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    GREASY. Dirty. Gritty.

    No, we're not talking about a mechanic's fingernails.

    We're talking about the difference in the Flyers' offense on Saturday night, which supplied a collective sigh of relief with a much-needed win over Carolina.

    Take a look back at the Flyers' five goals. All involved a significant net presence, including power-play blasts from defenseman Kurtis Foster and point man Claude Giroux that came from the top of the circles.

    Mike Knuble, who later collected his first goal of the season on a wraparound, was in Dan Ellis' grill for Foster's top-shelf slap shot. Rookie Tye McGinn screened replacement Cam Ward as Giroux positioned the puck far-post.

    Braydon Coburn scored from the high slot, crashing the net for a rebound. And Danny Briere scored with his skates nearly in the blue crease - and he wasn't the only Flyer that close to the net.

    "That's what the coaches have talked about," Briere said after his goal. "We need some more presence in front of the net, trying to find some loose pucks and getting to gritty areas."

    The Flyers needed just 24 shots to score five goals. It's the quality and not quantity that counts. Carolina posted 42 shots on net, but many of them came from the perimeter and the Flyers blocked an additional 32 from even getting there.

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    Ilya Bryzgalov, who has the third-best save percentage of goaltenders who have seen more than 200 shots this season, has kept the Flyers in every game. The issue has been scoring. The Flyers have averaged 4.7 goals in their three wins; they averaged just 1.2 in their six losses.

    With Scott Hartnell and Wayne Simmonds out, maybe McGinn - who was a healthy scratch earlier last week - can be that "big body presence" that Giroux so desperately needs to get that first line scoring. Without a ton of depth, the Flyers will only go as far as their top line takes them.

    Briere can feed Giroux the puck. McGinn can cause trouble. He won't have clean fingernails, but the Flyers will have more wins with that mindset.

     

    Reinforcement coming?

    Do not be surprised if the Flyers recall defenseman Erik Gustafsson from Adirondack some time soon. Gustafsson, 24, almost surely would have beaten out either Bruno Gervais or Kurtis Foster for a roster spot if he was healthy when training camp opened on Jan. 13.

    He would provide some much-needed up-ice mobility for the Flyers. Braydon Coburn's agility stood out on Saturday night, as he collected his first goal of the season by joining the rush.

    Foster, who has a blast from the point, also scored his first goal of the season - but the coaches have chosen Gervais over him in the lineup this year based on his skating. Nick Grossmann and Luke Schenn both provide size, but poor foot speed. Kimmo Timonen is slowing down by the day.

    Gustafsson, who was chosen for the AHL All-Star Game but did not attend because of a high-ankle sprain suffered on Dec. 14, finally returned on Jan. 25. He has four games under his belt and could be back in the NHL soon, where he played 30 games last year with the Flyers.

     

    Price for Weiss?

    The Flyers had director of player development Don Luce at Sunday afternoon's Panthers-Sabres contest in Buffalo.

    Why is that interesting? Florida, which visits Thursday, is off to a rough start and is already considering making drastic changes. Forward Stephen Weiss, who has spent his entire career with the Panthers, is an interesting piece. He was the subject of Hockey Night in Canada's "Hot Stove" on Saturday night.

    Weiss, 29, is a consistent 60-point scorer. He is affordable: With a pro-rated $3.1 million cap hit, the Flyers wouldn't need to move any pieces to fit him under the limit. He's also due to become an unrestricted free agent this summer, making him an attractive rental like Kris Versteeg (now with Florida) became for the Flyers.

    The only catch is that Weiss has already said that he would like to remain in Florida for the duration of his career. He was the fourth overall pick there in 2001, finally making his first playoff appearance with the Panthers last year (five points in seven games) after 637 career games.

    Weiss added an assist Sunday in his first game back from a minor injury.

