Phillies fire three coaches
WASHINGTON — Moments after Game 162 ended, the Phillies commenced what could be a winter of change. First-base coach Sam Perlozzo will not be retained, GM Ruben Amaro Jr. announced at Nationals Park.
Phillies fire three coaches
Matt Gelb
WASHINGTON — Moments after Game 162 ended, the Phillies commenced what could be a winter of change. First-base coach Sam Perlozzo will not be retained, GM Ruben Amaro Jr. announced at Nationals Park.
An hour later, the team revealed bench coach Pete Mackanin and hitting coach Greg Gross were not returning.
The three moves ostensibly create a chance for Hall of Famer Ryne Sandberg to join the staff in 2013.
Coincidentally, team president David Montgomery traveled from Philadelphia and spent time meeting with Amaro and Manuel on Wednesday.
Perlozzo was a member of Manuel's staff for four seasons.
"It's definitely not what he did," Manuel said. "I look at him as a great teacher and tremendous coach. When you want to do some things, people on your staff, they're the ones who have to be let go or moved. That's the position it's in. It's something the organization felt we're going to go that way."
Manuel and Amaro were not available for comment following the announcement of Mackanin's and Gross' fates. Mackanin was bench coach for four years. Gross was hitting coach for two and a half seasons.
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Ok boys, it's time for Pink Slips -- step right up when you hear your name: Diekman, Lindblom, Papelbon, Howard, Orr, Polanco, Wiggington, Martinez, Mayberry, Nix, Brown.— Al n SD- Amazing, they make changes after the last game and it's not enough for people already. They are showing changes ARE ahead for heaven's sake. Let them try to fix things and have some patience.....— chescoguy
- Don't forget, they actually started throwing out the trash a few days ago, when they removed Schneider from the 40-man to make room for a pitcher. — jman
- All those coaches could get jobs at the Inquirer if they're willing to work for peanuts.— Wilhelm Von Humboldt
- Value of current players acquired or re-signed by Rube -- on a scale of 0 to 10 ("value" calculated based on current expectations of future performance in relation to salary; thus if player could not be traded unless majority of salary is assumed by Phils, this decreases value substantiallly):
Howard: 1 (no team would take him unless Phils paid almost all his remaining salary)
Rollins: 3 (Phils would have to pay substantial portion of salary
Polanco: 0
Mayberry: 1
Schneider: 0
Martinez:0
Frandsen: 2
Wigginton: 0
Nix: 0
Schierholz: 1
Orr: 0
Pierre: 2
Hamels: 8
Lee: 5 (burdened by salary)
Halladay: 1 (close to worthless right now)
Kendrick: 2
Papelbon: 2
Lindblom: 1
Horst: 2
Herndon:0
Contreras: 0
that's why I say Rube collects useless trash -- not a single player acquired by Rube currently has any substantial value other than Lee (and he is burdened by oversized too-long contract), and the only player even re-signed by Rube with any value is Hamels (Ruiz was under team control for past year and was not a Rube "re-signing")— warbiscuit - Accurate except for Roy. You'll get 15 from him next year. — dmn
- I understand needing to make room for Sandberg.
But all three? And NOT Dubee or the manager?— VicM - Rube doing the "firings" is more absurd than replacement NFL referees evaluating referees -- rube is complete incompetent imebcile who has less ability to evaluate players or talent than 99% of the Nationals fans who watched a good team humiliate the collection of useless trash compiled for only $175 million per yr— warbiscuit
- Ryne tyme NOW!!!
- Manuel, I think, is a better manager than people give him credit for, but his time may be past for the Phillies; for him to hang around for another season is strictly a sentimental decision, which is something Dave Montgomery is known for. DO he'll be here. Amaro should try to do the hard thing: Move On. But can Amaro be trusted? Look at the team under his GM stewardship. He is the guy who stuck the Phils with Ryan Howard's albatross contract, at least a year before he had to. The nickel-and-dime free agent pick-ups, who all contributed pennies. Signing big-contract pitchers at the expense of hitters. HIs refusal to take responsibility and his willingness to blame the players. In other businesses, he would be given the broom to sweep up before he left the building. He's an articulate dude (he did go to Stanford) but where are the results?— PeterG
- Manuel couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag. In 2008, the team had multiple power hitters, and Jimy Williams strategizing on the bench. Last season, they won 102 games because Manuel had a rotation of FOUR #1 starters and a rookie (Worley) who went 11-3.
When not presented with top-notch players, Manuel wilts under the pressure to actually do something to "put his players in the best position to win".— jman - Manuel couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag. In 2008, the team had multiple power hitters, and Jimy Williams strategizing on the bench. Last season, they won 102 games because Manuel had a rotation of FOUR #1 starters and a rookie (Worley) who went 11-3.When not presented with top-notch players, Manuel wilts under the pressure to actually do something to "put his players in the best position to win". (HTML deleted) — jman
- no other g.m. in baseball has acquired less good young players over past 4 years than Clueless Rube -- because Rube has added exactly ZERO good young players to the orgnaization since taking over after 2008...while spending the highest budget in the league, Clueless Rube re-signed one quality player in the organization (Hamels) and added ZERO good young players from outside the organization..indeed 3 players whom he gave away for free (Voglesong, Brandon Moss and Grilli) are better than all but maybe 6 players on the Phils roster— warbiscuit
- Warbiscuit, why don't you ask philly.com to embed that thought up in the header, then you won't have to post it to EVERY thread on EVERY day. — jman
- You have to wonder what Dubee has on Amaro. Can't believe he's still on the staff.— benjyedwards
