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All's Cool with DJax; Browns Talk to Heckert

POSTED: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:30 AM

UPDATED: DeSean Jackson said Tuesday he has discussed with Donovan McNabb what McNabb said after Snday's game, when McNabb was asked whether the Eagles showed their youth.

"Not necessarily," Jackson said, when asked if he'd been upset by McNabb's comments. "He made a comment, whatever his comment was about, I didn't hear the question that he was asked. But we talked, and you know, it's nothing big. We just have to keep it in-house and stick together as a team and don't let things like that break us up. We talked about it, cleared it up, and it's all right."

In other breaking Eagles news, a league source confirmed that Eagles general manager Tom Heckert is to travel to Cleveland tonight to interview for a similar position. The Browns just hired Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid's mentor, to run their operation. Hard to say how much personnel autonomy Heckert would have there; Reid said recently he thought the time had come for Heckert to get the chance to run his own shop, which he said was why the Birds have seemed less ardent about keeping Heckert than they were several years back when job openings would come up.

A source with knowledge of the situation said Heckert would only take the job if he had final say over personnel.

Earlier, McNabb attempted to clarify what he'd meant Sunday.

"It all starts with me. I have to raise my level of play, and everyone else has to, as well ... What I meant is, we have a young team, and a lot of things we were doing just were very uncharacteristic of what we did all throughout the year. I wasn’t blaming it on anyone, by any means. I said it was my fault on the snap, and I said that I need to elevate my game. I think at times, too many people focus on just little things, and not focus on what the whole question and the whole answer is. I’ve never attempted or even tried or will ever throw anyone under the bus. That’s just not me. I don’t do that. For these young guys, these young guys are part of the reason why we’re in the position we are. They’ve made a lot of plays for us, all throughout the year, and they will continue to make plays for us.

Later, he said, "I have never thrown anyone under the bus and never will ... That's not me."

McNabb said he has no issues with Jackson.

He said players need to make plays rather than worrying over whether someone is going to, and that they need to recapture the excitement and eagerness to make plays they exhibited during their six-game win streak.

As for his future, McNabb said he feels he "will be here for a lot of years," no matter what happens in the playoffs.

"Do I have to answer this every year?"

Jackson, by the way, said he practiced with no ill effects from the groin tweak he suffered in Sunday's game. He also was asked about his tweet promising the Eagles would "sting they (butt)" this time around. Jackson said he doubted Dallas really needed motivation.

EARLIER:

Anything Donovan McNabb says becomes fodder, whether correctly interpreted or not.

One of the young players seemingly in question is DeSean Jackson.

The wide receiver was asked last night on his radio show on 97.5 FM The Fanatic about McNabb’s comments and whether his message in the locker room is different than what it appeared he was trying to say during the news conference.

“He basically is saying just step it up,” Jackson said. “Everyone has to play their abilities. He takes responsibility for himself also. He kinda gives and takes. At the end of the day we have to be on our A game. For us to win and be where we need to be, everyone needs to play good. All that pointing fingers and saying it’s my fault. It’s not time for that right now. We have to play A ball.”

Co-host Harry Mayes followed the clip of McNabb’s news conference with this: “How about him making a play? He’s an 11-year veteran. He’s been to multiple Pro Bowls. Take some responsibility, put it on yourself and make a play.”

Jackson’s response: “Yes, sir … Understood … Definitely … Without a doubt.”

Jackson said the players remain insulated from the talk surrounding the team, but added, “ If you played that [sound bite] through the locker room, that’s not something nobody wants to hear.”

Asked if there would a be conversation between he and McNabb, Jackson said. “Ain’t no telling. We talk and have conversations and things. You never know.”

The other McNabb issue du jour concerns the numerous camera shots Sunday that showed McNabb grimacing and frustrated with what was happening for the Eagles’ offense.

“Him being the leader and the bulk of the offense you depend on him to do everything,” Jackson said. “It doesn’t look good. It’s hard to see our quarterback being mad, sometimes it’s understandable. You have to shake it off and become a part of everything that’s going on. The best thing I can say is try not to show those emotions or feelings on the field.”

Jackson said after miscommunications and other mishaps, all you can do when you get back to the huddle is “move on, man, move on.”

Jackson has struggled in the two games against the Cowboys, with a combined five catches for 76 yards.

“I’m going to do any and everything I can,” he said. “I can’t control other things out there. As long as I go out there and leave everything I got on the field and run my routes as fast as I can to get open. At the end of the day, that’s all I can do.”

Jackson tweaked his hamstring Sunday, but indicated he was not concerned.

“It was a freak accident,” he said. “It’s not too bad. With the treatment and things we can do to get it better, I’ll be ready.”

As for the game overall Sunday, Jackson said, “It was an embarrassing situation to be in a game like that and not be able to score no points at all. We’ve got another chance. Can’t worry about yesterday. It was what it as and it was not good. We have to move on.”

You can listen to the audio from Jackson's radio show below.