    Luce, of course, lives in the Buffalo area and watches many games there. But he did heavily scout Toronto's Luke Schenn last winter before Paul Holmgren pulled the trigger in June. Florida GM Dale Tallon and Holmgren have completed five minor deals together since 2005.

     

    Slap shots

    The Flyers did not practice Sunday . . . Their 3-for-3 power play effort on Saturday pushed them from 24th to 16th in the NHL, operating at 18.6 percent. They face the league's No. 2 power play, Tampa Bay, on Tuesday (36.1 percent). The Lightning torched the Flyers for two power-play goals on Jan. 27 at Tampa Bay Times Forum.

     


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    Comments  (18)
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:56 AM, 02/04/2013
      Frank, Weiss status is nothing like Versteeg. Versteeg was RFA in the end of the season unlike Weiss who is going to be UFA. You do know the difference between RFA and UFA, right Frank?
      Nitroglycerin
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:49 AM, 02/04/2013
      Consistent media praise for net traffic based, rugby style, wack-a-mole type scoring is one of the things that is perpetually wrong with this franchise. Humorous at best, ridiculous at worst, that on the same day that a midrange slapshot actually scores for this team, the scorer is criticized as being someone who should be replaced.

      With endless skating, accurate talented shooting and effected (both offensively and defensively) stick handling, hockey can be a beautiful game - but never in Philly, the home of "the cycle" and the side board, back board rugby scrum. Another media failure is that it has never been determined who dictates this style of play which has been the hallmark of this franchise for decades. Does Dom Snider demand it, or is it just the preference of the GM thugs he consistently selects?

      Ah, in depth investigative sports journalism in Philadelphia: another windmill.

      §
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:52 AM, 02/04/2013
      This style has rewarded the franchise with the second best win percentage in the history of the NHL. And that's a problem? Get a clue.
      JrsyJoe
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:05 AM, 02/04/2013
      Yes, it's a HUGE problem...unless you value President Cups instead of Stanley Cups.

      Dangler9
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:42 AM, 02/04/2013
      The Flyers need to grind it out. I wouldn't try and get guys who score lots of goals.
      General
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:13 PM, 02/04/2013
      General needs to rub one out. I wouldn't try and get guys who actually score with chicks.
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:04 AM, 02/04/2013
      Now why would they be looking at Weiss? Cause the Brayden Schenn experiment is coming to a close. He clearly is not the prospect the thought they were getting.

      Schenn was groomed as a multipurpose center...playing his natural position recently he has been invisible. He failed as a winger with Giroux and Briere, he has failed as a play making center. He has failed as a defensively responsible center.

      What can Schenn do? Hit people. That's it...at a $3.047MM Cap hit (NHLNumbers.com)

      Schenn is a stiff.
      Dangler9
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:13 AM, 02/04/2013
      JrsyJoe...style has rewarded the FLYERS with no Cups in almost 40 years...it doesnt work... hasnt worked since the 70"s...all the 2ns best record does is keep fans spending money and keep Snider happy..I thought the goal was to win a CUP??
      flyers1000
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:14 AM, 02/04/2013
      Looking ahead to tomorrow's game, Tampa is 7-1-1 against the Flyers in the last nine games. Lavi has to figure out how to compete against Tampa, something he's failed to do for years. The Flyers have to elevate the puck against Tampa goaltender Anders Lindbäck, since he's good at taking away everything along the ice.

      P.S. Snipes: Here's an evaluation of Leaky's play against Tampa: "Leighton did not look like an NHL goaltender last night. His reaction times were too slow, the angles weren't sufficiently covered, the rebounds went directly into the slot."
      http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-Meltzer/Meltzers-Musings-No-Energy-and-No-Excuses/45/48846
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:08 PM, 02/04/2013
      Hey thanks! Yeah, he sucked alright--said as much myself right after the game. By the way, can you please send me an analysis of HunchBob's games for the Flyers this year? Oh, that's right, they unloaded him b/c he sucks even worse.

