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Monday, February 23, 2009
Why, it seems like just yesterday that people were calling him a company man. My, how our Donovan has grown!
 
Gone are the days when Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb asks for offensive weapons on Monday and then claims he was really asking for weapons in every phase of the game on Tuesday. Forgotten, it seems, are the times when every assertion was accompanied by three modifiers and two qualifications. The post-graduate degree he was so, so ready to put on display, his MPA (Masters of Passive Aggressiveness), has been stuffed into a drawer.
 
Because now, it seems, McNabb wants weapons or he may want out.
 
That is the gist of a report on ESPN, quoting sources (wink, wink). The story asserts that Eagles coach Andy Reid and president Joe Banner indeed had a long meeting with McNabb and agent Fletcher Smith last week, a meeting that Reid and Banner refuse to acknowledge took place.
 
Then, the key sequence: “…if the Eagles aren't successful in significantly upgrading… not only may McNabb drop his request for a new contract he may consider going as far as to ask the Eagles to trade him.”
 
And so it continues, the transformation of a quarterback. Things have been different since McNabb came back from being benched after a horrible mid-season stretch. There was the time he pointed to the name written on the back of his shoulders during that one game. And there was the time he picked up the sideline telephone for a goof. And there was the indignant assertion that the benching had nothing to do with the improvement in his play. And there was the repeated insistence that there would be this meeting after the season, and that he would be doing the talking.
 
There was a hesitancy to make too much of it, but the personality – after 10 years – was seemingly transforming before our eyes.
 
I’ve been saying and writing for a couple of months now that McNabb really has a lot of power here, if he is willing to wield it. Because there is no way the Eagles can go through a season with McNabb as their quarterback if he goes public with a trade request. Dealing with an unhappy Lito Sheppard is a pimple on the Eagles’ pigskin compared to this. On WIP, Anthony Gargano calls him McMope all the time. Can you imagine what it would be like for six months if he’s really moping?
 
If this is really how it went down – if McNabb really did the “or else” thing – it would be stunning.
 

It kind of makes you wonder what Terrell Owens thinks.

Posted by Rich Hofmann @ 8:41 PM  Permalink | 131 comments
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Posted 08:46 PM, 02/23/2009
BHite15
Marvin Harrison will be an eagles and make McNabb happy to have his former college teammate on the team.
Posted 08:47 PM, 02/23/2009
Nutburgers
"(wink, wink)" = you think McNabb or his agent leaked this?
Posted 08:48 PM, 02/23/2009
BHite15
Marvin Harrison will be an eagle and make McNabb happy to have his former college teammate on the team.
Posted 08:49 PM, 02/23/2009
albertpa
Yea Don! Hopefully they'll listen, get us some weapons, make some moves and bring home a ring to go next to that big, fat shiny Phillies ring.
Posted 08:49 PM, 02/23/2009
jazztafari
just another chapter of donna drama
Posted 08:51 PM, 02/23/2009
jdanziger
just listen to him already. get a stud WR. you win twice. not only will we not lose McNabb, but we gain a stud. everyone wins (especially the WR starved fans)
Posted 08:52 PM, 02/23/2009
Tartan69
The Eagles FO is incompetant when it comes to handling their star players. Only part of the TO situation was TO's fault...the remainder was the FO allowing it to happen. And now they're doing it again. Pathetic.
Posted 08:56 PM, 02/23/2009
Wise_Owl
I been saying that McNabb never denied wanting out, and pretty much confirmed that what deon sanders is saying is true. Trade him. Maybe we can get a Herschal Walker type trade.
Posted 09:00 PM, 02/23/2009
burholme
The team does need more weapons. They need a big RB. Upgrading receivers would help some, but McNabb isn't accurate enough anyway. The QB misses the receiver way more than the receivers drop the pass. The biggest upgrade should be in coach and playcalling.
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Posted 09:07 PM, 02/23/2009
franknbeans
too late. got a banged up westbrook who is probably on the downside of his career, aging offensive line. should have opened his mouth sooner instead of waiting this late into his career.
Posted 09:07 PM, 02/23/2009
toccheyhockey
He's not the answer regardless, but Marvin Harrison is allergic to vomit, so he couldn't be in the same huddle as Donovan anyway.
Posted 09:12 PM, 02/23/2009
wil
Hope not.
Posted 09:14 PM, 02/23/2009
dedhed
What was wrong with the offensive weapons we had last year... Does anyone remember it was a failed DEFENSIVE stop that kept us out of the SB. We don't need a stud WR, we need a stud on the line..on both sides of the ball.
Posted 09:15 PM, 02/23/2009
ddoublem
Mcnabb will always be an eagle and hopefully Harrison will soon be an Eagle to...
Posted 09:23 PM, 02/23/2009
GHem
Good move if it's true; someone needs to act to persaude AR to get receivers who can separate and catch. (Imagine how much worse our pass game would have been without Desean, who wasn't even expected to start.) McNabb would have asked to be traded by now if he really wanted to leave.
Posted 09:25 PM, 02/23/2009
kat1005
If the FO paid attention to results, they would've realized that when they had TO, they had more TD's. It's now obvious to everyone who McNabb is; an inconsistent passer who needs an easy target. If you have that, the game plan works, if not, you might as well get rid of him and try to get something in return. STOP TRYING TO MAKE 5 SOMETHING HE'LL NEVER BE! GET A WR NOW! THE WINDOW IS CLOSING!
Posted 09:27 PM, 02/23/2009
ifarrell
Harrison will be too busy in North Philly shooting people at the dive bar he owns
Posted 09:27 PM, 02/23/2009
pdditty
We dont need a Stud WR? Are you kidding me dedhed?
Posted 09:27 PM, 02/23/2009
Dean1
McNabb is a crybaby, plain and simple. As a season ticketholder for 47 years, I'd rather go 5-11 for two seasons than see another game with #5 behind C. The biggest disappointment of McNabb is that he's far and away the most talented QB this franchise has ever had. Problem: he has no heart, never takes ownership of anything, and has a ridculously thin skin. See ya Don.
