles and Lions ran off the field: 1) How are the Eagles leading by 7-6 and, 2) How is Vick able to run at this point, no less walk. Fox was reporting the gruesome numbers: 10 hurries, 10 hits, 8 knockdowns. It might have been the worst one-half beating Vick has taken all season, which is saying something.
Lions linebacker Stephen Tullo ch was a particular nemesi s. After one vicious Tulloch hit in the second quarter, a couple of plays before his 2-yard touchdown pass to LeSean McCoy, Vick was att ended to on the sideline by team medical personnel. But he came back out. He always seems to come back out.
The second half witnessed what has become a common phenomenon for this Eagles team: much better offensive line play in the third and fourth quarters than in the first and second. It was an afternoon where the Eagles could never really get their running game going, but in pass protection, things tightened up considerably.
And so, with that stability, the offense was able to get a rhythm going in the third quarter, finally. They moved the ball, and Vick hung in the pocket nicely, and the quarterback hits went way down -- but the Eagles could not score touchdowns.
On two drives, tight end Brent Celek -- who got the heck beat out of him, as he does most weeks -- dropped one catchable touchdown pass and had another touchdown catch nullified because he was ruled to have committed offensive pass interference by shoving off the defender.
The Eagles settled for Alex Henery field goals instead -- of 26 and 32 yards -- and then Henery added a 49 field goal early in the fourth quarter to give the Eagles a 16-6 lead.
The Lions came back and scored their first touchdown of the game, with 10:30 remaining in the fourth quarter, on a 1-yard run by quarterback Matthew Stafford. That made it 16-13, but it was even worse for the Eagles because defensive tackle Fletcher Cox was ejected from the game after d raw ing a personal foul penalty on the extra point.
And then it got really interesting.
On the first play of the next drive, Vick had DeSean Jackson open on a deep post pattern, but he under-threw the pass and it was intercepted by the Lions’ Chris Houston. Suddenly, the Lions had the ball on their 34-yard line with 10:21 to play. But the Eagles held, the Lions punted, and then -- finally -- the Eagles broke it open with 5:18 left to play when they caught the Lions in a big blitz and Vick hit wide receiver Jeremy Maclin with a 70-yard touchdown pass.
Did I say broke it open? What I meant to say was, the Eagles gave themselves a few seconds of breathing room before the Lions marched right back down the field and scored on a 17-yard touchdown pass to Nate Burleson. That cut the Eagles’ lead to 23-20 with 3:32 remaining.
Oh, and then the Eagles went 1-2-3 punt.
You know, just to make it even more interesting.
Again, the Lions marched. A great catch by Calvin Johnson, originally ruled an imcompletion but overturned by replay, got the Lions to the 25-yard line with 1:12 remaining. The Lions ran on the next two plays and got it to the Eagles' 9-yard line. But then safety Colt Anderson, playing in place of the injured Nate Allen (hamstring), was called for pass interference in the end zone.
On first-and-goal from the 1, though, the Lions threw two incompletions and settled for a 19-yard field goal to send the game to overtime.
All of which set up the ending.
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3rd straight game no sacks. Vick 5 games with multiple turnovers. Calvin Johnson clutch when needed Asomugha and Rodgers-Cromartie not. Vick lack of care of the football and now the skills have eroded him so now it's time for a change. Time to look at McNabb to give us a chance this season with 2 weeks he can be ready after the bye.— lonewolf 10- To both of you fools. Vick has put his defense in position to win the game twice now, and the scheme has been absolutely awful. We've been good in the first three quarters, but we're two giants missed field goals away from being 2-4, because when it counts most, quarterbacks in this league know what we are going to do and pick us apart. Vick's two picks today really didn't hurt us, in fact after the one on the deep ball thrown to Jackson, he came back and scored a touchdown and should've put the game out of reach. Then Juan's defense fell apart. It was also clearly missing Allen. But as for Vick, are ya kidding? He was 28-46 for 300+ yards you ignorant fool. Celek catches the one touchdown and doesn't get called for the B.S offensive pass interference and Vick's line is 30-46, for 300+ yards, 4 touchdowns and 2 INTs. Vick won the game for this team despite having literally 0 blocking. A combination of the Juan and Marty's play calling/ and the defenses lack of ability to get a stop late in games in what lost us this game, not Michael Vick.
— roseyx0129 - You should learn to read before calling anyone a fool. I'm not blaming Vick. He's made some critical mistakes, but he's brought us back each and every time. That's all I can ask.
Can I blame Celek for dropping a sure TD or for negating another because of a pass interference? No.
There are a million things that "could have" changed the outcome. The bottom line is the defense lost a 10-point lead twice in one game. That's where the game was lost. - roseyx0129, Don't be such a tool. Vick has 100% blame for this loss. NO ONE discusses how much time Vick kept his own D ON the field in the crunch when the Eagles O should have been working the clock. Sure we didn't run enough. But it sure didn't work when we did either. Vick CANNOT throw that last pick to a WIDE OPEN DJax at a clutch performance and tell us that HE put the team in a position to win the game. Why doesn't MM get any credit for that. NO ONE mentions the 3 and out in the last 3 min of the game, when we could least afford it. I new something bad was coming early in the 4th wuarter. The only thing this team can be counted on is to find a way to lose each game. This team DESERVES to be 0-6. And you can check my timeline by clicking on my name. I'm one of Mike Vick's biggest apologist on this site. No longer can I sit by and pass blame elsewhere. Vick needs to sit. It's absolutely apparent at this point. — papabear702
- You are an idiot bear. Vick is 100 percent to blame, but you failed to mention how the defense collapsed and how celek dropped a crucial td. Man, it's one thing to dislike Vick, but to say it is totally his fault just shows how dumb you are. — Lpboys
- NO MORE KOOL AID! THIS TEAM IS GARBAGE!! SIT VICK NOW!!! — papabear702
- Who is surprised at this outcome? 3-3. They have yet to play well. They are the second lowest scoring team in the league. They are turning the ball over too often.