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Comments  (237)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:41 AM, 01/05/2010
    The scenes of Dsmack petulantly waving a throwing his arms around during the game like a schoolgirl, making those ridiculous faces (you could almost hear him whining, Oh mannnnnnnn!) was simply embarrassing. If we are unlucky enough to have this loser here next year, maybe he'll take some time during the Indy game to watch Manning and see how a professional QB behaves. Maybe he can listen to Manning's post game conferences to hear how a professional QB speaks. This guy is an O V E R R A T E D hack who became average when he decided to stop running and be a "pocket passer". Unfortunately, you need to be ACCURATE to be a pocket passer. If Reid had any sense he'd start Kolb this week. Not like we'd be losing a LEADER or anything...
    enabler1
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:52 AM, 01/05/2010
    I love how the radio show clowns try and stir up controversy between our two best offensive weapons during the week of their most important game. Aren't they fans as well? I understand that they need to stay relevant but come on man... Why stir controversary when all the team and the fan base wants to do is win.
    sore richard
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:58 AM, 01/05/2010
    It's funny. If #5 doesn't show emotion, the haters say he has no heart. When he does show emotion, the haters say "why are you showing emotion. Get over it." It's a can't win situation.
    palmyra21
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:59 AM, 01/05/2010
    alll qb's give faces, maybe not as elaborate as mcnabb, but they all show emotion. what about manning's faces during the jets game when he got pulled? what kind of "professionalism" did he show there?
    GetMeToThePlateBoys
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:02 AM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb is a great talent when not under pressure. When we need him to be the leader he should be, he always falls short and probably always will. His flailing arms & whining on Sunday was unprofessional and uncalled for. He stunk and then blamed others. Not a trait of a great leader & professional. Agreed, enabler1. I hope he's gone next year too. Just for a change of pace if anything. Sick of watching them lose the big game & ruining my good parties.
    ilovesalad
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:05 AM, 01/05/2010
    Let me get this straight, McNabb had comparatively little to do with the loss. Did you see the points the Eagles scored? No matter how bad a defense is, the game is lost if you can't score any points. Also why is it the receivers fault when they drop a bullet pass thrown behind them, then its the centers fault on a fumble that "only" got to the quarterbacks knees?
    MasterOFunk
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:07 AM, 01/05/2010
    Didn’t care to see McNabb show his frustrations like that. He could show some more poise. But all in all, I think his teammates have got his back, and vice versa…and oh yeah, about D-Jax, the man just gets it.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:07 AM, 01/05/2010
    Palmyra21 and DavezMental are right on!
    mjschorn
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:19 AM, 01/05/2010
    Hey, DJack...when guys are dropping balls and running the wrong route, a QB is going to be mad. Why wouldn't he? Ever watch BRady and Manning? They are constantly doing the same thing. Do you job and catch the ball, run the correct pattern, and shut up. And those who said McNabb threw them under the bus didn't listen to the whole conference. He took more than his share of the blame and only said the young guys showed some youth when asked. It's unbelievable how McNabb can do nothing right in this town. If any other QB said it, they'd be saying he's a leader telling his guys to step up.
    brian2706
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:21 AM, 01/05/2010
    If you want to see a whining school girl, look at Tom Brady. I'm sorry, when he does it he's showing passion. Then he pouts off of the field. Its funny how you notice 2 passes out of 30+. And if you honestly believe Kolb is a better option, you're a moron and thats all the response you deserve
    hodges8476
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:28 AM, 01/05/2010
    What can 5 do against such wreckless hate?
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:29 AM, 01/05/2010
    Classic McNabb. Under critisism he makes a backhanded slap at someone else and now he'll go into a shell, underperform again and we'll have to read about it on yardbarker or whatever the "heck" his blog is... How about accepting a little responsibility Mac? For better or worse, next season has got to be the start of the Kevin Kolb Era. Enough is enough.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:30 AM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb has always deflected blame. This is nothing new. He doesn't do himself any favors in press conferences, to say the very least. The team is a perfect reflection of him. Long periods of high level play followed by inexplicable lapses that make you think they don't even belong. His whole career has been that way. Just win four games in a row. I can't even believe he blamed Cole for that snap. What kind of leader does that. It was on TV Don. We all saw it. It was your fault, period. Accept blame every once in a while. Then win the freakin Super Bowl!
    Denali
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:32 AM, 01/05/2010
    If you're looking for a silver lining, the whooping in Dallas came at the right time. A wake up call to a team that, over the years, has generally responded with solid efforts from big red and McNabb after debacles -- one week later would have been a disaster. Now let's see if they can take advantage of this opportunity...
    nyphillyguy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:32 AM, 01/05/2010
    So your telling me Kevin Kolb deserves to start over two proven veterans. Makes me wonder the real reason you don't like McNabb. Atleast Rush Limbaugh was man enough to voice his true feelings. And if you want to see a class act, check out Bill Belichek.
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:34 AM, 01/05/2010
    I believe Dallas would actually be relieved if the Eagles start Kolb. It's up to Andy Reid to determine which QB gives the Eagles the best chance of winning. Who do YOU think he will choose?
    BigAlHeDMan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:38 AM, 01/05/2010
    It's sad. For all the talent Donovan has, he basically shows up his teammates on the field. You just can't do that. Encourage your team, don't humiliate them.
    rwright611
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:40 AM, 01/05/2010
    Can we please stop the McNabb bashing? Overrated QB's don't make it to 4 NFC Championships and a SB with no receivers. You tell me what you think a QB is and I'll give you aleast two receivers that made him look better than he really is.
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:40 AM, 01/05/2010
    DeSean talking about showing emotions on the field is a no-no? That's funny.
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:45 AM, 01/05/2010
    To Enabler1 For the record, make sure you know what you are talking about when you decide to denigrate Donovan McNabb. Maybe you should have used a better example. Peyton Manning has won a single Super Bowl, one more than McNabb. He, and the Colts, are fast becoming the Atlanta Braves of the NFL and I will be laughing loudly when they lose (because they are not winning the Super Bowl). Go back and look through the interviews, I know for one he threw his offensive line under the bus and it was at the time Van der Jagt questioned his ability to lead them to a Super Bowl. How many times do we have to see Peyton whine to the officials when he gets hit. Talk about the ultimate crybaby. Had you used Brady, it would have carried more weight, but you used the wrong guy. So, get your facts straight before you unload on your diatribe. You want Kolb in, for your reasons (wink, wink), but Donovan has lead the team to an excellent season. Deal with it
    clownstotheright
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:47 AM, 01/05/2010
    You haters can criticize, bash and spit on McNabb all you want. The bottom line is no QB would have won that game the way the Cowboys dominated every aspect of the game (physical and mental), including coaching in both sides of the ball. Think about it, when arguably your best player was Rocca, there is no chance for any QB to win that game, no Brady, Manning, Unitas or anyone you want to throw out there.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:47 AM, 01/05/2010
    Under the context of the question it was a fair answer... I didn't see Mcnabb do anything different then he normally does when the team didn't make plays. I guess he could have gone up to a guy who just let the ball go thru his hands on third and long and smile and say nice try. But he didn't he did the right thing and on the next set of downs he passed the ball to him... Some you guys make reference to him acting like a child well some of the comments here are much less than adult. It was a bad game and a majority of the team lacked intensity and that goes to Reid. For some reason the game plan lead to the lack of intensity on the field. The coaches held back in case they played Dallas next week... For that they should be flogged!!
    BBAX
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:50 AM, 01/05/2010
    Folks why can't we just let Saturday night's game play out the way it is going to play out? Can't we draw from history in all of this? Isn't it hard to beat a team 3 times in a row? You folks will never be satisfied with McNabb. You better appreciate him now because when he gone what are you going to say then? Love DeSean Jackson for not being drawn into the "media fray". Why don't we just stop hating, and just root for the hometeam. This may our last shot with this group to get to a Super Bowl! At least, McNabb is being the leader that folks "harped" on him to be during the T-O years! He's my QB and I will not throw him under the bus. I implore the Eagle Nation to do the same. Go "Eggles" beat dem Cowgirls!