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Posted 09:32 PM, 02/23/2009
clobal
Who cares...he don't have what it takes to win the big ones.total choke artist
Posted 09:39 PM, 02/23/2009
Boobirdz
NA NA NA NA....NA NA NA NA....HEY HEY HEY....GOOODBYE !!!!!
Posted 09:43 PM, 02/23/2009
JimG
More media drama. Has any athletes words (or even words attributed to him by others) been more overanalyzed than McNabb's?
Posted 09:44 PM, 02/23/2009
hessjc
Who cares. I'm sick of the whiner anyhow. I'll be shocked if he ever comes thru in the clutch for anybody anyhow.
Posted 09:49 PM, 02/23/2009
albertpa
I think Harrison would be a nice addition. Him and Desean would allow Curtis to move back to his natural slot and keeping avant in for the four down sets. Nice. TJ works here too. Beanie Wells or that Pitt back in the draft with a nice solid tackle and we look good.
Posted 09:53 PM, 02/23/2009
smush
dedhed - what was wrong was that Westbrook was terrible (hobbles). There was no backup RB on the team. They could not get a yard when needed and tere is not a TE who can block. And the defense stinks.
Posted 09:54 PM, 02/23/2009
losteagle
Mc nabb arm will not beat anyone! handing it off to a great running back system he will win! The problemsssssss is McNabb, Reid, Banner, Laurie, no running game, no top receivers! Do you think for one minute things will change with them still in place? Yhen keep drinking the "Kool Aid"
Posted 09:57 PM, 02/23/2009
rockinrob
If he wants out then let him play his last two years and send him Green Bay packing.
Posted 10:01 PM, 02/23/2009
R3
McNabb knows most Philly fans feelings for him are set in stone... unless he wins a Super Bowl. So what does he have to lose? Half this town already hates him, a bunch of teams would love to have him. If this happens to make the stubborn upper management get over their gun-shy WR selves from the T.O. debacle, then so be it, mission accomplished for Don. IF the Eagles can ever pull off what the Phillies did, nobody will care about any of this petty drama..... And Rich I enjoyed your post until the T.O. comment, weak. Oranges and apples my friend.
Posted 10:01 PM, 02/23/2009
wokmaster
Trade him to Detroit.
Posted 10:02 PM, 02/23/2009
biggie99
Everyone on here is saying goodbye, but when he is gone and we are stuck with corn on the Kolb what will everyone say then? Get the man want he wants he has been here for 10 years and has done everything thats been asked of him.
Posted 10:05 PM, 02/23/2009
philly10
DRAFT AWESOME RECEIVER PERCY HARVIN WITH 21ST PICK..TOGETHER WITH DESEAN JACKSON THE EAGLES PASSING GAME WILL BE UNSTOPPABLE FOR THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS...SEE PERCY HARVIN'S AWESOME HIGHLIGHTS ON YOUTUBE.COM
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Posted 10:16 PM, 02/23/2009
iceman
THIS JUST IN: Greg Lewis says he wants a quarterback who can run a two-minute drill or he'll demand a trade.
Posted 10:19 PM, 02/23/2009
1611kjv
So, do y'think ANY receiver can make #5 throw to them in stride, out in front of 'em, and on the money? Or instead of a #1 wr, how 'bout we think in terms of coaching him better? Maybe Daisher can work out 5's kinks and then let's see how he does.
Posted 10:22 PM, 02/23/2009
philasportsfan
McNabb stays and retires an Eagle. Harrison is way too old for this team. He'll be happy running his businesses and raising his son.
Posted 10:25 PM, 02/23/2009
gordy
GOOD FOR MCNABB!!!!!!!! If this meeting did take place and he truly relayed that sentiment then he is an absolute hero in my book. This organization has been handcuffed by classic emperor’s new clothes syndrome for years and Reid is the one in the Royal Moo Moo. He has been trying to run a pass oriented offense with receivers whom would barely start in the Arena Football League. McNabb has every right to ask for more weapons or a trade, if the organization doesn’t come thru then we will know who truly wants to win!
Posted 10:29 PM, 02/23/2009
jonnyb0916
Finally the guy nuts up and says something and all of Negadelphia still criticizes him. McNabb haters are morons.
Posted 10:33 PM, 02/23/2009
1611kjv
Gordy....it's no longer a matter of who wants 5, but does he want to stay? Let's look at other stars who have been there.....Burrell, Lindros, AI, Michael Jack Schmidt, and many others who have faced this type of scrutiny (deserved or otherwise) from the local faithful in philly. Who do e believe?!
Posted 10:34 PM, 02/23/2009
misch32
we are not going to win with Kolb. get another wr to go with Curtis and Jackson and another rb to help westbrook. and utilize Celek next year. they need 2 pieces on offense. name me another qb besides p.manning and t. brady who is a better qb than mcnabb.
Posted 10:42 PM, 02/23/2009
1611kjv
As far as the FO is concerned, I truly believe they are not risk takers...not anymore since TO. They play things close to the vest when it comes to pricy players and the extra baggage thereof. If they go after these "cure-all" players we're all clammoring for, then they will do their homework and only opt for the high character players who won't bring our locker room down. Team chemistry is KING in sports!!!
Posted 10:42 PM, 02/23/2009
1611kjv
As far as the FO is concerned, I truly believe they are not risk takers...not anymore since TO. They play things close to the vest when it comes to pricy players and the extra baggage thereof. If they go after these "cure-all" players we're all clammoring for, then they will do their homework and only opt for the high character players who won't bring our locker room down. Team chemistry is KING in sports!!!
Posted 10:42 PM, 02/23/2009
eeglenutt
What the Eagles do next will tell us everything we need to know about how the FO really feels about Kevin Kolb. Personally, I think McNabb knows he has the FO over a barrel because Kevin Kolb is woefully inadequate.