They escaped Cleveland. The Ravens were robbed. The Giants missed a field goal to win the game. What adjustments has this team made? McCoy rushed 14 times. Vick has 30 fumbles in his last 30 games. (He only lost 12, but still...) Jackson and Maclin are underperforming this year. Where are the sacks?
This team is SEVERAL playmakers away from winning anything. This team is unable to play consistently or getting on a roll. Forget about a balanced offense. Forget about getting new linebackers in here. Vick and Reid are not capable of performing at an elite level.
Don't worry, though. Kurt Coleman will celebrate an average play.
How long will we cheer for this average team? How long will we attend the games and pretend we're a few bounces of the ball away from winning the Super Bowl?
Time's yours, boys and girls. Time's yours.— rubicon24 - This comment has been deleted.— Dew Schbag
- Fri, Oct. 5, 2012, 12:45 AM | 17 comments |
Marcus Hayes: Vick relying on defense to help Eagles win games
Ty Detmer and Jeff Garcia, bless their hearts, knew it from birth.
Quarterbacks rarely win games. Often, and much more easily, they lose them.
Michael Vick, finally, is learning this.
Never before has there been a weapon like Vick. Even now, at 32, no one combines arm strength and foot speed and elusiveness. Sorry, Donovan, and Randall, and Fran Tarkenton and Steve Young.
None of them was able to win anything by himself. Each of them benefited from an outstanding defense.
Vick now has an outstanding defense. And he is letting the defense win the games. - 5-5 won't save Reid's hide.
For the 2nd week in a row, the defense blows a 4th-quarter lead.
Reid's play calling not only get his QB killed, but loses the game.— Lonewolf11 - Beleive it
— phillyaz - Fire the entire coaching staff now and get a head start on next year.— colorado_al
- And hire who? — wordsword
- I don't believe what I just saw— stoky
- 5-5 won't save Reid's hide.
The defense blows a 4th quarter lead for two consecutive weeks.
Reid's play-calling not only gets his QB killed, but also loses the game.— Lonewolf11 - Blow this team up. They suck.— rwilson065
- To expect anything different at this point is silly. The QB, the coaches - they are who they are. DNA.— EaglesWest
- Now will you idots get rid of Reid and Vick! They cause that team to become terribale! Loose to the Lions! You really think they can beat good teams when they can't beat the Lions, Cards, and almost to the Browns!— lost eagle
- Outcoached again and this time by the lowly Detroit Lions! Quick, play the standard "We gotta do a better job with that" post game tape! I think 8 and 8 seems optimistic at this point. At least Arrogant Andy will be gone next season!— cooperhawk
- Reid's two big decisions, Juan and Vick, will cost him his job. And as Reid always correctly states..."Its on me"— Kioto
- I get your point, having been a "Fire Andy advocate for many years. But I disagree that this is on Andy. He's has been the same imept coach for a long time. This is on Lurie.
— mkat33 - "inept coach for a long time . . ."
. . . and winningest coach in franchise history.
. . . and a record that 70% of NFL cities would love to have over the last 10 years.
Yeah, I know . . . "but he hasn't won a SB!"
And just how many coaches have?
— wordsword - Wordsword,
Apparently, you are content with just being competitive, and "winning more games in the last X years than any other team". There is NO TROPHY for that! After a certain amount of Winning, the expectation of fans (and hopefully of Lurie, although I'm not convinced he is) is to IMPROVE over time, and continually GET TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
Reid has not done that. He plays lip service after every loss with "gotta do a better job", but he does the same stupid things each game.
Time to clean house! You also probably will say "would you rather have Kotite?" as that is the only other alternative. Think outside the box, man! Expect more from your team and coach, instead of settling for, and defending, the same old nonsense.
Reid is probably the laughingstock among other teams - so predictable that it's easy to game-plan against him.
— jman - Complete fiasco!
- Their next six games are against Atlanta, New Orleans, Dallas, Washington and Dallas. If they don't win at least four of those games -- goodbye Vick and Reid. The Eagles continue to be over-rated and everyone seems to believe it!— Ron T
- NONE of those games is a gimme including the Washington game. The Redskins have improved while the Eagles have only gotten worse. And they've been consistently scoring in the high double digits. The Eagles, I'm afraid, will be lucky to come out of that series 1-3 and I'm not terribly sure where they're going to get the 1 from. There's no reason to expect a dramatic turnaround with this team. — essell
- CG25, I bow to your football knowledge. This Andy Reid led team is pathetic beyond any description. Andy Reid HAS to make the change at QB in order to save this team, or we are completely screwed. I don't even think Andy can save his season at this point, as he is clearly going to ride Vick until it's far to late. Such a shame. Will continue to watch this team only to watch the unraveling of this team be completed. Mike Vick is clearly going to cost this team EVERYTHING they are working for. He cannot sustain drives when he needs to, continues to turn the ball over at an extremely alarming rate, but for whatever reason he is being allowed a chance that he quite frankly has NEVER earned. This madness needs to stop. Unfortunately, it definitely won't.— papabear702
- This team ought to be ashamed of themselves after that display. Beginning of the end for Andy.
