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Obama had the tougher night

Forget the jobless, despairing voters in small towns across Pennsylvania. Last night, it was the Democratic presidential debate that was bitter.

Again and again during a nationally televised debate, the two candidates wrangled over the political sideshows that have come to dominate the campaign.

Sen. Barack Obama was thrown on the defensive about everything from comments by his former pastor to his friendship with a member of the radical Weather Underground, to why he rarely wears an American flag pin in his lapel.

It could not have been the performance Obama wanted to have six days before the state's primary, at a time when he needed to reassure voters who might have been put off by his recent remarks about "bitter" small-town residents in the state who "cling" to religion and guns because of their economic frustration.

At one point Obama said, "I revere the American flag – and I would not be running for president if I did not revere this country." That is not a good thing for a candidate to have to say.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton got off a little easier during the first half of the ABC News debate, but she had to explain why she had mischaracterized being under sniper fire during a trip to Bosnia as first lady.

"We both have said things that, you know, turned out not to be accurate," Clinton said. "You know, that happens when you're talking as much as we have talked."

It was a good thing for Clinton that the TV moderators carried the brunt of the attacks on Obama. She could not afford to because she is in a tough strategic position, facing a nearly insurmountable deficit in the delegate count and a narrowing lead in Pennsylvania.

With dwindling opportunities to change the race, Clinton needed the platform of the debate to continue sowing doubts about Obama's electability, but she risked blowback. As a general rule, politicians who go on the attack drive up negative perceptions of themselves almost as much as of their intended targets, and Clinton began the race with higher negatives than most public figures.

Two polls out yesterday illustrated her problem.

A Washington Post/ABC News survey found that Clinton was viewed unfavorably by 54 percent of voters, up 14 percentage points since January. By comparison, Obama's negative score was 39 percent. The poll also found that 58 percent of respondents said Clinton was not honest and trustworthy.

Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg state surveys of Pennsylvania, Indiana and North Carolina had similar findings. When Pennsylvania Democrats were asked to choose who was more admirable, 47 percent named Obama, 26 percent Clinton.

This was the 21st debate of the Democratic campaign and the first between Clinton and Obama in six weeks. Since then, the campaign has been full of twists and turns: comments by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright seen as anti-American and racist; Clinton's Bosnia trouble; the dismissal of Clinton's chief strategist after he lobbied for a trade deal the candidate opposes. And then Friday, the Obama comments about small-town bitterness.

Still, little has changed fundamentally in the campaign, and the debate illustrated that as it plowed over familiar ground of who is more in tune with ordinary people.

Obama spoke of the "generosity and core decency" of the people he had met in Pennsylvania, and under questioning, he said that he had "mangled" his words about small-town residents and did not mean to demean them and their values.

"The problem with politics is that you take one person's statement, if it's not properly phrased, and beat it to death," he said, "and that's what Sen. Clinton's been doing over the last four days. It's not helping the person who's sitting at the kitchen table trying to figure out how to pay the bills at the end of the month."

Clinton, when it was her turn to address the remarks, reminded viewers that she was the granddaughter of a Scranton mill worker, and not the former first lady with $109 million family income over the last eight years.

"I don't believe that my grandfather or my father or the many people whom I have had the privilege of knowing and meeting across Pennsylvania over many years cling to religion when Washington is not listening to them," Clinton said. "I think that is a fundamental sort of misunderstanding."

At its core the debate boiled down to this familiar argument: Obama saying that politics itself was broken, its games not worth playing, and Clinton saying that skill at the game was crucial.


Contact staff writer Thomas Fitzgerald at 215-854-2718 or tfitzgerald@phillynews.com.