Posted 10:43 PM, 02/23/2009
wokmaster
How bout R-berger, minsh? Oh, no he's only won 2 superbowls...Hey jonnyb why don't you stop sounding like a typical Mcnabb apologist?
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Posted 10:47 PM, 02/23/2009
mtsmurf
wow this gives us the green light to get mcnabb the hell outta here. the guys just cant win a big one. now if your a fan of going 10-6 11-5 making the playofs and winning a game or two then hey bash me aLL YOU want. but the point of the matter is mcnabb isnt going to win a super bowl with boldin/ golzenez and westbrook FACT. lets get some change at the qb postion i ll trade two growing years for a super bwol in three with kolb. i know as long as mcnabb laces up his cleats here in philly we wont ever win a super bowl. hit the road mcnabb you choke artist.
Posted 10:52 PM, 02/23/2009
gordy
1611kjv; Agreed, I am hoping against hope that isn't the case. I am very suspicious of this Front offices motivation and their spin machine on philadephiaeagles.com. The fact that McNabb is asking for more weapons or a trade really puts this F.O. in a bad position which I think is great. But I hear you in the Lindros front; it has crossed my mind more then once.
Posted 10:53 PM, 02/23/2009
1611kjv
Final thoughts: What were the 2 most glaring problems last year? Dropped/poor passes, and not enough push from the o-line (3rd and 1 ring a bell?) Let's see if AR and the gang can improve these 2 things, either with new or improved players. 2004 is looooong gone. There hasn't been that type of execution of the plays since then. Guys are older, slower, teams have caught up w/ the playbook, call it what ya wanna. Better execution, leadership, and concentration will pay HUGE dividends and all this blather will stop. GO BIRDS!!! E-A-G-L-E-S....EAGLES!!!!
Posted 10:54 PM, 02/23/2009
wokmaster
Lonewolf get ready for the apologist club to come out in full force..
Posted 10:58 PM, 02/23/2009
tsadeek712
Uh Oh, Kevin Kolb time. December of next year all the McNabb haters will be rationalizing a 6-10 or 8-8 season and how at least they didn't have to deal with having a black quarterback urrrrr, I mean deal with McNabb. They'd much rather go 6-10 with someone they're more 'comfortable' with than to be a contender every year with anybody that looks like McNabb. I really thought this year was the nail in the haters coffins but it seems like the opposite is true. Man I can't believe it. Most teams know today that they don't have a serious chance at winning the Super Bowl next year because they don't have a quarterback that can get them there. While every year that McNabb has been healthy, the Eagles have been EXPECTED to make the playoffs and possibly make it to the Super Bowl because of their quarterback and defense.
Posted 10:59 PM, 02/23/2009
JACK V
if the eagles get two running backs with size and speed and an attitude like jon runyan it won't matter who is playing qb. let the defense beat them up and the runners run them over. it's worked for years. once a player starts to tell management how to run the team that player goes. what is philadelphia getting upset about? the eagles will never win a chanpionship with mcnabb now that he's an old man getting fatter each year. by fatter i mean in the head as well as body. everything comes to an end and this mcnabb and westbrook combo is getting real old.
Posted 11:03 PM, 02/23/2009
jonnyb0916
Oh wise man Wokmaster. I'm sure all of Philly wishes it had your knowledge and insight into how to build a better football team. If you're having this much fun dumping on McNabb, I can't wait to hear your posts on Kolb. Wise up moron, he's the best we've ever had.
Posted 11:08 PM, 02/23/2009
wokmaster
The best you ever had, huh? Let me ask you this, genius, how many QB's have had 10 years? The same head coach? The same offensive scheme? You're a dope and you sound like you're afraid to try something new...give Kolb a chance and if he doesn't work, move on..
Posted 11:12 PM, 02/23/2009
1611kjv
I wonder what Denver fans wrote during Elway's time there before he won the "big one"? Or 49er fans & Steve Young? Or Trent Dilfer in TB? Or deadskin fans about their SB MVP (black) QB, Doug Williams? All were labled as "chokers", then, finally, winners. Hmmmm.....No racist intentions, I assure you. Peace out, all...beddy-bye time.
Posted 11:23 PM, 02/23/2009
elektrika
Wokmaster: proving himself the second coming of the d*uchebag Lonestar once again with his ignoranct and out-of-left-field remarks about a sport he obviously knows nothing about.
Posted 11:32 PM, 02/23/2009
wokmaster
elektrika: out of left field remarks? I'd ask you to explain but I really couldn't care less what you or any of the pea-brained Mcnabb apologists think. Go follow whatever teamhe demands a trade to..
Posted 11:37 PM, 02/23/2009
Bonnadn
I couldnt agree more the ddoublem. get the man a stud wideout and sign nose tackle from the titans. draft bernie wells to compliment bwest.
Posted 11:43 PM, 02/23/2009
ajbrown2005
wok why do you even waste your time here...ur a pats fan go post on websites that ur insight would be welcome at.
Posted 11:44 PM, 02/23/2009
ajbrown2005
wok your a pats fan. why waste your time here? go post where your insights would be welcome.
Posted 11:58 PM, 02/23/2009
billgfc
alls well that end's well
Posted 11:58 PM, 02/23/2009
billgfc
alls well that end's well
Posted 12:02 AM, 02/24/2009
sfeagle
Wok you d-bag, all of the qb's prior to #5 could not make it ten years, nor could the coaches. They never made the playoffs and when they did they lost. That is why McNabb and Reid have been here ten years, because they consistently have a great shot of winning it all. When they are gone, then who will you and the other losers call chokers?
Posted 12:09 AM, 02/24/2009
mongoS
I knew Mcnabb couldn't be crazy enough to want to come back to Philly. The first int and the haters and media will want him benched in favor of the incompetent Kolb. Mcnabb should move on.