— NEP2311 - How many turnovers does it take to get benched?— atb124
- the falcons? seriously? proof read please. be a newspaper.— jb99
- 1st time since 1983 that our defense has gone 3 games without a sack.
5-5 won't save Reid's hide.
For the 2nd week in a row, the defense blows a 4th-quarter lead.
Reid's play calling not only get his QB killed, but loses the game.— Lonewolf11 - What happened to the Babin sack machine?
Putz is probably too busy being surly toward the fans, instead of doing his JOB competently.— jman - What part of 2 interceptions and a fumble is "learing to protect the football"?
The seasons over..this is not a SB competitive team.. heck, it's not even an average competitive team.
Reid, Marty Castillo and April are gone.
Foles should get his experience for next year..
Let's only hope all of that starts the 1st game after the bye week.— dedhed - Hopefully they keep losing so they can clean house...that means you too howie— 1stamendment
- 1st time since 1983 that our defense has gone 3 games without a sack.
5-5 won't save Reid's hide.
For the 2nd week in a row, the defense blows a 4th-quarter lead.
Reid's play calling not only get his QB killed, but loses the game.— Lonewolf11 - the coaching staff is garbage. MM, JC Bobby April straight garbage. AR is responsible for these idiots. does Coleman work for free, hows is he even is the NFL. The Oline just sucks period end of story. weknew going into the season and AR did nothing weak , quick guys will always be handle by big strong players...pure garbage of a team.
- Fumbelina Vick. Who else? Is Reid getting fired this week, Lurie?
This team has no chance. Despite, Vick's dynasty team and Vince Young's dream team. They are still a nightmare team. Loser's like the rest of the cities teams.— eaglesman1 - What part of not good enough does Jeffrey Lurie not understand?— bentlip
- Why don't the Eagles fire Reid at the break!
— Fan74 - This team is maddening. Andy and Vick need to go. Enough already please.— sore richard
Don't blame Vick. The defense lost another fourth quarter lead.— CCRichards- This loss hurt bruh— elijah29
- Charlie Manuel called Andy Reid...a .500 record is perfectly acceptable in this town. The media and fans will even shout down those who ask why you haven't been fired.— Repubrebirth
- A really bad game. Offensive decision-making the worst ever. Times yours.— NewMick314
- the team is good, lots of talent but the coaching is really poor and i mean really poor..... Castillo must go, this guy cant make adjustments and your seeing last year all over again. As far as the offense is concerned, Vick needs to take a seat and the Kid will be able to move the ball with the rest of the guys we have..... Vick cannot read a defense at all. The wide nine works good against us but not good for us..... again poor poor coaching. I thought we lost the game as soon as we couldnt convert our last drive of regulation because that D cant stop anyone right now.— pr0f3ss0r
- Pathetic loss...D line has lost it's n--s.Time for Lurie to begin the new coach search.Reid and Vick are done.— greenbloodVAEagle
- Reid keeps saying he's got to do a better job. When is this going to happen???? What is his plan??? Stick a fork in this porker... He's over done!! Close the oven door and put the setting on clean.— 4friedchickensandacoke
- It amazes me that for some reason, some fans think the Phillies are as bad as The Eagles. The Phillies are a very good team & they have won a recent World Series, & The Eagles have won....nothing. Zilch. I also like baseball better than football, & I'm happy for that. At least my team can win.— Philsfan56
- The Eagles cannot Run Block, cannot Pass Block, cannot play Defense, and Andy Reid has no concept of time management....so the answer according to Lonewolf10 is to change the QB!! Ridiculous. THEY HAD A 10 POINT LEAD WITH 3 MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME AND LOST!!!! HOW IS THAT VICK'S FAULT???!!!— Minnesota VICKings
- 14 handoff? That's it? I don't care if McCoy only averaged 1.6 yards per carry. A team has to stick with the run.— mkat33
This team - particularly the coaching staff - need to go soak their heads for the next 2 weeks.
Time's yours..- Still love this dynasty. Dynasty of Doom that is....— bmcw
- Dynasty or DieNasty?
— SedatedManiac - The pity is that- And I say this with great respect for him as a warrior- Vick did not leave the playing field on his shield, to finally join the pantheon of "almost good".
Earlier today Jaws detailed how many seconds Vick holds the ball, compared to rest of the quarterbacks- and once again we saw it, in real time today.
Sadly, we now can only look forward to the Hot Stove League.— clayboy - I'm done, this team is mediocre at best. Talent level is abysmal and hard to watch, if you're winning, ok, but losing and hardto watch, ugggh. Bye Andy. Atlanta comes in and wins!!!— Eaglehaslanded
- Horrible performance top to bottom. The play selection is just unbelievable. Sloppy play and failure to execute is accepted by this staff. Offensively, even good play would have difficulty dealing with the play selection. No excuses for losing at home against a poor Lions team.— warwhit1
- Right guys,, this is all Vick's fault,, he should be able to hold a 10 point lead with 5 minutes to go. Put Foles in.
