Phillies GM Amaro scuttles talk of Hamels trade

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CHICAGO - Cole Hamels isn't leaving Philadelphia. And, barring some giveaway, Roy Halladay isn't coming.

Yesterday, Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. explicitly dismissed any notion of trading away his 25-year-old lefthander and, without mentioning the Blue Jays ace by name, said he does not have the financial wherewithal or willingness to part with the valuable prospects needed to land a player like Halladay.

"We have two top-of-the-rotation guys," Amaro said flatly when asked about the Phillies' interest in acquiring another elite starter.

Cole Hamels is one of the Phillies´ top-of-the-rotation pitchers, says GM Ruben Amaro Jr.
YONG KIM / Staff photographer
Cole Hamels is one of the Phillies' top-of-the-rotation pitchers, says GM Ruben Amaro Jr.

One of those two is veteran lefthander Cliff Lee, who went 7-4 with a 3.39 ERA in 12 regular-season starts after the Phillies acquired him from Cleveland in July, then went 4-0, 1.56 in the postseason. The other, of course, is Hamels, who suffered through a mediocre regular season and then struggled mightily in the playoffs. While Hamels undoubtedly had a frustrating year, which included four playoff starts in which he failed to finish six innings, Amaro views it as nothing more than a 1-year hiccup by a 25-year-old pitcher who was coming off a career-high 227 1/3 innings pitched.

"I have no thoughts about trading Cole Hamels," Amaro said. "I don't know where those rumors are coming out, but that is exactly what they are. Cole Hamels is our pitcher. We're keeping him. And I'm glad to have him."

Which is a big reason why the Phillies decided to dedicate their disposable offseason dollars to upgrading third base, the bullpen and the bench. While the conventional wisdom - which, it should be pointed out, isn't always conventional - holds that the Blue Jays will look to deal Halladay, Amaro thinks that to acquire such a player would be to sacrifice necessary additions in other areas.

Halladay is scheduled to make $15.75 million in 2010. Adding him to the Phillies' current crop of guaranteed contracts would leave them with $121.75 million committed to only 13 players. Amaro reiterated yesterday that he does not foresee the team's payroll rising much higher than the roughly $137 million they doled out in 2009, which would leave him with between $15 million and $18 million to spend on the remaining 12 roster vacancies. Centerfielder Shane Victorino alone likely will make $5.5 million to $7 million after arbitration. Even if the Phillies were to nontender reliable righthander Joe Blanton, who could make close to $7 million after arbitration, there wouldn't be much money left to fill the few glaring needs the Phillies have.

"If it's cost-effective and it makes sense as far as a trade is concerned for the future, if a guy is a top-of-the-rotation guy we can keep for a long time or is cost-effective, and we have to maybe give up young players for, that's different," Amaro said. "But if it's a guy who is going to take up a large percentage of our payroll or something like that - we have a limited amount of money to spend. It's not a bottomless pit. We spent close to $140 million last year, and if I can't put together a championship-caliber club at $140 million, then that's my fault. There are limitations to what you can do. Again, I haven't gotten the actual budget number or anything like that - that's not how we operate. But I know that we shouldn't expect to be much different from where we were maxed out this year."

Unless Amaro is playing coy - and there have been no indications at these general managers meetings that he is - Halladay will not be a Phillie. And unless he lied outright when he said he had no interest in John Lackey, neither will the free-agent Angels ace.

Three players who could land in Philadelphia, however, are three of the biggest names on the third-base market: the Mariners' Adrian Beltre, the Angels' Chone Figgins and the Cardinals' Mark DeRosa.

The Phillies have discussed all three players and have not ruled any one of them out. The smart money at the moment is on DeRosa, who is older than the other two, but is expected to command less money. But don't rule out Figgins, whose career .291 average and .363 on-base percentage would make for an intriguing addition to the top of the Phillies' lineup. Figgins could command a deal similar to the 4-year, $40 million contract extension that Orioles second baseman Brian Roberts signed in January. Roberts is a year younger than Figgins, and had a higher OPS (.824 to .753) in his previous four seasons, but Figgins can play a multitude of positions and will be one of the few stars available on the open market.

A $10 million-per-year salary could fit into the Phillies' 2010 budget, and certainly would be feasible for 2011, when the Phillies have roughly $71.5 million committed to seven players and an $8.5 million option (and $2 million buyout) on current leadoff hitter Jimmy Rollins.

Beltre's market value is also difficult to judge. Yesterday, agent Scott Boras compared him to Tigers star Magglio Ordonez, who signed a 5-year, $75 million contract with Detroit in 2005 at a similar age. But Ordonez had posted a .929 OPS and 107 home runs in the four previous seasons, while Beltre posted a .773 OPS and 95 home runs (albeit while playing home games in a pitcher-friendly park) in the first 4 years of the 5-year, $64 million deal that just expired in Seattle.

Amaro said he is open to doling out a multiyear contract, but cautioned not to expect a blockbuster. But the Phillies will not have a good idea of how far their money will go until the signing period begins on Nov. 20.

"I don't know how that free-agent market is going to develop," Amaro said.