    dudega
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:52 AM, 01/05/2010
    JLJ: I was referencing a line from Lord of the Rings. I have no intention of getting into this argument. McNabb is what he is, some people give him too much credit, some don't give him enough.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:54 AM, 01/05/2010
    I've been an Eagles fan my whole life, but when I was stationed in Texas and saw how those fans stand behind there team. I always heard how ignorant Eagles fans can get, when I lived in Philly I was offended, but now that I live elsewhere it makes me ashamed to say we don't deserve to win anything. Some things never change, you didn't like Randell Cunningham either. Sometimes we behave like ungrateful thugs
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:02 AM, 01/05/2010
    JLJ, you must not watch other games because Brady and Manning constantly do exactly what you described McNabb doing.
    brian2706
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:03 AM, 01/05/2010
    JLJ - I'll take "McChump's" analysis over yours any day of the week. You sound like your 6 year old in your argument. The team has had a great season (especially given their injury challenges ALL YEAR). Kolb is going to be a great QB, I really believe that, but McNabb is still currently better. Kolb knows that, that's likely why he's content to keep 'waiting in the wings'. Also, he knows what kind of seasoned weapons he's going to inherit once he does take the reins, whether it be next season or 2011. Guaranteed: that in a room filled with just you and McNabb and the only clown in sight is YOU!!!!!
    Herc142
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:05 AM, 01/05/2010
    dudega, thank you for showing these morons what a "True Eagles Fans" is supposed to act like. There are 20 cities that wish they had somebody to cheer for next week. Support "OUR" team and stopped complaining.
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:05 AM, 01/05/2010
    For a very long time I felt that people in Philly didn't appreciate what they had in McNabb...Until this past Sunday when I saw him over throw and throw behind people ALL GAME LONG and just smile when he made the errand throws only to see him grimace and throw his arms around when others made mistakes. I love the Eagles, I have enjoyed the tenure with #5 but his act is getting old and I am starting to see what the so called "haters" have been seeing for years.
    silrock327
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:05 AM, 01/05/2010
    All the Philly media reporters, deep down, root for the cowboys, and the sad part is the fans expect to hear quality articles, instead of trying to get a player or two say something about another player. Soap opera, that is what Bob,Phil and the daily news staff writer want to destroy this team.
    BobDeschak
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:07 AM, 01/05/2010
    Denali - FIrst off, McNabbaccepted "full responsibility" for the fumbled snap...second, it was a bad snap. 'Nuff said.
    Herc142
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:11 AM, 01/05/2010
    Please do not mention Brady and McNabb in the same sentence.
    ant8817
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:16 AM, 01/05/2010
    I think the picture of McNabb on the sidelines says it all about him. Staring off in the distance with his head tilted to the side with a whoa is me face. A true leader rounds up his troops and gets them fired up and ready for the next series. Would you follow someone with a face like that into battle? I sure wouldnt
    barefoot
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:17 AM, 01/05/2010
    Hey Ant....you just did! hahahahahahahahahaha
    Herc142
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:20 AM, 01/05/2010
    JLJ, what has Kolb proven? Why do haters always want to pull stats into the conversation. The only stats that matter are wins ans losses. Trent Dilfer won a SB and didn't complete 10 passes. Jeff Garcia was better than McNabb too, how did that work out? Kolb is another A.J. Feely, nothing more.
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:23 AM, 01/05/2010
    Hodges8476 - Superbowl ring score: Brady 3, McMope 0
    delder
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:28 AM, 01/05/2010
    Hey master of funk,you are a typical,ignorant McNabb hater.He said VERY CLEARLY the fumbled snap was his fault.Ignorant people are afraid of the facts.Like I said,you guys are worse than trolls because you PRETEND to be Eagles fans.
    bednarick
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:28 AM, 01/05/2010
    The truth is, McNabb said and did the same thing any other QB would do during that kind of team performance. Yes, McNabb had a bad game, but so did most everyone else. They didn't look prepared to play. Dropped balls, terrible running game, passive defense. It was just a bad game all around. And taking one sound byte out of context where he was asked about "the young guys" and trying to build controversy does not help anyone but the radio hosts.
    kingsolomonsmind
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:29 AM, 01/05/2010
    If both lines don't play better it won't matter who's the QB. Haters...sigh...
    gwfisher
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:35 AM, 01/05/2010
    delder just proved my point, why do haters always use stats? Why do you give individual credit for a team accomplishment. Championships mean you had a better team. Trent Dilfer has more rings than McNabb too. Does that mean he's better or did Trent Dilfer have one of the greatest defenses of all time.
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:37 AM, 01/05/2010
    MASTEROFUNK IS RIGHT ON - I SAW #5 give away 17 points with an overthrown pass to Jackson, a pass behind Macklin, and his own fumble in the red zone that could have been 3 points.
    ox
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:38 AM, 01/05/2010
    Wow the McNabb haters is annoying. You bash him for not showing emotion, then you bash him for showing emotion. The man was frustrated with his play and the play of others. Did you not watch the press conference??? he did put the loss on his shoulders but he also made it clear that he wasnt pleased with his supporting cast. Every other QB says stuff like that, its called being the leader. Stop hating, Kolb is a career backup at best and is not the anwser, he'll be throwing INT's left right and centre. McNabb is best we've ever had and gives us a chance every single year period.
    BoyWonder_89
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:40 AM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb looked just like Hamels when he petulantly raised his hands in disgust as Chase made a throwing error in the postseason. How well did THAT go over? For whatever reason, the best thing that McNabb can say is the one thing he never says, at least, with sincerity: "I stunk. I need to make the plays. Come on, boys, and follow me. We'll get it done this week." The problem is that he always says the wrong thing, but even more pointed, he says it with the wrong demeanor. He comes across as a robot, an automaton who is disingenuous. Hey, Donovan, was that pass during the final drive in the Denver game intended for Avant? "No, not at all. I threw it to Maclin." And then we find out otherwise. In Philly, the fans will love you if you follow a basic, two-part formula: Play hard and admit when you need to do better. McNabb plays hard, not always well, but he has never gotten the second part of the formula. Who is his PR guy? He's overpaid. And that's why, if the Eagles lose this week, his career in Philly will be over.
    farside37
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:44 AM, 01/05/2010
    Neither of these issues are "issues du jour," they are both characteristics of McNabb's throughout his career. He shows too much emotion and has never had a "the buck stops here" mentality.
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:44 AM, 01/05/2010
    Check out games with Dan Marino (back in the days) and Brett Farve who constantly cursed out receivers for making mistakes!! People say that that was leadership and it showed grit. However, if McNabb just shows some emotions, then it is NOT good. Donovan McNabb is our starting QB now and will be next year; you HATERS can cry all you want, but it will not change.
    Bigbadrookie
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:48 AM, 01/05/2010
    I think McNabb should show positive emotion, rather than the clown act and then the frustation grimace after his low throw wasn't caught. The reason McNabb is an all Pro is that he is personable with the media and is capable of having a great game now and then. Lets hope the great game comes this Saturday.
    ras#2
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:53 AM, 01/05/2010
    Hey Farside Tell me how that worked for Mike Schmidt? Tell me again how he was treated during his playing day? Was he a unique individual or is it that Philly, like other cities, gravitate towards certain players and dislike others? Please stop with the excuses or just own up to the truth. I'd have a lot more respect for people being honest and admitting their are certain players they like and others they don't like, instead of these childish justifications (he says the wrong thing, with the wrong demeanor)...please. What about Steve Carlton...did he say the right things, with the right demeanor...rolls eyes
    clownstotheright
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:58 AM, 01/05/2010