— phillyroni - Silver lining: The more they lose, the sooner we can get rid of the dog killing turnover machine and the coaching staff that wants to make babies with him.— atb124
- Coach Constipation: Enema Time (Reid/Marty/juan) FLUSH HARD. Team stinks and should be 0-6. Are you listening Lurie. People should ask for refunds. You are robbing people of their money.
- Pitchers and Catchers report in 120 days. — argonne
- Maybe we all just sit back and relax. The Andy Reid era is OVER. There is no conceivable way Lurie can keep this guy and his lame excuses, stubborn play calling and game day ineptitude. He will keep calling for Vick to pass which will get Vick killed, ignore Shady's running ability and in the end, he will thankfully drive off into the sunset. It's hard, but it is time for all of us to take one for the team and let the Birds lose. The reward of a new coach and fresh start will be worth it.— nasjo
- I'm sorry Vick, I love you, but when you're bad you're horrible. That, coupled with a nonexistent pass-rush are killing us. Put the ball back in McCoy's hands, and give Foles a shot, couldn't be worse than Vick.— gogreen36
- Great comment. I guess Vick blew the game. Let me give you a round of applause or your genius comment. Very insightful. Dude, you are an idiot. How did Vick play horribly? The man had us up by 10 with 5 minutes to go in the fourth quarter. It's amazing you are pretty much saying Vick blew the game, but you fail to mention how celeb dropped a critical td and how the defense blew the lead, but you know what? Lets blame this loss on Vick — Lpboys
- @Lpboys, did you mention that the defense kept the Lions from scoring on all three turnovers? Plenty of blame to go around but most should be on Vick and Reid. — JPCase
- 3rd straight game no sacks. Vick 5 games with multiple turnovers. Calvin Johnson clutch when needed Asomugha and Rodgers-Cromartie not. Vick lack of care of the football and now the skills have eroded him so now it's time for a change. Time to look at McNabb to give us a chance this season with 2 weeks he can be ready after the bye.
— lonewolf 10
McNabb are you kidding,he so fat he can barely get to the teleprompter
on the NFL Channel? Time for Foles, and see if he is the future of
the franchise, and then fire Reid at season's end hire Gruden and
start a new regime!
— mikey48 - "The Falcons came back and scored their first touchdown of the game, with 10:30 remaining in the fourth quarter, on a 1-yard run by quarterback Matthew Stafford". The Falcons? That explains why the Eagles lost.— SedatedManiac
- Andy... he gone!!
Eagles lost the line of scrimmage on BOTH sides of the ball today— Mr. Magee - I believe this really is a coaching issue. Just not good enough on offensive line and an unwillingness on the part of the coaches to adjust to that reality. Shameful what happened in overtime. Shameful.— iskabobpatel
- It's a coaching issue??? Wow, thanks for the news flash. — jman
- It's been a several years since the Eagles looked like a well-coached team. They're a team that puts up good stats, but are consistently inconsistent. Once again, the team seems like it lacks leadership. No one ever seems to step up and make a big play when it's needed. With this team you expect the other team to make the big play.— p-diddy
- Overrated!!— Mr. Magee
- I am sick and tired of hearing how talented this team is. Good teams don't let their Q.B. get hit every play. They get a lousy first down, when they need it, to take control of the clock. And their defense steps up to close out a game.— Ken B
- Reid has dug his own grave. He can't change Castillio now and all of the homies on the Eagles have their childhood hero's back. Reid would face a homies revolt if he did the right thing and benched Vick. Sad.— Taser
- Bench Vick and take the play calling away from Marty NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Tired of watching this team— connorjr - Bench Vick and put an unproven Foles in. You are an idiot. If I am not mistaken, Vick put us in a position to win every game except the Arizona game. Not only should we fire the coaching staff, we should fire some of you idiotic fans for all the dumb comments you all make. Go join the Cowboys you fair weather fan. I swear the eagles have the worst fans of all the nfl teams — Lpboys
- Lets be serious here. Between the two teams, McCoy would be the only real advantage and the eagles failed to fully use him. At virtually every postion the lions are better.— joemani28
- Been a Birds fan for 40 years and I'm officially tired of Andy. He may be a good guy and he might be a good assistant coach, but in my opinion he is not a good head coach. His team is sloppy,undisciplined and uninspired. I'm sure tomorrow I'll hear Andy say "that's my fault and I've got to do better", but the results will always be the same.
Marty, I wouldn't let you run my fantasy team let alone an NFL offense. How you are still coaching is beyond me.
Juan, I still think you are in over your head.
Vick, I didn't like you in Atlanta, I liked you less after being convicted of dog fighting and I dislike you even more as the Eagles QB. I never rooted so hard for a player to sprain something....anything, to get them off the field. Despite the hits you take, you unfortunately keep coming back :(
Somehow I'm sure it'll get turned around and they'll win some games but not enough to make the playoffs, but just enough to miss out on a high draft pick.— scott2020 - Scott, your comment was sickening. You really wish for your team's qb to get hurt. That's a shame. You don't need to be an eagles fan. Go be a giant or cowboys fan. Hopefully, you will sprain ur ankle or break your leg. — Lpboys
- The key play in this sloppy game was when Brandon Hughes allowed the tight end to get behind him on the 57 yard pass play with the 10 point lead. It was Michael Lewis all over again, a back, not recognizing the score and the clock and allowing a receiver to get behind him. did the same thing on the ensuing td. I know there were many deficiencies, but that play let Detroit back in the game.— retzlaff
- This comment has been deleted. — Greatguy
- I don't understand why Vick has to be called ConVick. If you don't like his play, then fine. But to keep incessantly harping on his past, which he paid for, is ridiculous. He killed dogs--which is bad, but he did not rape little kids. . .let it rest! I'm sick of Americans being more upset about dogs then starving Africans, Asians, and Latin Americans all over the world. Get off of your self-righteous high horse and remember that this is about FOOTBALL and not character assasination. — asonepraise
- This comment has been deleted. — Greatguy
- Well he was punished for the crimes he has committed and is rehabilitated, which what the judicial was intended for...and is now gone from a law breaker to a person that exemplifies what the system is supposed to do.