Posted 12:10 AM, 02/24/2009
sfeagle
Wok, Smurf, Lonefool, Iceman, Clobal...You are the worst fans and clueless too. McNabb-must-go...= Big mouth, little man and Boobirds, you screen-name says it all, you will never be happy. All of you, please go root for the redskins!
Posted 12:32 AM, 02/24/2009
mongoS
sign a good FA wr like the man implied last yr and Philly beats Arz. all the games should stop. philly is an ignorant organization with a very ignorant local media. they would prefer to bash the man over pointless nonsense then admit Mcnabb has been right for years!
Posted 01:12 AM, 02/24/2009
tsadeek712
I keep seeing "choke", "choke artist", IDIOTS don't you realize that BRAD LIDGE was 'HUGELY' (can I say that), instrumental in the Philly's Championship. Like I said before you can't HONESTLY, and RATIONALLY see the turnaround that Brad Lidge had and say to yourself that there is NO CHANCE that McNabb can win a Super Bowl. What people call "chokes" by McNabb are nothing compared to what Lidge did as an Astro over and over again. But it's not about wins and loses to the haters. You could take Kolb, or Jaws with his goofy tendancies and demeaner put them in McNabbs place over the last ten years, and they're begging him to stay. I think that just like alot of the people that ran Lidge out of Houston, saying that he could never perform in the 'big game' the haters in Philly are get when McNabb wins a Championship somewhere else. It's funny, they were so confident he couldn't win the NFC championship game. He performs well and they win that game. Then the haters start prayin' Lord please don't let him win the Super Bowl. They're not Eagles fans, they're McNabb haters. They say he's too goofy and they embrace Jaws and his goofiness, they say having winning seasons isn't enough, and they praise jaws for being a "winning" quarterback, they say just making it to the Super Bowl isn't enough, and for years Jaws was a hero for just making it to the Super Bowl. Their are simply too many fans in Philly that don't want the guy here. Even if he wins a Super Bowl for the Eagles that group will simply point out how Kolb or somebody else would have won two or three Super Bowls with the same talent around him. He can't win, even if he wins. Tom Brady had a WR that was the Super Bowl MVP. Tell me which one, Antonio Freeman at the end of his career, FredEX, Todd Pinkston, James Thrash, Greg Lewis. Which of those guys is capable of doing that. Even with Joe Montana throwing to them I can't see it, and you can't either. These guys couldn't even make the Patriots team.
Posted 01:38 AM, 02/24/2009
tony b
I agree with McNabb....get some weapons!! Does it matter whether it's a wide receiver, running back, tight end. McNabb didn't say just " wide receiver " he said weapons....so get it for him!! This is a no-brainer!! When you got everyone in the country knowing the obvious but the Eagles brain-trust something is wrong!! This move may backfire since we've all seen how this organization doesn't like to be held " hostage ". But it's the straw McNabb had to pull. Either he'll be gone in two years probably with Brian Westbrook too...or the team starts giving him what he needs. Say what you all want to...but whiners will REALLY be crying when this team is turned over to Kolb and the McNabb/Westbrook years are all gone and wasted by a hard-headed organization
Posted 01:40 AM, 02/24/2009
drjimmy
I know that McNabb has done a huge amount of great things for the Eagles over his career, but he annoys the hell out of me on a regular basis now. We need weapons on offense! Wow, what insight! Everyone has known that for the last 10 years (Except for the 1 season with T.O.). McNabb waits until NOW to make a real stand and demand? Give me a break. He wasted the career of Westbrook, Dawkins, Runyan, and more by not demanding the Eagles go and get a major WR years ago. McNabb had more than enough power that the Eagles would have made him happy and even with McNabb's inconsistancy, we would have won at least 1 Super Bowl, maybe more. Look at the teams that have won...The Giants? The 2008 Steelers? There have been several years when there was no dominat team in the league, when the Super Bowl was there for the taking. And McNabb waits until NOW to demand weapons? Westbrook is banged up and on the downside of his career. Dawkins is another year older and may be outta here. Runyan & Thomas may be gone. It makes me sick
Posted 01:50 AM, 02/24/2009
Hexfoliation
Are you folks nuts? Marvin Harrison is a 100 years old, and lost a step years ago. TJ would be a slight upgrade, but he is a posession receiver at best. Here is a thought - trade Donovan for Anquan Boldin and a draft pick, then sign Kurt Warner. Problem solved (wink wink!)
Posted 01:57 AM, 02/24/2009
tsadeek712
Remember a couple of years ago. Everyone was calling Tony Romo an elite quarterback ( and many still are), and McNabb was an "injury prone big game choker" at the end of his career. I hope McNabb doesn't leave, but if he does, I hope he goes to Dallas. And maybe Andy Reid signs Tony Romo so that the McNabb haters can experience what choking REALLY is. When you visit message boards for the Cowboys, the overwhelming majority of the posts are so optimistic about Tony Romo. And there is nothing wrong with that. Carson Palmer was rated ahead of McNabb prior to this season by many. His fan base is overwhelmingly optimistic about him. And there is nothing wrong with that. But what have they done compared to what McNabb has done and continues to do? It's Ok not to like McNabb. It's Ok to feel like he should have played better against the Patriots in the Super Bowl. But to be joyful about the quarterback that has taken you to 5 NFC title games in 8 years leaving just isn't rationale. Maybe McNabb is just a bad person and that's why there are so many fans that want to see him leave. I guess i'm just drinking the 'coolaid' so much I can't see it. Maybe it's all of the off the field incidents, getting arrested, and beating his wife, giving the fans the finger, and talking bad about the city and management. What's that? He hasn't done any of those things. But even in this story he's essentially criticized for that. " Forgotten, it seems, are the times when every assertion was accompanied by three modifiers and two qualifications ... his MPA (Masters of Passive Aggressiveness), ..." No quarterback in the NFL has the adoration of ALL of the teams fans. But the McNabb supporters, while I don't think there is any question that they outnumber his IRRATIONAL critics (i'm not talking about the rational ones), it's not by as much as it should be. And this is what kills me, they're not saying that he needs to play better so we can win a title, they're saying get rid of him. What?