    I just wish #5 would deliver us a great game and then all this talk about throwing people under the bus, throwing behind receivers his unprofessional antics & lack of leadership would go away. The other QB's get more slack because they have delivered in the clutch more often than #5. He is making the most money & is one of the highest paid players in the league over the past 10 years, so, with that lofty pay status are lofty expectations. That's accountability! When they are not met we as humans get upset with our star QB. Does it sometimes get ugly yea it does, however, we have watched this team be at the pinnacle so many times w/the big prize within grasp & we fall short & many times #5 will start or finish a big game real bad putting his team in a bad position to be successful. We never seem to get a full game of above average performance out of him so he can shut everyone up with his performance on Saturday, if not, his time w/Eagles should be over. I don't want to think that but I'm also a realist. Think about it from the players perspective, how often can you be led into battle by a QB who just can't seem to get it done (play a good, complete game) in a big game? At what point do you as a player lose faith in him? If this was Kolb, Brady or Manning I would feel the same, seriously! It has nothing to do with anything other than performance & leadership. Great QB's make plays, average and good QB's can get their team to the dance but fall short. So far he has fallen short. It's in his hands, he has the weapons, he had plenty of time to throw in Dallas. Too many throws are not where they need to be & I wish he was more accurate w/his throws but he is not. I really want the best for Donavin & the Eagles but inconsistency is a constant issue. If he fails again it would be in his & Eagles best interest to go separate ways. I will stay positive & hope for the best. Also, just because a guy fails to deliver in a big pro sports situation doesn't make him a bad person!
    Bringbackteamplay
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:00 AM, 01/05/2010
    I am a big 5 fan and think he is our best option. But this week he looked timid and did not lead. Would it hurt him to be a little more RA RA when the D is on the field. He had the defeated look that we have all seen before which is unacceptable. He needs to lead and fire up his line and team by stepping up and making the play himself!!
    bigtuna
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:01 AM, 01/05/2010
    The problem with Donovan McNabb is that he comes so close to being great, but isn't. That small but crucial gap between good and great frustrates everybody, makes fans say abusive things they don't really mean. McNabb has arm strength, body strength and a decent ability to read the field. But he doesn't have accuracy or, way more important, the kind of confidence that Favre and P. Manning have, the confidence that tells teammates and everybody else, "I expect to win this dang game." Sadly, I agree with those who say it's time for him to go his way.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:13 AM, 01/05/2010
    The funny thing is, in 5 years when the Eagles are consistent basement dwellers with a carousel of bad quarterbacks, you'll long for the last 10 years.
    outtatime
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:14 AM, 01/05/2010
    Go Boys.....we got the apologists and McLackies on the run.....I thought he was the leader of this team....leaders NEVER place blame in a "bait" question, They step up and TAKE the blame....he is just an McExcuse for a leader and QB...His last game is Saturday....watch for the lookout blocks>>>>hehehe McSack, Mcfumble, McLoser
    SkipinWV
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:14 AM, 01/05/2010
    I can't wait until this baby is out of town. He is without a doubt one of the most overrated athletes ever to play in this city. For years he has had his stats padded due to the offensive scheme (look at the YAC totals for Westbrook and Owens). Supposedly he has been an integral part of the team yet when he went down with injury the offense often performed BETTER in his absence.
    Philly_Cheesesteak
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:16 AM, 01/05/2010
    Donovan was right, Desean and Maclin did nothing the other day... Suck it Stupid Eagles fans you are the Dumbest in the NFL........ I am a Eagles fan and saying this.
    5isthebestEagleEver
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:16 AM, 01/05/2010
    Other QBs get more slack because we have seen them will their teams to wins. When the going gets tough for the Eagles, McNabb seems to be looking for ways to avoid blame and its been that way for years. How else can you explain his engineering of a clock-eating drive to seal the Super Bowl for the Patriots in 2005? He did the same on Sunday at the end of the first half-- throwing short dump off passes to run out the clock rather than trying to win or score for fear that he might look bad trying to win. It evoked a comment from a professional QB Aikman who was puzzled why McNabb wouldn't take a shot at trying to score in that situation.
    jtj06
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:19 AM, 01/05/2010
    I Hate Winning and Making the playoffs every year, I cant wait for the Kolb and the 2-14 Decade to begin.....
    5isthebestEagleEver
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:19 AM, 01/05/2010
    True Eagles Fans!!! These haters have always hated McNabb, they will harp on the negative and make excuses for the positives. If Don had a ring they would still complain. Is McNabb the only QB without a ring. You can apply these same faults to a lot of other QB's but you choose McNabb. These "so-called" Eagles fans don't remember what it was like after we got rid of Cunningham. They're to blinded by hate.
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:20 AM, 01/05/2010
    Has anyone ever watched Peyton Manning pout and shake his head EVERY time they don't complete a third down play. Stop trying to start controversy.
    dmac35
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:21 AM, 01/05/2010
    Wiff, wasn't his last game after his last half season? DJ will need yac because KK can't throw more than 15 yards. And who is US? Giant fans? Just trying to keep all the proclamations from Nostadumbarse straight. Please explain the discrepencies. Nah, I've already read enough BS from you today. No need to add to it.
    tpizza
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:24 AM, 01/05/2010
    hodges8476 = Dave Spadaro
    Philly_Cheesesteak
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:26 AM, 01/05/2010
    barefoot....are you 12 or just plain stupid....or both? That shot was taken with 1 minute to go, you moron. The game was over. Get a damn clue.
    philly449
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:27 AM, 01/05/2010
    dmac35, you are correct and where is the controversy over Pman throwing his coach under the bus Sunday. This is the same Pman that threw his O line under the bus after a playoff loss. I guess St.Peyton can do no wrong. BTW, why no contraversy over Brett Farce throwing a TD pass on 4th down when his team was already up 34-0? Can't you hear it if DM had done that. Apparently if you are Farce you can pile on and go for stats and that's OK too. No double standard there. Yeah, right.
    tpizza
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:31 AM, 01/05/2010
    tpizza...sorry the optimism did not work last week....but we're winning this game Saturday....there's still much to be optimistic about....that was not Bird football...not even close. Dallas will be in for a major fight this Sat.....Romo still has ZERO playoff victories....the pressure is on big-time for Romo....and he's due for a typical "Romo" performance. I'm not buying into this notion that he's turned the corner until he can actually win in the tournament...GO EAGLES!!!
    philly449
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:33 AM, 01/05/2010
    Ahh, Philly talk radio up to its usual stuff stirring up negativity and so many people are buying into it.
    jdr527
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:35 AM, 01/05/2010
    So much of this is a TV creation with the tight shots & reaction shots & slo-mo. DeSean never saw Donovan's facial expression and vice-versa. And the fact is - IT DIDN'T MATTER. What did matter was the X's & O's and whether or not they were properly executed or the players were creative & innovative in responding to circumstances. Instead, like baseball, we never get a view of the field - just closeups of faces. It ain't a movie. I'd rather see the defensive scheme immediately after the play with coverage indicated or a shot of the blocking assignments & routes run, etc. instead of the soap opera drama about whose facial expression means what - but I guess that would require knowledge of the game & the ability to communicate beyond platitudes & cliches - not TV's strength. That's why going to the game is better.
    Ed3
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:35 AM, 01/05/2010
    all in all,I didn't think the Eagles played that bad of a game.Dallas played a better game due to the defenses threw at themin the first half.the Eagles blitz in the first half,it might have been a different outcome.Coulda,shoulda,woulda.......
    kenr
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:36 AM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb is as consistent as any other QB in the league, but other QB's had receivers to make up for there bad days. Kurt Warner threw almost as many int's as TD's with the greatest show on turf. Eli doesn't have a ring because he stepped up. He has a ring because Kevin Boss, Plaxico Burress and David Tyree stepped up. Kurt Warner has a ring because the defense stepped up on that last drive. And Tom Brady hasn't won a SB since "Spygate".
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:36 AM, 01/05/2010
    drnnat....dude, enough about Dawk....he blew the NFC title game with his wiff....remember????!!! This is about coaching and execution....spare us with the leadership BS when it comes to McNabb....all of these players (Dmac included, obviously) need to make plays based on good playcalling from the coaches....that's how you win.