BTW I call for the expulsion of ignorant bigots to their own island so the rest of society can move on from such nonsense.
By the way, if you're so passionately against about Vick's past crimes, how do you feel about Nike Inc.'s use of slave labor in the manufacturing of their apparel - including children? What about Wisconsin University's torturing of hundreds of cats thru barbaric experimentation? By your standards, shouldn't we just execute the CEO of Nike Inc. & the President of Wisconsin U?
I mean the way you're blasting Michael Vick for past crimes, you must really hate these institutions, right Greatguy?
- ...by the way, Nike Inc. has been using the practice of enslaving men, women and children to inhumane working conditions since 1972; and their CEO is Phil Knight - a multi-billionaire.
Now that you know this #Greatguy, will you do your darndest to call for Phil Knight's execution? Or will you continue to enable this unthinkable atrocity while continuing on your self-righteous rants against Michael Vick and low income families? - Hmmm, no reply #GreatGuy? Dag! Was really hoping for some answer since you seem to know it all...
Anywho #GreatGuy, what should we do about the overwhelming number of ex-military personnel & war vets who are homeless, with no hope of a normal life again? I mean, with your passion for justice, you must be seething at those responsible for this social injustice, right? ...Or, should we not "enable" these bums? Should we just tell them, "Get a job!"
Gotta go for now, but I'll be sure to check back in later for your solution to these problems, #GreatGuy - actually looking forward to your response. - Reality Speaks, sounds like you're the one with the agenda pal. Save your screeds. You criticize others and offer no solutions, sounds like your the self-righteous one. — Repubrebirth
- Over the past few years, even after miserable losses, I always had hope. Today was it for me. I no longer have hope.
The pathetic Lions tried to give us the game. Sixteen penalties?
Vick is way too erratic. Line can't block. Defense can't sack the QB, doesn't force turnovers and has no big hitters. Secondary in particular is a sieve. Special teams' coverage is brutal. Kick and punt returners look like midgets running in quicksand. OVERSEEING ALL THIS ARE THE FAT F**K AND HIS TWO STOOGE COORDINATORS. They will never change, they will never learn, they will never fix things. They're incapable. Come on, Mr. Lurie. Enough is enough!
Governor Rendell is right. These Eagles s**k.— dasher - What an absolute disgrace. Do you want to know the key to the loss? They stink, that's the key. Reid has been saying for a very long time that Vick is ready, that Vick will be ready. Yeah, ready for the boot. Reid had also said that the defense will be O.K. O.K. for what? The whole franchise should have gove extinct a long time ago. Next week is the bye week? How about we extend that bye for the rest of the year and next year too. Oh, what the hey, let's get rid of all of them. It's time for a good ol' fashioned house cleaning. The season started out with replacement refs, maybe the Eagles should be replacement players.— rebekah
- I'm not shocked at all by how this season is turning out. They've been nothing but mediocre since 2004, and Lurie should have moved on from Reid four years ago. When Reid was losing championship games, yeah, you give him another year. But those days are long gone. He is nothing more than a 500 coach at this point. This team is still young. Bring in a new vision and and see if they can get it done. Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do this season except watch and wait. Bring on the Sixers.— Hemingway
- I don't understand why the "experts" on the NFL Channel and ESPN keep picking the Eagles as a superbowl contender. This team is the most inconsistent and worst coached team in the NFL. Time to clean house and start over. The Eagles are going nowhere with Micheal Vick and his biggest fan, Coach Reid. Why is management so blind to what's been happening over the last few years?— Ron T
- I thought of these guys hoping for a collapse to get a coaching change as crazy but after this week maybe they are on to something...Cant keep watching this. Same as last year. What have they done, really, to make anyone think they are a contender?— iskabobpatel
- a pathetic organization top to bottom! 53 years and counting.....a true lesson in futility.......— tjwin23
- So wait... the defense is given a 10 pt lead with 5 1/2 minutes to play, and all everyone here can talk about is "Bench Vick!"??? Is Vick playing defense? As for not being able to read a blitz, he read it perfectly on the 70 completion for a TD to Maclin. He read it perfectly on both attempted TD passes to Celek (one drop, one bad penalty). At the end of the day, the defense couldn't stop a 1-3 team with 5 1/2 mins to go. So when calling for people's heads this week, gotta look at the defense who collapsed for the second straight week -- and even worse this time.— kimbafuzz
- Thank you! Furthermore, we're not even talking about the fact that the playcalling called for Vick to pass instead of handing the ball off at the end of the game! Megatron gets loose against double coverage, the Lions' receivers look like Pro Bowlers, and Vick is to blame? Over 300 yards passing, 70 yards rushing, and he's the one at fault? On the play action pass, Herremans gets beat and Vick has to take a sack, but Vick is at fault? What!!?? — asonepraise
- Thank you kimba. It's about time someone is level headed. I have been wondering the same thing. I just think people personally don't like Vick. — Lpboys
- Why are we stuck with Andy Reid and Michael Vick? There's no answer for it. 13 years of incompetence with Reid, it's not all of a sudden going to get better this season. Fire his fat *** and take the dog killer with him.— Repubrebirth
- As far as I'm concerned, this is an 0-6 team. There are more disappointments coming down the road.