Posted 02:21 AM, 02/24/2009
kwallen
Idiot you will be the ones on here Itching and moaning when we are 4-12 wihtout mcnabb ......
Posted 02:32 AM, 02/24/2009
allsprtsfan84
Why would you want the eagles to sign Harrison he is 36 and he wasnt willing to take a pay cut to restructure his 13 million dollar cap hit for this year, how much would you want to spend on him, not to mention if the eagles were to sign him they would lose out on the chance to trade and sign Boldin, if you had Harrison, Jackson, Curtis there wouldnt be any room for Boldin and we would lose out. The eagles DL is fine we could use another pass rusher but it wasnt the reason we lost this year, also our OL will get younger Runyan wont be back Thomas will but not for a long term deal, we will draft a OL in this draft there are plenty of them in this draft. Also dont call for TJ either hes going to want to much money and he is 32 and on the decline, also i think this was a right play by Donovan it puts the pressure on the front office to make this move by making this public if they dont and the eagles lose than the fans wont put it on McNabb as much as they will the front office, and with all the options the eagles have right now with draft picks and available players to trade they have the oppurunity to upgrade.
Posted 02:42 AM, 02/24/2009
allsprtsfan84
Donovan has been one of the best quaterbacks in the league statistically since he was drafted, that being said has he won a superbowl no, however i cant think of too many quaterbacks in the NFL who have been as successful as him with as little to work with offensively, its not his fault the team hasnt surrounded him with a top WR or a top TE or even a top fullback to make holes for the smaller Westbrook, or even a big back who can move the chains, when teams know your going to throw all the time and you cant convert show yardage by the ground and you have no go to receiver imagine how much harder that makes it on him yet he still wins and wins every year despite it all so really everyone who is always on his back should be thankful for what we have and think about what our team would have been like without him, the people that are complaining now are probably the same people who wanted Ricky Williams years ago shows how much they really know or understand. Lets hope management puts some talent around him and watch how good he can really be, than you can all jump back on the bandwaggon like you know you do.
Posted 04:12 AM, 02/24/2009
TexColorado
I don't get why people are saying that McNabb can't win a Super Bowl. Trent Dilfer did. Brad Johnson did. Mark Rypien did! Mark Rypien?!! Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. And he had Duper and Clayton to throw to! I'd bring in both Marvin Harrison and Fred Taylor (if the price is right and they accept a diminished role from what they were used to), use our draft picks wisely and we can have 2 parades next year. One for the Phillies repeat and one for the Eagles. Or how about 3 parades? The Flyers are very close too.
Posted 04:18 AM, 02/24/2009
bobbyuk
Trade him. I'm getting tired of his crap. Yeah, he hasn't had the best WRs to work with in his time here, but neither did Brady up in New England. When the Pats won their SBs, there was NO Moss, NO Owens. Deion Branch and Troy Brown were solid players but they weren't superstars. McNabb has had the tools to get the job done--HIS turnovers in the NFCCGs has killed this team--not to mention poor decision making and poor accuracy in clutch time. Maybe the FO should make a demand of him--how about playing up to your capabilities against the poor teams as well as the good teams.
Posted 05:30 AM, 02/24/2009
JamesJ
What will be his excuse when Reid gets Bouldin/Harrison/Houz and McNabb still throws 4 ints in the playoffs
Posted 06:16 AM, 02/24/2009
p.boog
The Eagles will never win a super bowl with Mcnabb. The Eagles were not that bad at the wide receiver position, or the tight end position,& the Eagles probably have the best running back in football.What more does Mcnabb need?.
Posted 06:39 AM, 02/24/2009
allsprtsfan84
What are you talking about the eagles cant win a super bowl with McNabb, put the talent around him and give him a shot at it, he wins with no redzone receiver or TE, Westbrook as good as he is, is not the best RB in football that guy plays in Minnesota, come up with some logical arguments for now on before you start talking about how Donovan cant win a super bowl, the only season where he had a redzone threat they went to the super bowl and almost won, losing to a dynasty team, if you dont know what your talking about than dont post something stupid just to post.
Posted 06:39 AM, 02/24/2009
lunch
No way Marvin Harrison gets any money from Joe the Shmo. Then there's that pesky little gun incident.
Posted 06:49 AM, 02/24/2009
jachanin
When you start quoting WIP then we are really in trouble...if Mcnabb is MoMope...Gargano is McStupid..i have long since stopped listening to WIP...their biggest challenge is figuring out how to BS their way through their 4 or 5 hours...hmmm shall we talk about movies??...how about calling if you are a sports geek???....UGH! as far as McNabb's alleged demands....i hope he acutally is making them...this is the most rigid, inflexible, stubborn front orifice...oooppps office imaginable...Mcnabb would have been an easy HOF admitee but for the Reid/Banner refusal to make the necessary adjustments...10 years and still trying to do it their way ....Banner was born too late..he is better suited to be a medicine man selling sure fire bottles of cure all goop to the masses...come to think of it ..that is what he is doing...as for Reid....i mean Dr. Frankenpass....forget it...have another cheesburger...this team is doomed...Donovan..it's about time...now don't give in...if i were you the Bears would look awful tempting...what a fiasco...if only Lurie had the cajones to drop the hammer on these do nothings, Dr. Slick and the Round Clown of Renown...get ready to join the Deadskins at the bottom of the division...
Posted 07:02 AM, 02/24/2009
mick314
Go with TexColarado idea. Sign Rypian, Dilfer, Johnson et al and make "Ant" the GM, AJ his Asst and Eskin the waterboy. Skip Lehigh camp, take in double feature movies all summer. Go 0-16 in '09 and apply for aid under stimulus package for '10. Ship Reid off to JennyCraig camp and bring in Vermeil as Chief Scout. That should silence all critics.