    philly449
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:37 AM, 01/05/2010
    I'll compare McNabb's waving and shaking his is arms to Hamel's waving and shaking his arms. They are both wrong. Your teammates are trying, sometimes things don't work out like you want them to. How many more days until spring training?
    phillyart
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:39 AM, 01/05/2010
    If I was a Quarterback of the caliber McNabb claims to be and get shut down, I would be feeling miserable and would be blaming myself considering myself incompetent. Oh Well, I'm not a QB of that caliber, but yet again I am a hard core fan and feel ashamed to be beaten that bad by the Cowgirls. As other bloggers have posted, D-Mac is not a big game QB. He constantly chokes and pukes whenever he needs to bring his A game. He missed a ton of passes he should have made, so the fault is not entirely on the rest of the offense. He should be held accountable as well for this loss and he should be the first one to admit it. There is no brilliance on his ability to raise above level when things don't go as expected. That's what make the Bradys, Montanas, and Aikmans true WINNERS.
    CapitanesFua
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:42 AM, 01/05/2010
    In all of this McNabb hating, I haven't heard anybody talking about Sean McDermott's gutless defensive scheme that let the cowboys hold the ball for 41 minutes. How can McNabb get in a rythem when he gets the ball 2 times a quarter?
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:44 AM, 01/05/2010
    Clowns and others want to make this into a racial issue. It is not, so stop taking shots at Kolb (who has btw, averaged over 300 yds passing in his 2 starts) when someone has legitimate criticism of McNabb.
    ras#2
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:45 AM, 01/05/2010
    I don't know who's more pathetic, clueless radio clowns like Harry Mays who try to create controversy where none exists in an attempt make themselves sound good? Oh and by the way, who the heck is Harry Mays to question anyone about anything? I mean really who is he? This town is producing these radio trolls like weeds these days. Or the mindless Donovan haters who couldn't spell quarterback if you gave them a crib sheet, let alone know how to play the game. But amazingly they can tell you every word exchanged between Donovan and his teammates not to mention the ability to read his mind all from the comfort of their homes I should add. I guess they're equally pathetic.
    JLH
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:45 AM, 01/05/2010
    Who needs the SEPTA website...McNabb knows the bus schedule
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:47 AM, 01/05/2010
    clownstotheright, I see you remembered the same point about Pman and his O line. Brady does his share of whining too but he has the advantage of being even MORE protected than Pman. Tuck rule? Please. Brady hurt? NEW RULE!! Bardy's team needs a win, OK just give him a TD despite the ball not going over the goal line. No more coddled player in the NFL than him. BTW, wasn't that Brady chastising Moss on the sidelines? Dress down a teammate in public? OUTRAGEOUS, oh wait...HE'S A LEADER! Ridiculous. LJL, Dawk lead his team to what this year? He had how many rings here? He contributed what in big game situations? 'Nuff said.
    tpizza
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:47 AM, 01/05/2010
    In addition to having a poor game plan, offensively and defensively, McNabb flat out stunk up the place. McNabb, has always been an inconsistent passer and Sunday's loss further confirms this issue. I have never been a fan of McNabb, I always thought he was over rated as a NFL quaterback. Keep Vick and Kolb and let them dule it out for the starting job. McNabb is backup material at best.
    empiricist
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:49 AM, 01/05/2010
    Hodge...the defense handed McChoke a pick...what did he do with it????nothing, like his comments about the kids....A vet should protect them.....Kolb will make those long throws, he di in the two games he started while McRib ate ice cream at home....McSlob is a loser...last game Staurday for McGone
    SkipinWV
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:52 AM, 01/05/2010
    A lot of what the fans react to is the way the information is presented by you guys, the media. The fans get their hate on for McNabb because of the quotes in the paper and the sound bites heard on the radio. The media stirs it up. Now, two days later, after all the hubbub regarding McNabb's quote about the young guys, it is more in context. However, it does not relieve McNabb of the responsibility of turning in another in a long series of lackluster performances in hugh games. It is much more difficult now to win three on the road as a wild card team when the division championship, a first round bye and a home game was in your grasp. Why doesn't McNabb get it? I am more than ready for him to go, and for Kolb or someone else who can actually lead, and throw a football accurately to step in next season. This one, in case anyone is waiting for the Saturday results, is toast.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:53 AM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb Blows
    madnvocal
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:59 AM, 01/05/2010
    I've seen Brady and Manning show frustration on the field after the WR's drop a few passes; of that's right...seldom does Brady's or Mannings WR's drop 7 balls.....Bottom linel BASH MCNABB, BASH MCNABB, BASH MCNABB....HE is the reason your coach burns time outs as if they were trash, HE is the reason the coachs nutz shrivel if they can't jump out to a 21 point lead..therefore abandoning the run (see Super Bowl and most NFC Championship box scores; See Oakland this year; HE is the reason the Eagles have had NFL WR's on the roster for 2.5 years of the Franchises career; Dawk was the leader, cuz as a grown man, he acts like Wolverine....isn't that mature!!...if you watch the tape of the fumbled snap; notice how fast the nose tackle blows past the back up center; I know, McNabb shoudla fielded the ball and taken the hit INSTEAD of trying to get the ball in his hands quickly throw the ball on yet another stupid obvious shotgun pass attempt....McNabb haters are dilusional at best...Can't wait for the Bobby Hoying II era to start...Remember, Bobby had a great game or two until film was out..just like film has been out on Andy's same ol' 11 year scripts....I guess the Cowboys were "suprised" to see the Djax reverse on the first play..SUPER SMART that was...NOT....
    RoastedBird
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:01 PM, 01/05/2010
    This loss was in NO WAY McNabb's fault. he missed a couple throws, but so does every QB in the course of a game. Dropped passes and bad defense is what lost this game. NOT MCNABB.
    mlane2228
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:02 PM, 01/05/2010
    Skip, The pick was nice, but the D "handed him a pick" at about his own 15 (at best) after the Cowboys drove at will for about 7 minutes, after an opening drive where they shoved it down our throats for a td. Look, McNabb and the O needed to do better, but really...other than mistakes, the Cowboys looked like they could have scored at will in the first half.
    MG44
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:03 PM, 01/05/2010
    Hey SkipinWV, they also hand the Cowboys 41 minute time of possession. The defense didn't play, the O-line didn't play and the receiver didn't play. Out of all of that you noticed two bad throws and a fumble that wasn't entirely his fault. Thank You for proving why coaches shouldn't listen to fans. I'm sorry "So-Called Fans"
    hodges8476
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:03 PM, 01/05/2010
    I Hate Winning and Making the playoffs every year, I cant wait for the Kolb and the 2-14 Decade to begin.....
    5isthebestEagleEver
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:05 PM, 01/05/2010
    the eagles will be winners Sat if the following happens---1/McNabb takes his happy/smiley pills, 2/McNabb drinks some prune juice before the game so he dosn't waddle so much going up to the huddle, 3/the eagles pry LJ Smith away from the Ravens for this important game, 4/don't use Weaver or McCoy at all-just Westbrook, & 5/reactivate Shawn and start and play the Andrew brothers the whole game---s sure win for the eagles(this is not a joke)
    jwatson
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:05 PM, 01/05/2010
    I didnt see Desean do a thing on Sunday, He got NOTHING on Kick returns either.
    5isthebestEagleEver
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:06 PM, 01/05/2010
    ya know what bothers me is that everything is sooo over blown. Does anyone in the media make mention that his "we showed our youth" comment was in direct response to a question about the team's youth & inexperience in playoffs & big games? Does anyone play the soundbite of the very first sentence of his press conference which was ..."I take full blame. Its on me. I have to play better." .....the answer to both those questions is .....NOOOOOO! Did Five play good ? ...NO. not at all. But this is a team game & we lost that game as a team. Name it ...DLine, OLine, dropped passes, Coaching mistakes, gambling CBs, more LB play, Missed FG, = TEAM LOSS!
    crazycurt623
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:14 PM, 01/05/2010
    When Jackson's telling you that he took McNabb's comments as "the young guys need to step it up", there is no controversy. Again, the media's stirring things up again. They all need to play better, including McNabb and the coaching staff. 'Nuff said.
    beegal99
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:15 PM, 01/05/2010