Poor execution, bad playcalling, bad luck. What else is new?— EmanuelP - GO SIXERS!!!!!
smh.
i hate this eagles team.
all these high potent skill players on offense and no brains on how to use them.
waste of time.
disgusting.— bloodymess - Does this team stink or what ?
Does this team stink or what ?
Does Vick stink or what ?
Does Reid stink or what ?
Does the offense look like a bunch of morons or what ?
Does the defense look like a bunch of morons or what ?
Is the owner of the team a complete moron in keeping Reid and Vick ?
Does this team stink or what ?— candidly - three stooges gotta go...andy,,marty,,casillo,,,,,vick s a loser with a big L,,,bench him,,cannot win games with field goals..gotta score more td s,,,,iggles are a low scoring team with no punch in the offense,,lurie is just as bad as the team for giving those stooges another yr to coach this pathetic team— hardball
- And your still the Juan
Who calls the plays
Still the Juan
Who makes us ache
No one is having fun
And Your Still The Juan
You are.....— camasbud - 8-8 will seal reid and vicks fate... Im so tired of this team falling short in winnable ball games— eaglesfan4lyfe
- An entire organization of losers!!!— shawnmac
- 8-8 will seal reid and vicks fate... Im so tired of this team falling short in winnable ball games— eaglesfan4lyfe
- 3 more turnovers this game. Leading the universe in turnovers, and some still defend the dog killer. Bias much?— atb124
- Still trying to figure out how this one is Vick's fault. Sure, turnovers don't help. But the defense isn't making any big plays; forcing turnovers. Two games in a row they held the lead down the stretch. Two games in a row the defense let up. And regarding overtime, no one is saying you need a TD on your first possession. The team is allowed to play field position. Just look at the third and long, all the receivers had routes that went to first down marker. No check down, no underneath route. Reid's coaching is "offensive", pun intended.— beegal99
- Bluto must go.— Wilhelm Von Humboldt
- You can just see Andy as he's being told by Lurie that he's fired, talking over him the whole time, muttering "gotta get better, starts with me, gonna take a look at that there, time's yours, need to fix that...."— Mr. Magee
- well this team s***s bad and they aint goin anywhere now .oh dont worry though there best days this year are still ahead of em in the last 3 or 4 weeks when nothings on the line and they are well out of contention they will play like a strong contender and emty promises for next year,and the year after ,and the year after,well you get my drift.this is the most media over rated team ive ever witnessed step on a nfl football field.— arkdad212
- Vick since start of 2011: 26 TDs, 42 Turnovers.— gordon7
- Everyone calm down, Andy's gonna put them in a better position to win!!!! I'm just kidding...this whole organization needs to be fired, head coach, O & D coordinators, GM and QB.— daqueen123
- The locals lowly IQ's continually overrating the talent on this club is what is laughable. Outside of Philthidelphia- the rest of the nation knows it's a .500 team- plain & simple. The record is congruent with the talent. Keep drinking.— Northcountry
- Trade Vick, Play Nick.
Fire Juan, Hire Anybody.
Sack Fat Andy, Hire the Chin.— WestonF01 - Fire Reid now, why give him another minute on the Eagles sidelines. As for all you Sixers fans, that team has no chance to win a title. A playoff series win is a call for a parade in this town. Only 4 or 5 teams are granted a chance to win in that fixed league They're mediocre like the rest of the teams in this town.
From the shrill defense of Charlie Manuel and Ryan Howard by the media and fans, to deluded Eagles fans, we've come to accept .500 as the benchmark for success. Enough! Fire Reid and Manuel and bring in some people who can manage their sports.— Repubrebirth - First of all, nobody accepts .500 as the benchmark for success, there are literally hundreds of people commenting about how bad this team blows. Secondly, your comments about Howard and Manuel are asinine. You're an idiot
— DixonBunz - Dixon, I won't resort to the "you're an idiot" attacks because I don't know you. You presented no defense for Manuel and Howard, so I won't even bother with the Howard argument. If you want to have a real discussion without resorting to name calling, cool. If not, you're just a punk poster who doesn't see the need to rant against mediocrity.
Let's see, 81-81 with a manager who lost enough games for them to miss the playoffs and not only is he coming back, but fans shout down those who wanted him gone. Reid isn't gone and the team was 8-8 last year and are 3-3 this year. Seem like it's become an acceptable standard to me since no one is held to account. Can you respond without being a punk?— Repubrebirth - Nope, you're an idiot.
— DixonBunz - Dixon, you've proven you can't formulate an argument, but worse than that you're a complete loser. Keep accepting mediocrity. Go to the games and cheer on 8-8 efforts, vote for Obama and keep it real - real stupid you dope. — Repubrebirth
- @DixonBunz. Exercise in futility when trying to reason with someone who twists the loss of a football game into their political & social beliefs, ie., Repubrebirth. ...obvious to see there are other agendas going on here. Idiocy is as idiocy does.