Posted 07:47 AM, 02/24/2009
G
I was looking for the comment about Peyton Manning not restructuring his deal to keep Marvin Harrison, I guess I missed it.
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Posted 08:44 AM, 02/24/2009
Vituperator
Forget Harrison, let's bring back Jerry Rice. Harrison is an old man. PS: Lonewolf, it's time for a new McNabb nickname.
Posted 08:59 AM, 02/24/2009
cityslickerktm
I'll help him pack.
Posted 09:07 AM, 02/24/2009
ag
its about time he used his leverage. We do need another playmaker and a commitment to the running game. Good for him. Now the FO needs to get it done.
Posted 09:20 AM, 02/24/2009
thealphawolf
*sigh* and so it begins. You guys know wokmaster is a Patriots fan, right? He's just worried if Donovan gets what he wants, the Eagles will beat them this time. Tom Brady will be back and he has Randy Moss. The Pats will be there. Can the Eagles get their with their current roster? Five is right- get him some help. He has been masking o-line problems for a while because he can move and throw on the run. I don't know ho closely you guys watched the AZ game, but Thomas was getting beat like he stole something, and McNabb knew it so he just moved around and made it happen. On the last series, it was Thomas who kept allowing guys to go right by him. They need, before anything, two OTs (Can't run with no holes, can't pass with no blocking) a fullback, a bigger guy to compliment Westbrook, a tight end who can block and catch or who they can alternate with Celek (who proved he can catch and that he can't block for spit) and then they need to address the safety position. Dawkins needs a successor to train if they keep him (they should.) The rest of the defense is pretty solid but we got killed in safety coverage assignments all year. Love Dawk, but he has lost a step and needed the nickel alignment.
Posted 09:23 AM, 02/24/2009
JBP
Just stop talking and play Donovan
Posted 09:26 AM, 02/24/2009
thealphawolf
For those of you who want McNabb gone, you do realize we're looking at 2-14, 4-12 seasons for the foreseeable future with Kolb and whoever replaces him? It is difficult to find a guy who can do what Donovan does anywhere, let alone in Philly. You guys would be the first to turn on Kolb when he proves he stinks and hate on anyone else who comes in. Horror of horrors, you'd start wishing you hadn't helped run McNabb out of town, especially if he ends up with a contender and finishes his application for Canton up with a ring or two...for someone else's fans. You put him in Minny, they're a title threat. There are a lot of former Eagles assistants who would happily take him and turn their teams into contenders. QB is the most important position and franchise guys like this don't grow on trees. Be realistic. (I know it's asking a lot of you.) How would you, in your infinite wisdom, suggest we get another one if he leaves? What's the plan? Stink and miss the playoffs for the next ten years? No thanks. I'd rather be in the hunt than sitting on the sidelines. At least Philly always has a shot. If you like the sidelines, become a Lions fan.
Posted 09:32 AM, 02/24/2009
jasonb99
Harrison is not the answer at this point in his career. He would just make our receiving group nice, not great. Let's be realistic.
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Posted 09:40 AM, 02/24/2009
tothehouse
Dr. Jimmy-DMac has been asking for weapons for years-the reason why you never hear about it is because McNabb is a Professional and didn't take to the media. Banner is the reason this team never wins a SB. And for you DMac haters-DMac is the main reason this team gets into the post season year after year. Think about it- you put the trash this guys has had at WR over the past years with an avg. QB you're sitting home every January. Please Banner take your pencils and Roto rosters and go home.
Posted 09:42 AM, 02/24/2009
DerbyBound
I think what really happened was Don went in looking for a new deal, and the eagles said wait until next year. So the birds and Don came up with this story so Don would save face..... Regarding the trick play TD to Fitzgerald that had Demps spinning and falling down-- If Lito was on the field, he catches that ball!
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Posted 10:03 AM, 02/24/2009
ajbrown2005
alphawolf tells it like it is.
Posted 10:12 AM, 02/24/2009
G
I'm sure these conversations happened when they ran Randall Cunningham out of town. How did that turn out? You had to wait a long time to get Donovan, now you want to get rid of him and get who?
Posted 10:33 AM, 02/24/2009
IdahoMoose
See you Don! It was nice while it lasted! Straight up trade with the Vikings for Chester Taylor--he's more reliable than Peterson (see fumble-itis from last year) and would be a great compliment to BW. Draft the best OT left at 21 and either Nicks or Britt at 28. Draft Chase Daniel in the 2nd or 3rd round (not physically imposing, but a smart gamer) and let he and Kolb compete. I look forward to a year without 1st quarter overthrows and late game ankle burners! Fly Eagles Fly!!
Posted 10:33 AM, 02/24/2009
dutchman
We had weapons last year, just a wild trigger finger. It is really easy to blame the defense for the Arizona loss, but the truth is the offense stunk up the joint in the first hald. McNabb did not deliver and the defense wore down. The defense did its part, the offense and McNabb did not deliver until the end. A single point lead is nothing in the NFL. McNabb is a prima donna who should be traded.
Posted 10:34 AM, 02/24/2009
the tru 1
5 has carried this team 4 10 yrs now........2 1000yd rushers and 2 1000yd wr's in 10 yrs during his career....look at the off this past year no te, no running game and wr's who were among the league leaders in dropped passes and 5 still lead us to the nfc champioship game....when a rookie can come in and be ur best wr that should tell u all u need to know about the weapons or lack therof on this team....other than t.o. who has 5 ever played w/ that was good not great but just good??? torrance small, charles johnson, todd pinkston, james thrash, fred ex, na brown, billy mcmullen, a washed up antonio freemam?? they used 2 say elway was choke artist until they got him a hall of fame caliber supporting cast that was on his skill level ...and how come a lot of u ppl always wanna talk about the bad passes he throws but never talk about the plays he keeps alive by scramblin and moving around to buy time 4 wr's who cant get open against man to man press coverage.....i guess some of u dont remember the 14 second scramble in dallas in '04 or other similar plays???? NO ONE HAS DONE MORE W/ LESS THAN MCNABB.....