      Let's play name that goalie:
      1. This goalie had zero shutouts and zero playoff wins during his tenure with the Flyers, and there really is nothing else to say about him that matters.

      2. This goalie came to the Flyers mid-season when they were 14th in the conference, and sparked a major turnaround in their season. He got hurt near the end of the season, immediately after which the Flyers lost 5 games in a row and 8 of their last 12 games, limping into the playoffs. He came back into the playoffs in the 2nd round, and then rattled off three shutouts in a row in the eastern conference finals, before playing poorly in the NHL finals along with most of the team.

      How you can love HunchBob, who did NOTHING for this team, and despise Leighton, who at least did something good, is beyond me. Doesn't make you a true fan in my book.
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:51 PM, 02/04/2013
      LOL Snipes. That's the best defense you can come up with for your hero? Whining about a guy who's not even on the team any more? I'll know you'll never recover from Bobrovsky beating Leaky out and sending him to the minors. Here's why Leaky was send down:

      The Hawks light Leaky up like a Christmas tree:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOuF07h6YN0&feature=related

      Even you will laugh at Leaky in this one, first he misses the poke-check, then Vanek banks the puck off Leighton into the Flyers' goal:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtaEthqdp3U&feature=related

    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:56 PM, 02/04/2013
      I am not defending anything. You say Leighton sucks; I don't disagree. I've said as much myself SEVERAL times over now. But, unlike you, I at least acknowledge that he played well for the team at one point. This is not a fact in dispute. Leights was largely credited with the Flyer turnaround in the Cup run.

      I could care less about Bob "beating Leaky out" as you say. What exactly did Bob do for us that season again? That is all that matters.

      Is Leighton playing like he deserves to be here, no. But he has played ONE game this year against the top offense in the NHL, on a night when his team was dominated all over the ice-- maybe a little premature to write him off based on that one performance. But entirely reasonable to write off Bob based on his ZERO WINS IN THE PLAYOFFS and ZERO CAREER SHUTOUTS to date.

      (Out of curiosity, I just checked Bob's stats this year for the first time. Same old story-- 30th in the NHL in save percentage; 38th in GAA. Still no shutouts. Yep, that sounds about right.)

      I really have nothing else to say about this, so feel free to have the last word. You think I care about this way more than I do-- frankly, I just enjoy pointing out that you are not a real fan, which understandably you did not even deny in your last post. See you at the rink! Oh yeah, superfan doesn't even go to the games...
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:45 PM, 02/04/2013
      Hilarious Snipes. You keep saying Leaky "did something good for the Flyers." What did he do?
      Game 1 vs Hawks - Leaky blows not one, not two, but three Flyer leads to deny Philly the road victory that was so desperately needed.
      Game 2 vs Hawks - Leaky gives up 2 goals in 28 seconds putting the Flyers in a 2-0 hole.
      Game 3 - Even though the Flyers won 4-3 in OT, Leaky still let in two blueline blasts for Hawk goals.
      Game 4 - Leaky lets in two late goals as the Hawks cut the Flyer lead to 4-3, but a Carter empty-netter seals it.
      Game 5 - Leaky shelled for 3 first period goals giving the Hawks the momentum to cruise to a 7-4 win.
      Game 6 - The Flyers fight back from a deficit to force overtime and Flyer fans dream of an OT win and rolling into to Chicago with enough momentum to take the Cup...
      But leaky gives up the worst goal in Flyer history.
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:15 AM, 02/04/2013
      Luce and Homer screwed up on Luke Schenn. The guy's a bust.
      dogman5
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:50 AM, 02/04/2013
      Cant play run and gun against Tampa....Rangers beat them the other night, in Tampa, by playing a patient defensive game ( in front of Biron no less) . Keep puck on perimeter and wait for offensive opportunities. Dont press the game they will outskate you and they have snipers which we dont have...and you absolutely cannot take penalties against them..lets see a very huge game and test
      flyers1000


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