    CapitanesFua, Brady had the other teams plays, Montana has Jerry Rice and Aikmon has Micheal Irvin (and I'm just naming one receiver each). McNabb has done more with less than any other QB in history. Where is McNabb's hall of fame receiver? T.O. played 2 half seasons, 1/2 + 1/2 = 1 so I don't want to hear anything about Terrell Owens. Those QB's were all winners, their supporting cast made them Champions.
    hodges8476
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:18 PM, 01/05/2010
    Hey LoserWolf how is your so called best QB in the NFL Sheli Manning doing???? Is she being rooted out of NY yet by you gay Giants fans????
    5isthebestEagleEver
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:18 PM, 01/05/2010
    For all you whiners who think Peyton is so "classy" and does not throw his teammates under the bus......at least DM hasn't sunk to this level: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1piy8Zxddw&feature=related
    clownstotheright
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:22 PM, 01/05/2010
    You win is a team and you lose as a team. Plain and Simple. McNabb Haters are just poor losers. This lose starts with Defense. You can't give 10 points up on the first two drives on the road. You can't do it and expect to win. You can't do it and expect your QB to win you the game, especially with a good Defense like Dallas. Eagles can win this, but the defense has to keep the score close for McNabb and Co.
    ChrisM
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:22 PM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb needs to be a leader in this situation and he blew it... His scattershot arm, lack of being able to find the open man (the Eagles recievers were open) were big contributors to the loss. Does anyone think that the Eagles should not be able to score better than 28 points on the cowboys? This is what needs to happen... McNabb needs to be much more accurate, they need to roll him out to make it tougher for the Cowboys to focus their pass rush. Then need to run draws to weaver more to keep the pass rush honest. They need to put pressure on Romo and stop the run (mostly, the D-line needs to man up). This is a tall order, but I believe they can do it. Go Eagles!
    chrisrr
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:23 PM, 01/05/2010
    Tpizza: I agree with all your points. People need to show some respect. They complain about his completion percentage, yet no one talks about how he has one of the lowest interception ratios in the history of the game. I'd much rather have a QB who throws balls away than a Brett Favre trying to throw into double and triple coverage and turning the ball over
    clownstotheright
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:24 PM, 01/05/2010
    Yawn.....more stupid media nonsense. McNabb didn't hold a press conference seeking to blame anyone for the loss..and McNabb never throws teammates under the bus. He was asked one loaded question whether the team showed it's youth. Obviously, whoever in the media that asked the question already concluded that the Eagles made mistakes due to their youth. Like so many of these press conference "questions", McNabb wasn't really asked to give a reason for the mistakes...instead, McNabb was simply asked to agree with the media person's opinion. Then you guys go run back and forth between players and coaches with soundbytes and quotes taken out of context to try to stir up trouble. The sports media of today contributes little more than gossip, speculation and a Jerry Springer-like effort to create controversy where none exists. Hmmm, and you wonder why players and coaches don't like talking to you guys?
    JimG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:25 PM, 01/05/2010
    He won't after this Saturday...The question will be...What team is interested in a Fat has been???
    SkipinWV
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:27 PM, 01/05/2010
    Eagles fans are Drama Queens... Period. This is coming from an Eagles fan.
    5isthebestEagleEver
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:29 PM, 01/05/2010
    It does'nt matter who QBs for this team the so call fans will find something wrong with them in the end.For 6 wks we did'nt hear a peep from ya haters and now the floodgates are wide open.Hopefully #5 can end his career somewhere that appreciates a great QB.Look at all the teams over the past 10 yrs that don't have winning records.Be happy we got a winning coach and QB or moved to Cleveland
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:31 PM, 01/05/2010
    whenever #5 makes a face after a dropped ball or a bad route on the recievers part he's critized but if Manning or Brady does it it's call passion and being a leader. He simply can't win in that situation. I agree he has to play better but all of the QB's do the same thing and personally, I think Manning is the worst when it comes to showing up his recievers.
    forjustice20
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:31 PM, 01/05/2010
    The last time I checked, DeSean Jackson tied the record with 8 TD of 50 yards or more and made the Pro Bowl with #5 as primarily his QB. And DeSean didn’t play the whole schedule and the last few days he wasn’t playing at 100% and still put big time numbers. Saying he prefers Kolb throwing passes to him over McNabb is another ridiculous comment from the clueless guy on this board.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:31 PM, 01/05/2010
    For all you Donovan haters: How many SuperBowls has Brady won since he was caught CHEATING?? Brady = CHEATER, Donovan = Real QB, on an average at best team.
    5isthebestEagleEver
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:37 PM, 01/05/2010
    So all this talk, as usual, about the "haters"... now it's about time the McNabb lovers start to "be real", he's not a leader, never was, never will be, and the sad thing is, he's getting worse with time. Now his mouth is getting him in trouble. C'mon lovers cover his back...
    nobodycares
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:39 PM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb smiles when he overthrows or under throws a receiver but then throws his arms up when a receiver drops a pass. He cant have it both ways. If he throws another goose egg this week, then I'm all for starting fresh with Kolb next season. I cant take the heartbreak year after year. As a season ticket holder it's frustrating getting pumped for the Eagles. I love how people want to blame the race card, but facts are facts. No championships in 11 years, when we have been to the NFC championship 5 times. He is a good QB but not great, and good enough doesn't fly with me when I'm dishing out 700 bucks a year to see heartbreak, year after year.
    irishlaxer
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:40 PM, 01/05/2010
    time for a new QB
    jimmy@22
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:42 PM, 01/05/2010
    It wasn't ALL McNabb's fault. On Sunday, there was no running game, no passing game, no consistent, smothering defense-- except from Dallas. Eagles might still lose Sat. night, but this fan would appreciate seeing some strong battle from this Eagle team, not sniping and fingerpointing and hanging heads and throwing up hands. It's a team sport afterall. I'm into moral victories, even when they don't win. But if they do figure out how to beat that Dallas team and get enough luck to do it Sat. night, won't that be sweet!
    Phillyhomer
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:43 PM, 01/05/2010
    "Before the Donovan haters get too wound up" - so that makes you a Donovan McNabb hater if you take issue with him pinning the loss on the young players? Also, can't there be a happy medium between laughing, smiling ear to ear and looking like all is lost and the football field is the last place you want to be? I am glad he clarified his statement and I am very glad he put some of the blame on his shoulders. When Donovan struggles like he did on Sunday, regardless of the failures of the coaching staff or the defense, we have no shot to win. He is a fine player but no one can deny that he is streaky. Let's hope he can find his mojo and stick it to the Cowboys this Saturday, especially after they rubbed it in last game.
    johndenny
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:59 PM, 01/05/2010
    Anybody that doesn't like McNabb is a hater. He is the greatest and I have a poster of him on my ceiling.
    5sthebestEagleEver
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:03 PM, 01/05/2010
    Do you people really think kevin kolb will ever be an even average nfl quarterback? Aside from maybe three players who else would you have rather had at quarterback for the last ten years? mcnabb is a lot better than this city gives him credit for
    oldboy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:05 PM, 01/05/2010
    Whining is in the eye of the beholder. Some think it is and some think it isn't. Honestly, many players show their emotions at the moment, it's natural. But McNabb needs to be more careful when choosing his words. After this long, you would think he'd know better. Bottom line, the whole team got outplayed and I don't see them going very far even if by some miracle they beat the Boys. I hope I'm wrong though. Go Birds!
    fogboy10
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:05 PM, 01/05/2010
    Keep in mind TRUE Eagles fans, these are the same morons that hated Schmidt in his finest years, and embraced the likes of Iverson. I dont get it, should Mcnabb tat up and be a thug loser with "personality" and "heart"?????? Really, do you people think before you type? Mcnabb is, has been, and always be a class act, sadly though, it seems that this city is content with being classless buffoons. Heres the neat thing, i'm from there, and have been gone since 2000.......GRATEFULLY!
    greekeagle
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:06 PM, 01/05/2010