 

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Ruben Amaro said he expects to begin substantive negotiations with righthander Chan Ho Park in the near future in the hopes of retaining the veteran reliever . . . Amaro said his chief concern at backup catcher is finding a player who can handle the pitching staff for an extended period of time in case starter Carlos Ruiz goes down . . . Lefthander Jamie Moyer is expected to undergo arthroscopic surgery on his left knee to repair a torn meniscus in early December . . . Righthander Brad Lidge is scheduled to undergo arthroscopic surgery on his elbow today. *

For more Phillies coverage and opinion, read David Murphy's blog, High Cheese, at http://go.philly.com/highcheese.

 

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Posted 05:10 AM, 11/11/2009
Grandpa, when you were my age some guy puked at the Super Bowl!?
People need to hush all these Cole Hamels trade rumors, ASAP. The last thing we need is for Hollywood to get his panties all bunched up during the offseason.
Posted 06:25 AM, 11/11/2009
Fritz and Alice
They are not trading Hamels and they are not trading for Halladay. Just another story created in the minds of the media.
Posted 06:54 AM, 11/11/2009
FlyersFan88
I wouldn't trade a 25-year-old lefthander coming off one tough season, either -- you have to see if Hamels learns from the things he said, his performance. You have to see if he matures a little more, develops another pitch. It would be crazy, to me, to trade this guy right now -- as irritating as he can be.
Posted 07:44 AM, 11/11/2009
yardbyrd
It would help if the writer cited where the rumors were started. No accountability to spread these without citation. Often it is the agents fanning the flames.
Posted 07:47 AM, 11/11/2009
steveku2
Cole Hamels is an outstanding talent. One rough year and there's talk of trading him???? How about trading J-Roll? After all he didn't hit for the first half of the season. Enough with these stupid rumors.
Posted 08:11 AM, 11/11/2009
DR Heller
Can't see it happening. But I did here a name that was interesting to play at 3rd base.Baltimore's SS Migel Tejhadal(spelled wrong). Just as good Glove as Pedro. But a better bat.
Posted 08:20 AM, 11/11/2009
Neal Obstat
Maybe Hamels should be traded for Freddy Garcia.
Posted 08:30 AM, 11/11/2009
ALJ
The writer made a point of Hamels pitching a career high 227 1/3 innings. Do you know what Steve Carlton would call that. The middle of August.
Posted 08:31 AM, 11/11/2009
Nickawampus Leroy
Sounds just like Andy Reid and Skinflint Joe when the subject of Low Throw McNabb comes up.
Posted 08:40 AM, 11/11/2009
horsesareathletes
Hamels just needs to grow up; personally, I think he's a bit jealous that Lee is now the ace of the Phillies staff. Just my own thought of course. The problem with his immaturity, and his need to grow up, is that the Phillie fans are an impatient bunch. Should Hamels start off slow in 2010, the boo birds will be out in force. Grow up Hamels, dont waste your career on being a basket case, be a professional baseball player for crying out loud.
Posted 08:49 AM, 11/11/2009
bm2626
Fine, Mr. Amaro, we're keeping Cole. So we'll get exactly what for him after his current contract expires? What Ruben isn't saying is that the Phils won't be signing him after his current contract. Why? The smart spend is on Lee and my guess is that the Phils try to extend Lee sometime this off-season or during next season. With Howard, Utley, Werth and Victorino all due for raises in the next 2 to 3 years, there simply won't be enough dough to go around. Cole will want #1 money (or close to it) and will be more than happy to move back home to LA to take it. Folks need to move beyond this "he just had an off year" junk. Its irrelevant (even if he had a great year, it doesn't change the facts). Whether he has a good or bad year next year, the end result will still be the same. He walks after 2011. The only way Cole is here beyond his current contract is if he turns awful (which I doubt) or he gets injured (always possible). We're acting like former Toronto GM Riccardi. You move Roy when he has two post-seasons to play for another team and he commands more. Wait until its just one and you get less. The longer we wait, the less we get. We're just playing with ourselves over this. Trade away.
Posted 08:53 AM, 11/11/2009
borntosuffer
Don't trade Hamels. But, the one player who improves the Phillies more than any other is Halliday.
Posted 08:56 AM, 11/11/2009
UncleEddie
Just say no - to Adrian Beltre. DeRosa is the answer at 3B. I wouldn't mess with Rollins/Victorino at top of the order, so Figgins is out. If Toronto would bite on Happ and Taylor, and possibly another low-level pitching prospect, then I get that deal done today!!
Posted 09:03 AM, 11/11/2009
calm weather
@ALJ: and Warren Spahn would call it mid-July, Christy Matthewson mid-May, and your grandfather would call posting on this board a waste of valuable time to be doing something productive. Did you have a point?
Posted 09:04 AM, 11/11/2009
BIG_PHILLY
I find it very comical that the Phillies would say they don't have the financial werewithal to trade for Halladay. They probably made enough money in World Series revenue alone (Gate/Merchandise) to pay for Halladay next year. I wish they had to produce their financial statements.
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