Comments
08:05 AM, 04/17/2008
another apologist for obama,another biased media reporter
Posted by jack russell
08:07 AM, 04/17/2008
ABC: Your debate performance last night was reckless, unprofessional, and malicious. Was George S. chosen to be one of two questioners because Bill Clinton was unavailable? Forty-five minutes of pummeling one candidate demonstrates that you have a dog in the hunt, though which dog may only be made clear if you are foolishly selected to host a debate during the general election. My guess is that you and your flacks don’t want America to right itself, unite, and defeat the serious threats to our prosperity, security, and health—that your Gotcha politicking crafted in last night’s debate is meant to divide us still more so that your wealthy executives, owners, and tele-celebs may enjoy all the comforts grossly ill-distributed wealth can afford them as they waltz on the Titanic a bit longer. BTW, I’m in the same tax bracket, but without your ill-intent. I will never again watch ABC or any of its affiliates, or Disney or any of its owned media outlets. I will today block them on all of the TVs and computers in the firm I own. I don’t care if ABC gets the exclusive interview with Jesus Christ himself during the Second Coming, blessed be. I will go out of my way not to purchase any product or service of ABC/Disney advertisers, but instead buy from their key competitors, identifying those prior from weekly from advertising periodicals. ABC/Disney is part of the problem in our country and its politics, not the solution. Shame on you. Rick Leggio, Dallas, TX
Posted by RickinDallas
08:25 AM, 04/17/2008
OBIGOT is a muslim snake in the grass. IMO he is the most dangerous man to ever come this close to being POTUS. Elect anyone but this lying racist.
Posted by WILLIAM
08:28 AM, 04/17/2008
Sorry Charlie, but it looked like a high tech lynching by ABC News.
Posted by rixxk
08:32 AM, 04/17/2008
I am no political expert, but anyone can clearly see that Hillary shined so bright last night. Wow - what a speaker - No matter what anyone says about her, when she speaks and how she speaks gives me a strong feeling confidence and hope for the future. She is so sure of herself (essential for a leader). Obama might be good, but he hesitates at times and doesn't always seem sure of himself. I will vote for Hillary - she was awesome last night..
Posted by grabusicc
08:34 AM, 04/17/2008
He's a "muslim snake in the grass", I thought he was a Christian, remember Rev. Wright. You can't have it both ways, we talk about his Christian pastor while calling Sen. Obama a Muslim. By the way, where in the constitution does it say one must be Christian to be President. Before you call anyone a racist, William, please look in the mirror.
Posted by ralph
08:37 AM, 04/17/2008
I am amazed once again, that if Obama is made to feel uncomfortable for some reason it is wrong, I want all of you journalist???? to understand that character matters, I have all the answers I need about where these candidates stand, I know how to use a computer and do go on to all of the candidated websites to find out where they stand on the issues, I want to know how they can explain some of the stupid things they say and do, I want to know why Obama sat in that church with that minister for 20 years, I want to know why he doesn't wear a lapel pin, I want to undertand why Obama is always allowed to breeze through, but Clinton is burned at the stake, this was exactly what I wanted to see. ABC did the best job showing us how well these two can take a punch, we all know what the republicans are going to do as soon as we make a decision, they are going to give Obama more than a little discomfort, if he couldn't handle last night, the republicans will knock him out. Watching Obama or his wife speak is so irritating, the arrogance and smug posture that both of the display is disgusting, last night he showed more of that side of himself, that is the real Obama, not the "I am the man with the change" If he couldn't handle this, the super delegates better realize they will be handing the election right back to Bush, if they let Obama become the candidate.
Posted by Lindame13
08:37 AM, 04/17/2008
It wasn't a debate. It was a crucifiction. It was an execution.
Posted by fredfromSwiterland
08:41 AM, 04/17/2008
Promises they'll never be able to keep. Keep listening lemmings and believe all the garbage they are feeding you. Learn your lessons from the past.
Posted by TrblyVexed
08:42 AM, 04/17/2008
Mr. Fitzgerald has it right in this piece. This primary needs to end. Clinton and McCain are both vestiges of the post world war 2 political game that is detrimental for the US as it needs deal with policies in a global economy. This old style must crumble and be replaced with a political landscape that bridges various sides so the US can deal effectively with complex international issues that affect our interests domestically and overseas.
Posted by psubrian
08:44 AM, 04/17/2008
That wasn't a debate; that was an ambush. I swear Billary knew the questions ahead of time but still Obama was unrattled. Charlie Gibson and ABC..shame on you..this so-called debate was nothing more than a Q & A straight from the sleezy tabloids. Expected nothing less from George S.but Charlie Gibson who was a respected journalist..shame on you!
Posted by KWinn
08:53 AM, 04/17/2008
So what did I say that was abusive that my comment was removed? I'll still state it wasn't a debate; it was an ambush but Barack withstood the obvious.
Posted by KWinn
08:54 AM, 04/17/2008
Lindame13, I understand your opinions, but respectfully disagree. Rev. Wright's church and comments are very similar to other African American churches. The Pastor made the statements, not Obama. The bigger question or issue is not what Wright said, but why do he and many other people of color feel as they do. In reference to the flag pin, is the wearing of a pin a qualification to serving in political office. Should we all wear flag pins. If we disagree with Obama on the issues; fine. However, the actions of others and the wearing of a pin should not be a qualification to hold political office.
Posted by ralph
08:55 AM, 04/17/2008
If you think Obama had a tough night last night, wait til the republicans get a hold of him. Pat Buchanan said it "isnt going to be a public service announcement". They will shred that hommie and his endless list of falsehoods.
Posted by tdoc
09:01 AM, 04/17/2008
I have one word to describe ABC's debate performance: pathetic. I would have expected better questions even had the debate been hosted by the Rush Limbaugh show.
Posted by Vote2008
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