    out coached both sides of the ball....out done in acquiring backups...(duh...injuries happen so you better be prepared and not be too stingy on backups) out schemed, out prepared....out talented....(GM has done a lousy job on our offensive line (andrews sisters, peters) out of his element in big games......you can blame Mcnabb because he did not have a good game....but the bulls-eye belongs onthe back of one Andy Reid.....and since he is accountable to no one....why should we expect anything different......Thanks Jeffery for giving him an extension after 11 years of failing to win the only things that counts....
    nuggett
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:08 PM, 01/05/2010
    People. People. So every time the receivers drop a ball it's the QB fault. The entire offense didn't do squat. This include McNabb but it was a team loss. Do you people see the game play by play?
    knmcmahon
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:12 PM, 01/05/2010
    I believe McNabbs' comment was "we showed our youth" He didn't specifically say the receivers didn't play good. You know people love to twist things around to start controversies. Andy Reid should have used Avant and Celek more. Also, where is Kevin Curtis?
    knmcmahon
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:20 PM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb has a cumulative passer rating in three conference championship games of 50.5 - a figure that is approximately 10 points lower than what the worst quarterback in the league earns over the course of a typical year - but he is still the greatest and anybody that says otherwise is a hater.
    5sthebestEagleEver
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:23 PM, 01/05/2010
    philly10 - I disagree. Granted McNabb did miss some passes - he always does - when the passes were there, the receivers dropped them anyway. the QB can only do so much. When is the last time you saw Brady or Farve run a pass route...
    jaidubb
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:25 PM, 01/05/2010
    phillysportswriterssuck: The haters don't want to give McNabb any credit and just want to keep him down. If he was white he would already be in the hall of fame.
    5sthebestEagleEver
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:28 PM, 01/05/2010
    Haters will hate the next five years McNabb as Eagles QB :-) Like it or not he is here to stay :-) If you are a real Eagles fan, support the team; that includes McNabb....
    Seed
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:32 PM, 01/05/2010
    Why does Mcabb always look bloated? He has a horse head also. He'd make a good chia pet.
    montcomotion
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:34 PM, 01/05/2010
    irishlaxer: You are a liar! Donovan does not smile when he makes bad throws. Stop posting lies to stir up bad feelings... loser!
    Bigbadrookie
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:37 PM, 01/05/2010
    mcnabb throw a teammate under the bus??..never! except last year when he threw the defense under the bus after the arizona loss, saying something to the effect "i brought us back in the 4th qtr but the D really let us down."
    Fire Andy Reid
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:39 PM, 01/05/2010
    19 times division teams have met in the playoffs when 1 team has won both regular season games - 12 times it was a 3-0 sweep. The odds are against us. I'm tired of hearing how hard it is to win 3 games in one year against the same opponent. I know one thing - if they don't put Romo on his back a few times - it will be a long night. Every NFL QB can pick apart any defense if the rush is missing. The Iggles average starting position on offense was the 20. PATHETIC.
    jhjack
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:39 PM, 01/05/2010
    It's time to move on with a new era! McNabb is done and the sooner everyone accepts this fact we will be a better team. If we lose on Sunday against Dallas than #5 needs to be released and we all need to move on.
    Philly_Avenger
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:42 PM, 01/05/2010
    Bigbadrookie--I don't know what game u were watching but when he overthrew DJack he smiled and it looked like he was laughing that off. That missed play was huge. Maybe watch the game instead of reading about it on a computer. Dope.
    irishlaxer
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:42 PM, 01/05/2010
    philly10- I got an extra keyboard, I think at this point, its obvious your cap lock button is broken.
    Will.i.Am
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:44 PM, 01/05/2010
    Stop it Stop it Stop it Stop it! When Brady or Manning do it it's "Constructive" - when McNabb Does it it's something a 6 year old does. He gets slammed when he smiles. He gets slammed when he shows frustration. He gets slammed when he stays calm and shows no emotion. When he overthrew Jackson he showed tons of frustration, and it was all on him. He's frustrated at the missed opportunity. You want to talk 6 year old? How about the peformance that Koy Detmer put on trying to show up Farve. But no, that made him a hero around here. That was the most classless, over the top immature thing I've ever seen - over 1 pass. Or how about the way Garcia would "sternly repremand" players, and his over the top, broadway antics? You all loved that. No sir - you hate McNabb, plain and simple. Which is fine. Hate him. But stop trying to justify that distate will all this bullcr*p. It's fake, disingenuine, and we're all sick of it. Be a man, step up, and admit you just don't like the man. Then move on with your lives.
    Pheagles Fan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:47 PM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb threw his team under the bus with postgame comments? You mean no one saw them under the bus when they could not score or catch Sunday?
    mongoS
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:49 PM, 01/05/2010
    We're spoiled. Familiarity breeds contempt. We're sick of the same old story...I get it, but how about a little perspective here? We all want to win the "big" one, but don't you have to win your share of regular season games and playoff games before the championship game in order to get there? I know...games aren't considered "big games" unless the Eagles lose them. I understand...this weekend's game in Dallas was a "big game" (because they lost) but last year's playoff games in Minnesota and in the Meadowlands were not big games. I get it. McNabb and Reid ALWAYS fail in "big" games....how silly of me.
    reils
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:53 PM, 01/05/2010
    5sthebestEagleEver....That's a poster of him on your bedroom ceiling. And no, if he were white he would have been cut 8 years ago with a big vote of no confidence. Good thing he has Daddy Andy there to coddle him through life.
    Voytas
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:01 PM, 01/05/2010
    I guess people here missed Brady slamming his helmet onto the bench in frustration or Manning's obvious frustrations when being sat down during their loss to the Jets. If McNabb smiles and says everythings good people are mad, if he's upset, people are mad. If McNabb says I can't make people happy, people are mad. The entire team didn't come to play. McNabb responded to a question about the youth on the team not about the entire teams play. It's ridiculous the amount of criticism this guy takes when all he does is take his team to the playoffs and gives us a chance to win. Go cry to Miami, Oakland, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo, Carolina, San Fransico, St. Louis, Washington, and Tampa Bay fans about how bad our QB is.
    datbo215
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:01 PM, 01/05/2010
    Like it or not, McNabb is not only the best QB in Eagles history, he's basically a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame. Look up his stats and you will see his numbers are on par with or better than many Hall of Famers. He's won 9 playoff games and been to 5 pro bowls. He's played on a broken leg, he's overcome several major knee injuries, and he has led the most productive era in Eagles history (and many years done it with mediocre talent around him). He's never been involved in any off the field BS...Why does Philly hate this guy so much??? Granted he's never won a SuperBowl, but neither did Jaws, Buddy or Vermeil and they are beloved in this town. Someone please explain this to me!
    nwphillyguy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:03 PM, 01/05/2010
    reils- U dont get it. Last Sundays game was a big game. The Eagles would have gained 2nd place in the NFC and received a bye. It's very hard to come into Philly during Jan when the wind chill would be in the teens. Now we have to go on the road and win three games. It's not impossible but a highly unlikely feat. And please people, stop playing the race card. I have been a McNabb fan for his entire career here. I've had his jersey since his rookie year. It's actually the only jersey I have ever bought. I just feel we need a new direction.
    irishlaxer
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:12 PM, 01/05/2010
    I could care less about the soup opera that the press is constantly trying to manufacture. Winning is the only thing that matters. I've never seen so many men act so childishly. Complaining that McNabb made a face? Stick to your afternoon soap operas if you want drama and leave sports talk to the men.
    MikeP
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:19 PM, 01/05/2010
    JLJ, when you tell your kid, or your protege, or the new kid at work 20 friggin times (or 200 friggin) times what to do and how to do it, what do you do? When you're frustrated, to go suck on a lollipop? Sorry, not me. After awhile, you have to show that you're fed up, that you're not happy, constructive criticsm only goes so far. Some times, you just have to take 'em to the wood shed. I don't have a problem with what McNabb did on the field, because, quite frankly, I was doing the same thing 2,000 miles away in my living room, just like all of you. And speaking of constructive criticsm, most of you would benefit greatly to practice what you preach. Then pack your stuff up and move to New England, or Indianapolis or San Diego or Dallas then you'll be happy. Just don't go to Cleveland or LA or....