- Reality, you're the king of the Stepford fans. Anyone who has a dissenting opinion is immediately an idiot in your simple world. Beat it. — Repubrebirth
Comment removed.- derp— richardecredico
- dandy andy,"I have to put them in a better place to win". Ha!Ha! Ray Rhodes used to say,"we'll have to clean that up". Rich Kotite used to say,"we are all big boys here". Joe Kuharick used to blame it "on the fringe plays". It all comes down to the same thing, andy, you have had this team for 13 yrs. and your players still take the same stupid penalties, you keep calling the same stupid pass plays that get your QB killed. Has anyone told this "genius" that by running the ball, you can keep your QB healthy and create problems for the opposition defense? I was shocked to see 3 time outs left at the end of regulation. Your defense can not stop anyone at "crunch" time. You draft undersized De ends that get knocked off the ball regularly, ignore linebacking and o linemen. After13 yrs you have proved your arrogant ignorance because your teams and your play calling keep failing in the end as they have since you bailed out on the team before half in the superbowl. Andy , you have learned NOTHING in 13 yrs and that is a looong time to have been barren. PLEASE LEAVE AND KEEP YOUR ARROGANT MOUTH SHUT!— bevejo2
Ask yourself this... If you were a fan of any other team in the NFL, Could you look at this team and not just check it off as an easy win? Offense is so predictable, Defense cant sniff a QB and the special teams (enter laughable comment here).
I really think Andy Reid and the fans just need a change of scenery, both sides are tired of the other for the most part— DaFatman- No pass rush. Cant protect the passer. No running game. Whipped on the line of scrimmage again by a more physical team. I've been a big Reid supporter but his smoke and mirrors track team wont win a championship.— tr88
- Awful quarterback play.— Edward L Norton
- Laurie are you hiding.— olddog
- smh..no matter who was at qb..that would have been a lost..this one was on the worst playcalling games i have seen from reid and i seen some bad ones! when u are running the football u dont call stretch plays all game and keep calling them like its working, espcially against the wide 9 a scheme that ur own defense runs! what happened to going into i formation like the giants game and keeping that offense off the field..secondly..why the hell are u throwing the football with a lead and a lil over 3 minutes left in the 4th! ur qb keeps getting killed and u still calling long developing plays in the first half..have we not learned from other games that that doesnt work..u adjust to the shorter passing game in the second half but that should have been the gameplan coming in! that is a aggressive defensive line..and u throw ur qb to the wolves..smh..i swear people think andy loves vick..i think its the opposite he is getting that man killed. then vick isnt a dropback and pass every down qb..stop trying to turn him into that! smh..i kinda wish we miss the playoffs this year just so andy gets fired..i cant take his coaching anymore im sorry. i support any team u put out there, but andy is a complete moron. i cant even blame the defense this game should have been out of reach as many stops the defense had in that game. the offense did very lil with it. that defense was gassed. of course it would have helped with a running game that took time off the clock..smh— bigjay215
- Reid's team took the week off early. I guess he told them it was OK. Other than that, it is the same old Eagles. Reid's 1-dimensional offense is too predictable. Castillo's defense was soft and is getting even softer. There is no reason to think this team can achieve 8-8,given they needed a lot of luck to make it to 3-3. Firing Reid now would make some fans happy but Lurie will stick with the arrogant fool for now.— Soaring Eagle
- Has Andy Reid been fired yet??
If not, why not??!!— Nicher - If you want to blame the D for giving up a late lead, you have to credit them with keeping the Lions off the board after all three of Vick's turnovers. I'd say they were great for most of the game, but wilted when their offense kept screwing them over by turning the ball over and going 3 and out at the most critical times. So much for Vick in the clutch huh?— atb124
- Not sure I follow your math. Eagles had the lead in the fourth. You're saying Eagles had the lead, gave it up, took it back and gave it up again. Besides, we're not on totally different pages. The defense wilted. There's no arguing against that.
But if you want to use caps and exclamation points, The defense held strong after THREE Vick turnovers in the same game THREE!!!
The Vick lead offense went 3 and out TWICE in a row in the clutch. TWICE!!!— atb124 - It's really very simple. The Coach and game plan don't help the QB.
It's actually more like the game plan will get the QB killed.
No Qb can survive 10-12 hits per game.
The offense struggles due to poor game plans and poor QB play and the dee is on the field for a long time. A word down Dee can't hold at end of the game but they get no help from Coach and QB.
If Reid simply gave the ball to McCoy 20 times a game, they'd be in a better place but he wants to throw down field. When's the last time the eagles had a methodical 15 play 5 or 6 minute offensive drive down the field. It doesn't happen.— Fan74 - One game closer to Reid packing his bags and getting out of town. Hopefully, Vick will be close behind. I'm hoping Vick doesn't last the season. I want to see his ribs protruding from his chest.— Justaschmuck
- Gold Standard!— Pomp
- Nobody's talking about how they stopped playing with 5 minutes left in the game. I saw them high-fiving on the sideline; That is a coaching issue. Reid is to blame for this. He put this staff in place. He will now deal with the consequences...— iskabobpatel
- Tank the rest of the season and two good things happen. 1-a high draft pick . 2 - A.R.gets canned. Tanking can't be too hard to do. They can tank without hardly trying. A high draft pick will get all screwed up anyway but doesn't it sound good ? And A.R. getting canned would make it all worthwhile. Some solutions... have King Dunlop return kicks. Could it be any worse ??? Resign Donovan You Know Who . This would be a monumental upgrade. And ,lastly, bench Shady McCoy . He's hardly used anyway.— jeromie
- 2 words to pin this loss on: BRENT CELEK!!