Posted 10:44 AM, 02/24/2009
tralala
Good for McNabb...he has done great things in Philly and I hope he gets what he wants. But if he wants to leave I can't blame him at all. The draft day thing he handled with class just like just about anything else that has happened to him throughout his career. Who can blame him for wanting to leave after draft day when those classless idiots booed him. Would you want to warm up to the fans after that bs????? He has been the best QB the Eagles have ever had. Only thing missing is the SB ring. Too bad he will never get one here but good luck Donovan I'll be rooting for you and when you get up on that stand with all the streamers coming down all around you you can give a HUGE F.U. to the Eagles and most of their idiot fans who most never ever appreciated you!!! I know you will never say it but I know it will be racing around in your head when you are up on that podium. Happy trails Donovan, maybe ALL the fans will appreciate you when your hall of fame career has ended.
Posted 11:43 AM, 02/24/2009
Dierte
Garcia won 1 playoff game lonewolf...what has he done since? Get over your lovefest with Garcia please, it's pointless. Haven't you used up enough of this planet's oxygen yet? Seriously I don't think can handle listening to your ret@rded rants every day...
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Posted 12:23 PM, 02/24/2009
Wheelermustgo
Trade McNabb to Chicago and see if he's happy with the weapons they have. McNabb will never win the big game. Take this opportunity to let him move on. Go get Derek Anderson and sign Jeff Garcia in case that doesn't work and win with defense and TIMELY scoring. Thanks for all the good times Donovan. Good Luck.
Posted 12:26 PM, 02/24/2009
stopbooing
Sign Tony G!
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Posted 12:37 PM, 02/24/2009
Panthro22
Stop talking about Marvin Harrison. His old a** will not be coming here. McNabb has finally said aloud what the Philly Eagle Fan Nation has been saying all along! Get us some weapons! No, A WR won't help get us to the SB, but a TE (Tony Gonzalez), a big RB (Deuce McAllister), a defensive lineman (Hainesworth) or a smash mouth LB (Ray Lewis) would! If we don't wind up with at least two of these guys the Eagles may as well stand pat because they still won't get to the SB. And for all of you haters (rexbigmoutha), McNabb ain't going anywhere. Stop your hateration and gargle on some #5 for another 3 years!
Posted 12:40 PM, 02/24/2009
allsprtsfan84
IdahoMoose--What a joke trade McNabb for Chester Taylor thats even more ridiculous than the guy talking about drafting Percy Harvin, than top it off with drafting Chase Daniel to compete for the starting job WOW let me say that again WOW if your coming with ideas for how to join Detroit at 0-16 i think your on the right track. LONEWOLF---Of course Kevin Kolb said hes going to be ready to play at a high level with the goal of winning a championship, what did you expect him to say, yeah i wanna go out there and keep turning the ball over evey chance i get and take this team back to the basement team it was before Donovan got here. I dont even know what your talking about anymore, everything you say is wrong, every comment you make is stupid, you havent said anything even worth saying really you should just sit in front of the mirror and talk to yourself because nobody but you wants to hear you talk.
Posted 12:44 PM, 02/24/2009
MB2009
When will this soap opera end?? I don't care if we go 2-14 without McChoke. It will be a beautiful thing. I also don't see why everyone is so down on Kolb. You give this guy some time to get to know the offense and personell and I bet you he surprises people.
Posted 12:45 PM, 02/24/2009
allsprtsfan84
Trading for Derek Anderson he lost his job to Brady Quinn the guy had one good year, signing Jeff Garcia i dont even need to make a comment on that, ill assume that was a typo. We dont need Ray Lewis hes what 50 and wants at least 10 million a year, or Haynesworth we have two very good and still very young DT who arent asking to be the richest defensive players in league history like Haynesworth, besides look at the numbers he only started developing into the player he is now two years ago and Bunkley is already as good as Haynesworth was at 25 and Patterson is close they have a chance at being as good and if not still possible Pro Bowl caliber players look at the numbers.
Posted 12:50 PM, 02/24/2009
allsprtsfan84
I completely agree with signing Deuce hes a big back used to playing in a two running back system, i would also like to see the eagles make a play for another offensive weapon such as Boldin, he doesnt want to be in Arizona and the eagles are in need of a big play receiver and they have the components to aquire him. As far as the draft goes pick up the best OT you can at 21 hopefully Oher is still there if you have to trade up to get him than do it if you cant i would like to see Heyward-Bey picked up if they cant get Boldin, otherwise fill the most glaring needs, big RB, OT, TE.
Posted 01:10 PM, 02/24/2009
xmar
It would be a Story Book ending if T. O. came back as that badly needed Weapon. (Food for Thought)
Posted 01:31 PM, 02/24/2009
Pat c
If I was the Eagles, I would put it back on DMac. The Eagles should tell the reporters, the weapons are fine, and the reporters should get a list from Donny Mac as to who should be replaced. Let Campbells Soup Boy throw his team mates under the bus. Get names from him of guys on the team who arent a weapon. And he cant say, its not his job, he isnt GM. If he thinks they need more weapons, than I am sure he has a couple ideas of some bullets available to help him.
Posted 02:09 PM, 02/24/2009
thefadd
Read between the lines...the Iggles have $40 mil in cap room. Even Joe Banner said there's no way you can spend all that and publicly wished for more/better free agents. Now Harrison will be cut? It's coming...
Posted 03:33 PM, 02/24/2009
bleedgreen76
10 to 1 says this meeting was a very standard business meeting where McNabb was trying to secure his future and seeing what the plans for next year are. I don't think there were any threats, or accusations. And I am sure the "clearing of the air" about the benching was dealt with in a matter of minutes. I think we all want to see some kind of drama here, but I don't think it's going to happen. They're professionals and I am sure they handled it as such. We as fans tend to make more out of these situations than there actually is.
