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Mandatory 2-year prison term proposed for illegal firearm users in Phila.

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  • A new bill will add a two-year prison term on anyone caught with an illegal firearm, but only in Philadelphia.
  • Legislators are working to get the bill to Gov. Corbett's desk as soon as possible.
  • The bill targets only those who buy or possess guns illegally.
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  • On a day when Connecticut and Maryland legislators ushered in historic new gun laws, a bipartisan lineup of Pennsylvania legislators and law enforcement officials put forth a bill that would slap an added mandatory two-year prison term on anyone caught with an illegal firearm - but only in Philadelphia.

    "This is not about gun control," Philadelphia District Attorney Seth Williams said Thursday, flanked by politicians and officials from the city and suburbs. "People who carry guns illegally are the people who are shooting people, murdering people, pistol-whipping people, threatening witnesses. . . . We need a game-changer here in Philadelphia."

    Democratic State Sen. Larry Farnese, who cosponsored the bill with Republican Rep. John Taylor, said the city that both men represent is in the throes of "an epidemic of gun violence" and that law enforcement agencies have long requested stricter gun laws.

    "No more BS," Farnese said. "No more screwing around. . . . This has to happen."

    Taylor described the bill as "a crime-fighting tool" and said he and Farnese would work to get it to Gov. Corbett's desk as soon as possible.

    Two suburban Republican district attorneys, Montgomery County's Risa Vetri Ferman and Delaware County's John Whelan, both supported the bill, saying that criminals arrested in their counties often committed earlier gun crimes in Philadelphia.

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    "I have no doubt that a safer Philadelphia is a safer Delaware County," Whelan said.

    State Sen. Stewart Greenleaf, Republican chairman of the judiciary committee, said Thursday that he supports the idea of increasing the grading of the crime from a misdemeanor to a third-degree felony, but has concerns about the application of mandatory minimums.

    "We need to do something about the issue of violent crime in Philadelphia," said Greenleaf, whose committee will review the bill. "But generally, I don't support mandatory minimum sentences, because they are difficult to apply. You can have an egregious straw purchaser with 20 guns sales on the one hand, or someone whose license to carry has expired and is otherwise an upstanding citizen getting the mandatory minimum."

    Williams said Thursday that the bill targets only those who buy or possess guns illegally.

    The backdrop for the announcement was the headquarters of the Philadelphia Police Department, which last year arrested about 1,000 people for illegal gun possession. Eighty-five percent of Philadelphia's 331 homicides last year were committed with guns, Williams said, and not one of those firearms was obtained legally.

    In light of those facts, the Democratic district attorney said, the bill should not be considered controversial.

    Indeed - the proposal outlined Thursday is markedly less far-reaching than the gun law Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy signed Thursday, which tightens restrictions on assault weapons and requires universal background checks for every gun purchase. The bill was that state's response to the December elementary-school shooting in Newtown, a massacre that prompted a national discussion about gun laws.

    Legislators in Maryland, meanwhile, passed a bill that would ban the sale of assault-type weapons, set a limit on ammunition magazines, and require fingerprints and a license to buy a handgun.

    And in Colorado, the site of two of the worst mass shootings in the nation's history, lawmakers recently passed a bill requiring background checks for all purchases, as well as one that limits the size of magazines. This week President Obama visited the state to highlight its laws, describing Colorado's efforts as proof that "there doesn't have to be a conflict between protecting our citizens and protecting our Second Amendment rights."

    Pennsylvania, with its thousands of licensed hunters, has long been one of the most pro-gun states in the east, with strong National Rifle Association membership and GOP majorities in both chambers of the legislature that take seriously their NRA ratings. In the vast western territory outside the urban and suburban parts of the state, politicians in both parties have historically opposed gun control.

    But in the post-Newtown world there have been signs of a gradual shift, including a recent Franklin and Marshall College poll that found 43 percent of registered Pennsylvania voters favor enacting more laws to regulate gun ownership.

    Shira Goodman, executive director of CeaseFirePA, which lobbies for tougher gun limits, said she was optimistic about the chances that the Philadelphia bill will be passed.

    "It would be hard for people to be against this," she said.

    Even so, state House Majority leader Mike Turzai (R., Allegheny) said Thursday through a spokesman that he feels Pennsylvania's existing gun laws are working.

    "Looking at statistics from Pennsylvania State Police data, while there has been a steady increase in gun ownership, there has been a steady decrease in violent crime," said his spokesman, Steve Miskin.

    The NRA's Pennsylvania lobbyist, John Hohenwarter, said he has not yet reviewed the bill, but said he thought gun laws should be consistent throughout the state. He also voiced concerns about innocent gun owners being targeted.

    "The NRA has consistently supported measures that target criminals," he said. "However, we don't want to unintentionally throw the same net over law-abiding citizens."

    Goodman said she hopes the proposed Philadelphia bill will open the door for similar laws to be sought in other cities, as well as for broader changes in state law.

    "Harrisburg has to take some action on behalf of the communities they represent," she said, "and we can use this as a starting point. It cannot remain OK to do nothing."

     


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    Comments  (75)
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:11 AM, 04/05/2013
      Why only in Philadelphia? Crime is everwhere. As others have said this is not a gun control initiative. Thank god common sense has arrive. Punish the criminals not the law abiding. I favor lengthy jail time for any criminal use of a firearm or possession by a convicted felon and I adamantly oppose prohibitions on the legal ownership and possession of firearms by law abiding citizens. And you know what I'm right.
      Dzicy
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:35 AM, 04/05/2013
      Here they go again, the Democrats, serving up pancakes to hide problems!
      Another feel good pancake to cover up the problem, make things worse and avoid the real problem; to let the problem fester under the pile of pancakes.
      How about Stop and Frisk!
      How about calling off your lapdogs the ACLU and boldly declaring that the civil rights of everyone, especially the right to live safely of all the good people who live in bad neighborhoods, are far more important than the rights of criminals?
      And how about getting serious about legalizing and then monitoring all the illegal drugs which are the cause of 90% of all murders?
      Why are Democrats so afraid of doing the right thing?
      Why do they love hiding problems with pancakes so much?