Cost us at least 8 points today by not being able to hang onto the football, or being penalized for offensive PI.— Nicher - hahahaha! i am now cheering for whoever the eagles play every week..yes EVEN dallas. anything it takes to get reid out of here and lurie humiliated enough to sell the team. its a long shot, but thats the only chance this franchise ever has at success. i said it last week, i'll say it again. the failure of this team is not andy's fault. it rests squarely on lurie. his enabler. the enabler can't be trusted with any decisions. he's watched 7 years of this and has decided its ok. he's taken this long time fan and turned him into an eagle hater. and i'm not the only one. good job lurie.— jakeAZ
- I sure miss #5 ,Pukey McFlabb...— DreamTeamWeaver
- Keep backing Vick guys. This way we will get rid of Reid, Marty ands Vick at the same time. Just keep Vick healthy so he can be himself.— mario1239
- The city of losers! What a sorry performance by this motley team!— fafink
- Replace Vick and Reid immediately— Aussie Fan
- Today was my last Eagles game. Just packed up my Eagles stuff and am taking it to a thrift shop. I'm tired of having my Sundays ruined by a bunch of losers. If Lurie really gave a damn he'd walk into the clubhouse and fire Reid. Gutless team. Don't talk to me about their grit. They're gutless.— DennyM15
- Laurie is the blame for allowing this fiasco to go on year after year. They are not a good football team. It's amazing they are 3/3. Laurie is as stubborn as Reid. The Philadelphia fans deserve better!— Chief_Negotiator
- I still feel comfortable with Vick coming up big when it matters. Today, yes 2 turnovers but 370 yards from air and ground behind an o-line with more leaks than the Titanic. Shady with only 22 yards on 14 carries with this o-line.
I don't trust the d at all. They're good to start but as the game goes on the opposition figures them out and rolls over them.— eagles100 - no winning team on the field for the birds to this point— brjsphila
- It's all McNabb's fault!— SabresBillsfan
- it's not two, but 3 consecutive 4th qtr collapses by defense. just 3 weeks ago we got lucky and NYG missed the field goal. Castillo develops a plan which works with moderate success, then the other team figures him out and he can't adjust. i'd be curious about where the eagles d stands in 4th quarter yards allowed.— LMparent
- Where are all the fools at that were fooled again coming into this season? Shame on you and your lack of intelligence. I've been touting the Eagles deficiencies since July in the face of the media's hallucinations regarding the "greatness" of this team. We've heard NFL experts predict the Eagles going to the Super Bowl, a Daily News columnist calling Jeremy Maclin great and several draft nerds on this site touting the Eagles draft as one of the best of the decade. LOL.
This draft is as pathetic as the previous few. No one drafted this year has made any discernable impact whatsoever. Kendricks has been adequate which is an upgrade by default. Cox has been M.I.A. all year. Boykin's been okay and no one else has even sniffed the field.
Keep believing the hype that this team is great, Reid is a genius and Howie had the draft of the decade. LOL I'll see you at 8-8 in January.— guyguy4 - Poor Arlen Specter. Another lifetime Eagles fan going into the box without ever seeing a Super Bowl championship. THe fate we all share.— Wilhelm Von Humboldt
- Just when you think you've seen the worst, the Birds, coaches & all, put on another stinker beyond words.
Don't think poor Foles has a snowball's chance of being a pocket passer without a pocket but likely he couldn't be worse than what Vick has shown us. Two picks, lucky not more & a fumble were atrocious enough without the backward drive in over time, single handedly dooming his team to defeat.
Only hoping the 'bye' week would be goodbye to Vick, Reid & Castillo but no way will Lurie do what's necessary to salvage anything of this season. The bright side: given Vick's miserable showing, no way will they keep him at great cost under his $100M contract.— narkose3535 - The offensive line is a disgrace. Maybe the worst we have had throughout Reid's tenure, and that's saying something.— PaulW
- i literally can't stand andy reid. i begging you fire him now!!!— sgamble077
- Not one of you complainers can even throw a spiral 5yds. Alot of blame to go around, but we lost as a team. Period— elijah29
- Really a team how about the coaches and Mr. turnover? — Mountaineagle
- What's "our" football skills have to do with anything?
We're not being paid to throw the ball 5 yards.
Yeah, we lost as a team, and the leader of this team, Andy Reid, is responsible. He sucks! - Fire Reid and most other coaches and release Vick now!!— Mountaineagle
- You know what bothers me? The Sportswriters of this newspaper. Isn't it about time one of them writes the truth about what every single fan of this city has been thinking for 14 years? I mean, what good are the sportswriters if they pander all day every day to the teams they cover. We all knew and know that Andy was never smart enough or good enough to bring this city the Super Bowl. We have known it for the last 14 years. Yet all these loser sportswriters do is continue with their BS. What good is it being a reporter if you are too afraid to report the truth?— cruisecuisine
- This was a "professional" game?— Disco Dave