    eagledon
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:20 PM, 01/05/2010
    irishlaxer--I never said Sunday wasn't a big game. It was. They've also won PLENTY of big games. That's my point. Everyone on here is going "chicken little" and makes absurd proclamations about how the Eagles "always" choke in big games. That's absurd.
    reils
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:21 PM, 01/05/2010
    "5sthebest..." - why do you only brign up three of the championships McNabb played in? Oh, to skew the stats...sounds familiar. His real passer rating is at 72, which is by no means awesome, but apparently not bad enough for you to make an argument. While we are skewing stats, let's remove the game against Carolina when his rib was cracked on a rediculous late hit (that went uncalled) and he went on ot have a 19.3 rating. Without that game his average is at a 85 passer rating.
    Lephtee9
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:23 PM, 01/05/2010
    Oh...and ask Tampa circa 2002 and Carolina circa 2003 how hard it is to come into Philly and win...not that I didn't want the win and the bye because having to play two games to get to the Super Bowl is better than having to play three....but the pass-pass-pass Eagles are better suited to play in places like Dallas, New Orleans and indoors in the Metrodome than in Philly anyway....
    reils
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:25 PM, 01/05/2010
    All those people that are complaining about McNabb showing frustration were screaming at the TV, catch the %$#%$#% ball you idiot. As previous posts have eloquently stated, no emotion from McNabb, haters hate, emotion, haters hate, of course if it was Kevin Kolb screaming at a receiver we would call that leadership
    notch44
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:27 PM, 01/05/2010
    I'll take a guy who hates to lose over a guy who likes to win anyday! I'm glad he's showing the emotion. Aikman, Manning, Marino... all did the same and nobody was complaining when they did it... just another reason to jump on McNabb... get a life.
    14philly
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:31 PM, 01/05/2010
    Sorry. He had torn cartilage in his ribs.
    Lephtee9
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:40 PM, 01/05/2010
    Did we all forget how we killed the cardinals in the reg season, then they beat us in the playoffs
    peteike
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:43 PM, 01/05/2010
    Kolb are you Kidding? as for the Blame I flat out blame Andy Reid For not preparing. I also blame McDermott for not BLitzing and playing zone Coverage. You can't play Zone against the Cowboys. I am willing to bet this game will be physical than the last. BLITZ BLITZ BLITZ!
    phillieseagles4life
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:46 PM, 01/05/2010
    Wolf - right on target my man....under the bus is his "style"....what city will the lackies migrate to next year when they have no car to wash, bags to carry, snow to shovel, or lawn to mow. Mc Stink has a real following of people who feel the personal need to defend the defenseless....the all have wanna be syndrome...pathetic sycophants.....also, the idiot who thinks automatic lock for HOF...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...more like Hall of Overrated (HOO) HOO te HOO
    SkipinWV
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:49 PM, 01/05/2010
    Dmac, When will you act like a vet? I support you, but I would take a little less flash for a more consistant production. Yes he has the numbers, but so did Cal Ripken, the compiler.
    cm3737
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:49 PM, 01/05/2010
    Comments from McNabb haters will never stop no matter what he does. They would rather see an unknown take the Eagles over, then berate him if he doesn't do well. You won't know what you have until it's gone when McNabb leaves. Yes, he does miss passes, and yes he sometimes doesn't take responsibility for his play, but tell me what QB doesn't do this. I've seen Manning, Brady especially, and others do the same thing...get over it. The Eagles have been besieged with injuries, especially on defense. The Birds have had a good year so far with all this happening. They played poorly last week, but they have an opportunity to exact revenge this weekend. If we win will the "haters" be commenting or will they be silenced??? Just be glad your not one of the other franchises that hasn't won a playoff game, or a winning season in 10 or more years. There are many!!! Go Birds...
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:49 PM, 01/05/2010
    Be nice if the sports writers did some real work and ID'd exactly what happened. Did the receivers miss routes? Or did McNabb miss the receivers. Was pass blocking bad on no one open (can't block forever). Romo did have all day so Eagles pass rush looked bad. I'd like to see the sportswriters demonstrate some expertise and point out the same things that the coaches and players all know when they watch the tapes. I know four big play misses by McNabb were killers. Missing open D.Jackson for a touchdown. Throwing behind MacLin for key 1st down. Fumbling ball snap that hit him in the hands. Fumbling when trying to pass while being sacked. McNabbs two fumbles were 10 points. McNabb is right it starts with him. When he has bad games. Eagles lose. I think he had a bad game but then Romo had a running game to help him and McNabb did not. As for getting rid of McNabb or Reid, don't be crazy. For the guy complaining about Eagles ruining his parties, Dude! Eagles with Reid and McNabb have given fans more wins and more playoff games than just about any other team over last 10 years. Certainly in the top five. They have given us more "parties" than if we were following any other team. I'd trade with Indy or Patriots fans maybe but that's about it over last 10 years.
    EaglesPDX
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:51 PM, 01/05/2010
    DMac showing his frustration was a mistake. But, consider where he is in his career and what was at stake. How many more years does he have to get a ring? You think he's as big a baby as Farve? Probably not, but if I had been pummeled the way he was, I might be a tiny bit miffed. It's Andy's job to be the diplomat. It's Don's job to get it done, and if you spend the day looking out of the ear-hole in your helmet, its a tougher job. How 'bout some protection guys! And once he scores 24 - 35 points, maybe we could do some tackling and whack some receivers sometime!
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:52 PM, 01/05/2010
    McNabb ----- what a laughable spin-control artist! He should spend as much time learning how to make plays and avoid 24-0 thrashings as he does in prattling to the media and throwing his teammates under the bus. THIS GUY IS NO LEADER!
    jman
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:58 PM, 01/05/2010
    "Haters hate" and fawners fawn
    JamesJ
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:58 PM, 01/05/2010
    "Haters hate" and fawners fawn
    JamesJ
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:21 PM, 01/05/2010
    mcnabb is not only the worst QB is franchise history, he is probably the worst QB in NFL history. he is so inaccurate he never completes passes. he whines in the media even though they bait him with dumb questions. he has never accomplished anything. he couldn't carry koy detmer's jock. kevin kolb should be the starter. in fact, kold should be inducted to the pro football hall of fame.
    GoPhils09
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:45 PM, 01/05/2010
    WHO CARES WHAT MCNABB SAID? THEY TOOK IT OUT OF CONTEXT. ALL I CARE ABOUT IS WINNING THE GAME THIS SUNDAY. REPORTERS AND TALK-SHOW HOSTS NEED TO FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO TALK ABOUT.
    Oak31
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:58 PM, 01/05/2010
    Can we please stop with these idiotic "first initial/half of last name" nicknames? I cannot take it anymore. No more "D-Jax", "D-Mac", "B-West","B-Dawk",or even "J-Roll". It is not clever and it sounds ungodly. Enough with the dumbing-down of society. Use their names...that's why they have them.
    UncleEddie
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:05 PM, 01/05/2010
    You guys kill me with your race card b.s The fact is, McNabb is old, has not led the team to the big dance even while surrounded by talent on both sides of the ball. This guy's time has come and gone. Race has nothing to do with it.
    stink-gull
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:28 PM, 01/05/2010
    I think the issue with #5 this past weekend is that he tried to do something so uncharacteristic of this person.....That being of trying to be a leader (which he is not).......Is he a cheerleader? (no), Does he lead by example? (no).....is he afraid to admit his mistsakes? (yes)......does he bother with the defense? (no)....has he made comments after a game that he played well? (yes).......Is there the letter 'I" in team? (no)....... Has he thrown people under the bus? (yes) Are the young players making mistakes? (yes).....Is Desean going to the Pro Bowl? (yes).....Does he "hang" with the team on the sidelines or is he sitting on the bench with head in a towel? (sometimes)........Does he appear to talk down to people in press conferences? (yes).........perhaps Donovan ought to read leadership books by Druker.......he may learn something that he thinks he already knows.
    ox
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:28 PM, 01/05/2010
    Lephtee9 what the flying F are you talking about you Drunk Moron.....
    5isthebestEagleEver
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:39 PM, 01/05/2010
    I hate Winning and making the playoffs every year, I cant wait for the
    5isthebestEagleEver