      Regarding these ideas for automatic sentencing, please look at all the very sad, inappropriate and tragic sentences caused by the "three strikes and you are out" law....which sounded so righteous, too, when it passed.

      GAC
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:45 AM, 04/05/2013
      Now this law sounds Racist to me. Why only Philly?
      jbetty01
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:45 AM, 04/05/2013
      Woo, big tough guy Williams. Ask the "paper tiger" why his office deals so many plea bargains and allows felons to run the streets at will. This city is a haven for criminals and murderers.
      dogman5
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:52 AM, 04/05/2013
      Seth, did you think this through? You are the only African American supporting this proposed new law. If you want to be reelected try and stay out of issues where you are a "minority". Try to continue your "invisable" service, staying out of the limelight. Bob Brady and the Big Democratic Machine will get you four more years. Don't make waves!
      tlee
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:25 AM, 04/05/2013
      Just wondering. When the Philly police start scooping up only black youth for carring these illegal guns and handing out these two sentences. How loud the scream of institutional racism will be? This is what the black community wants?
      teksys
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:28 AM, 04/05/2013
      To me, this is a "common sense" gun law.
      LouDiamondPhillipsheadScrewdriver
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:44 AM, 04/05/2013
      Why dont we get to the real problem here, the lazy irresponsible welfare class!!! No family structure whatsoever, women with multiple kids from multiple absent fathers, oh i mean baby daddy, they dont call them fathers, the welfare class sleeps til noon everyday, and have no ambition whatsover about getting a job or thinking about a career, even though they are given the opportunity to get all kinds of programs FREE!!!!! The children of the welfare class HAVE NO GUIDANCE FROM PARENTS THEIR ENTIRE LIFE!!!By the time they reach 13 years old the males have found a family on the street ( the criminal element) where they can make money by selling drugs or committing crimes, the females reach 13 and end up pregnant and then they go on welfare, food stamps, WIC and the cycle continues!! W
      wallycleaver
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:46 AM, 04/05/2013
      It's should be illegal for Mr. Williams to be the D.A.
      victim35
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:50 AM, 04/05/2013
      This isn't a gun law NRA idiots. It's a sentencing guideline for existing laws.
      Gradhospital
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:52 AM, 04/05/2013
      Actually its not. Its a mandatory minimum and a proposed city ordinance, and me as an NRA supporter, am ok with.

      The problem is there is ALREADY a law on the books for this which carries up to a 7 yr max.

      Enjoy:

      § 6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.
      (a) Offense defined.--
      (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree. (up to seven year sentence)
      Professor1982
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:53 AM, 04/05/2013
      The laws on the books currently produce a longer prison term for illegally possesing a gun, but you have democratic politicians that picked the liberal judges and they do not enforce the current laws. No new laws are needed, enforcement of the current laws is what is needed.
      dcn
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:54 AM, 04/05/2013
      Why dont we get to the real problem here, the lazy irresponsible welfare class!!! No family structure whatsoever, women with multiple kids from multiple absent fathers, oh i mean baby daddy, they dont call them fathers, the welfare class sleeps til noon everyday, and have no ambition whatsover about getting a job or thinking about a career, even though they are given the opportunity to get all kinds of programs FREE!!!!! The children of the welfare class HAVE NO GUIDANCE FROM PARENTS THEIR ENTIRE LIFE!!!By the time they reach 13 years old the males have found a family on the street ( the criminal element) where they can make money by selling drugs or committing crimes, the females reach 13 and end up pregnant and then they go on welfare, food stamps, WIC and the cycle continues!! WHEN YOU ARE GIVEN EVERYTHING IN LIFE SINCE INCEPTION FOR FREE, AND NO FAMILY UNIT TO GUIDE YOU, IN LIFE YOU TURN OUT A CLASS OF PEOPLE WHO CARE NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEMSELVES, INCLUDING SOMEONES LIFE!!! These politicians want to give mandatory sentences but unknown to most people in this city, state and country, these same politicians release prisoners EVERYDAY before they have served their minimum sentences!! Bunch of FRIGGIN HYPOCRITES!!! LOOK NO FURTHER THAN MAYOR McNUTTBAG AND HIS HIS PRISONER RELEASING CZARS GILLISON AND JUNOD!!! Think about it, they are releasing convicted violent prisoners before they serve their sentence back into our neighborhoods in Philly, and what do you think they do? They go back to their criminal behavior because thats all they know, its their career,THE WELFARE CLASS!!! CREEPS
      wallycleaver
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:05 AM, 04/05/2013
      To the hard working tax paying people of Philly, how would you like to get everything free?? Have no monthly bill except for your I-Phone, that means you dont pay for the home you live in, the electric that runs your house, the gas or oil that runs your furnace, the clothes on your back, the water you bathe in, the food on your table, the health insurance co-pays that come out of your pocket, no worry about paying the cost of raising children ETC ETC ETC This is what these hypocritical politicians expand every year, The welfare class totally depedent on us THE TAX PAYING CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY!!!
      wallycleaver
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:01 AM, 04/05/2013
      Example.
      p_abraldes


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