Posted 06:59 PM, 02/24/2009
BIGGZ043
One time i would love to see the iggles go against their trend and take care of the franchise player...Sad to say i think that we're cursed .... its almost a flash back to Norman Brenmn or however u say his name. It seems as thought he pass Jeff Lurie his notes on how to run the free agent thing ... lol
Posted 08:01 PM, 02/24/2009
Eagles Phan in LI
If Brett Favre did this, he would be called a gutzy "leader." When was the last time Gargano, a Favre lover, had a clue?
Posted 08:03 PM, 02/24/2009
Eagles Phan in LI
tsadeek712, keep spitting the truth
Posted 08:16 PM, 02/24/2009
Eagles Phan in LI
"p.boog," you said the Eagels have the best running back in football. Did you see westbrook limp throught he NY and AZ games? DO you really think he can pick up a 3rd and 1? Much respect to #36, WHEN HEALTHY, he is among the best. However, the guy is damaged goods and CANANOT take the wear and tear of an entire season anymore. He had one year in his entire career where he did. The Eagles have no weapons. Are you kidding me abotu the Tight Ends. Brent Celeck couldn't block lonewolf. LJ Smith is one of my least favorite players of all time. Kevin Curtis couldn't get seperation if his life dependend on it and DROPPED A 4TH DOWN PASS THAT HIT HIM IN THE HANDS. The recievers, apart from jackson, who weighs less than 180 are garbage. Look at every Super Bowl team. Is there ANYONE on the Eagles you fear? McNabb has been holding this team together for years. When the ravens and Steelers won, they did it with MULTIPLE hall of famers on defense. Do the Eagles have any? The only team that won the SB with a bunch of no-names on offense was the pats. However, they have the best cheat er um coach in football. Somethign the Eagles don't. Every other team, had multiple pro bowlers on offense. Colts (harrrison, Wayne, Clark, Addai was awesome that year), Stelers (Ward + holmes were studs in the SB, do you see either of them dropping that 4th down pass); Rams (Faulk, Holt + Hakim). You really think the garbage the Eagles has compares to that. Mcnabb took Freddie Mitchel, Cecil Martin, Todd Stinkston, James Thrash, and Chad Lewis to NFC champion ship games. Who the heck else would?
Posted 07:09 AM, 02/25/2009
jachanin
I went back and read all of the reactions to this article and frankly was somewhat gratified by all of the pro-McNabb comments and in some instances real insights...as for lonewolf you give the species a bad name...your anger and pettiness shows through and your repetitiveness is "wickedly" trite and childish..it's time to get back on your meds...as for Gag-garno...he is a true phoney...who is condescending and a loud mouth only exceeded for rudeness and insensitivity by the drive time queen, Howard the Coward...having said all that, I truly care about the Eagles and hope them the best...i am convinced that McNabb is our best chance with the addition of some real weapons...i can't help but think that it really would serve the WIP dwindling fan base of eskin sycophants (appropriately pronounded "SICK-ophants) if #5 left and won the sup elsewhere...but you know it is interesting that based upon the Ravin abberation, people have already dissed Kolb, who I happen to think could surprise a lot of people...I think he has a chance to be really good in this system...however it is not the time to allow McNabb to split...just remember all of you know-it-alls who want to ride #5 out on a rail...we are still the only team in the eastern division that has not won a super bowl...and actually we are two behind the team that is closest to us...what an embarrassment...if banner and reid would stop doing their "smartest guys in the room", enron imitation we might be able to change that...but wiht reid that is a slim chance...ha, when was the last time you saw the words "slim" and "reid" in the same sentence?....UGH!!!
Posted 08:53 AM, 02/25/2009
DR Heller
GOOD for YOU Don!!! Stand up to the man in this economy!! Like that. You want the company to get better before you get paid. I wish i was a fly in that meeting, seeing Big reid all flustered and breathing heavy after his QB tells him how and what he needs to win!!! I wish i could tell me boss that!
Posted 11:52 AM, 02/25/2009
GangGreen
Finally someone who gets it completely, We need a QB who has a lil bit of it's about me, sum swagger, sum gumption. The eagles pushed McNabb during the season, well he just shoved them back, lets see what happens!
Posted 12:22 PM, 02/25/2009
KGKoons
The Birds do not need Harrison(a possession slower guy), they need another taller DeJean. Then they need a big back and a replacement for Westbrook. Then two OL. Then another DB. Then a TE. And possibly, another young QB since Kolb is not going to make it.
Posted 09:13 AM, 02/26/2009
MIKEZ
why are you people hoping for a 37 year old receiver on the down side. He's not better than Curtis or Jackson at this point. Look to the Bengals for the best F.A. receiver. The other thing is I'm amazed how people are down on Kolb. Yes, he struggled against the Ravens defense, what inexperienced qb wouldn't? He still moved the team better than McNabb in that game. Just the bad interception against Ed Reed. Nobody else got picked against Reed this year did they? Cut Kolb some slack I believe in Andy's qb picks.
Posted 05:04 PM, 02/26/2009
mongoS
Mikez, Kolb threw a 100 yd int for a td in a game that was very close at halftime. Also I can't let you slip that Curtis is better than Harrison comment in without calling you on that. Curtis sucks and is a third wr at very best. I'll take harrision as the go to wr on 4th and 10 any day over Curtis. Curtis proved what he can do in those situations
Posted 11:19 AM, 02/27/2009
jet3to
McNabb wants to work-out in Ariz-he doesnt want to go to camp-he is getting lazy.He think he has the Birds under his thumb,Andy goes along.Andy will give him a raise,thats his main man.I would give them walking papers,hire Shanahan,he will groom Kolb or toss him.Start over again with Shanahan
Posted 12:45 PM, 02/27/2009
bratman15
Mcnabb has it easy compared to other QB's,he dosn't go down much,I just wish they "Eagles" would stop hafe steppin.
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