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ABC News' Charles Gibson (left) and George Stephanopoulos greet Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton before the debate.
MICHAEL BRYANT / Inquirer Staff Photographer
ABC News' Charles Gibson (left) and George Stephanopoulos greet Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton before the debate.
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ABC gets an earful after debate

It used to be that the important parties in a debate were the debaters.

Lincoln and Douglas. Kennedy and Nixon. Carter and Ford. Reagan and Carter.

But the morning after Wednesday night's presidential campaign debate in Philadelphia, the names on the nation's lips were . . . Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos.

Gibson, the avuncular ABC news anchor, and Stephanopoulos, the network's mop-top political analyst, found themselves at the center of a cloudburst of criticism for their interrogation of Democratic presidential hopefuls Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

"Shoddy, despicable performances," grumbled Washington Post television critic Tom Shales, who thought ABC's coverage of the event "seemed slanted against Obama."

With thousands of angry comments pouring into ABC, the network addressed the "debate over the debate" in last night's telecast of ABC World News, immediately after the lead story of Pope Benedict XVI's meeting with victims of clergy sexual abuse.

"Shame on you, Charlie and George, we deserve better," wrote one viewer in an e-mail shown on-screen during the report by correspondent David Wright, who also pointed out that some of the comments had been positive.

If Gibson was embarrassed by any of this, it didn't show.

"The debate over the debate has been heated and continues at our Web site, ABC.com, and we appreciate all the comments sent in of all points of view," Gibson said. And then it was on to other news.

The viewers needed little invitation. By last evening, more than 17,000 messages had been posted on ABC's Web site. "What a sham. That was the worst journalism I have ever witnessed," wrote a person who logged in as boycottabcdisney.

ABC was unapologetic.

"The questions were tough and fair and appropriate and relevant," Stephanopoulos told the Associated Press. "We wanted to focus at first on the issues that were not focused on during the last debates."

Those issues included Obama's relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. and Clinton's claim that she came under fire in Bosnia, said Jeffrey Schneider, senior vice president for ABC News.

"The Rev. Wright question had not been addressed; the Bosnia question had not been addressed," Schneider said. "It was important to ask."

The audience of 10.7 million was the largest for a presidential debate so far in this campaign, Schneider noted. With an audience that big, "we're not surprised that there is a huge reaction," he said. "It's yet another indication of how passionately engaged the American people are with this race."

He said ABC did not regard the debate as a conflict of interest for Stephanopoulos, who had been a press aide to President Bill Clinton. "He's been here 11 1/2 years, far longer than the time he spent in the White House," Schneider said.

Obama objected yesterday that it took 45 minutes for the moderators to raise issues of substance: health care, the economy, Iraq, jobs, gas prices. Campaigning in Raleigh, N.C., he mocked parts of the debate that had him on the defensive, according to the Associated Press. Deadpanning, the Illinois senator said: "It does not get much more fun than these debates. They are inspiring events.

"They like stirring up controversy, and they like playing gotcha games, getting us to attack each other," he said. "Sen. Clinton looked in her element. She was taking every opportunity to get a dig in there. That's her right to kind of twist the knife a little bit. . . . That's the lesson she learned when Republicans did it to her in the 1990s."

The Clinton camp shrugged off the controversy. "Both candidates got tough questions," spokesman Mark Nevins said in an interview last night.

Political analyst G. Terry Madonna, director of the Center for Politics and Public Affairs at Franklin & Marshall College, echoed Obama's concern that it took too long to get to important issues. "I was disappointed with the first 40 minutes of it," Madonna said. "They should have started asking questions pertaining to policy issues and leadership and not focused so much on personal questions. . . . There was nothing new."

Madonna said he saw no conflict of interest in Stephanopoulos' participation. "I don't like the way the moderators approached the debate, but I don't think they were in any way malevolent. Rightly or wrongly, they made the decision that they wanted to let people know more about Obama's personal life."

Kathleen Hall Jamieson, professor of communications at the University of Pennsylvania and director of the school's Annenberg Public Policy Center, saw no bias against Obama. "Moderators tend to ask tough questions of front-runners," she said.

Donna Johnson Bullock, 29, a Philadelphia lawyer, was frustrated that the candidates were not asked more questions about issues of real concern to the city.

"Gun control, education - here we are in Philly, a city that has struggled with those ills, and you don't address it," said Bullock, who consults for the Center for Progressive Leadership, which coaches young African Americans running for office. "I thought that was a big missed opportunity."


Contact staff writer Michael D. Schaffer at 215-854-2537 or mschaffer@phillynews.com.

Columnist Annette John-Hall and staff writers Tirdad Derakhshani and Elizabeth Wellington contributed to this article.

Comments
06:58 AM, 04/18/2008
If by now you do not know where Clinton and Obama stand on ANY issue you have pulled a "Weekend at Bernies"! I thought the format and the questions were very relevant and it was a debate on character and integrity. Obama blew it and he knows it and he is having his troops complain. GREAT DEBATE (and I'm a republican)!!
Posted by valentina
07:04 AM, 04/18/2008
Network news telivision is a joke. Is it no wonder why cable news outlets continues to erode away ratings at the "Big Three" ABC should be ahamed of themselves.
Posted by ogdenute
07:08 AM, 04/18/2008
Typical of why the values and morals of this country are down the tubes. ABC is no better then the NATIONAL INQUIRER. Shame on them. They have their elitist noses in the air and act like they are the barometer for freedom etc. Nothing more then MAURY POVICH. I thought more of Gibson. Not anymore. And that little weasel Stephanopolous is no better then Carville. They are all the same. ABC stinks.
Posted by S.J.
07:11 AM, 04/18/2008
"Kathleen Hall Jamieson, professor of communications at the University of Pennsylvania and director of the school's Annenberg Public Policy Center, saw no bias against Obama. "Moderators tend to ask tough questions of front-runners," she said." How does Penn employ an idiot like this? This is the problem with journalism. The people teaching the journalists of tomorrow think this is okay, and they teach their students that this is okay, who then go on to make the same mistakes because they've been taught that it's okay. No wonder it's such a mess. Something needs to be done.
Posted by tightlines
07:49 AM, 04/18/2008
Interesting that there is such a huge outcry when BO finally gets taken to task for the same sorts of things for which Hillary has been pilloried for years. The press clearly hates the Clintons and has been skewering Hillary in their coverage from the start. I expect that of Fox, but not the mythical liberal media (remember the lack of hard questions leading up to Iraq - the MSM did not seem very liberal to me then or now). Here is the reality: in November, Karl Rove & Co. are going to make every insinuation - real or fantasy - about the Democratic nominee. If BO cannot take a few soft blows from his own party, how is he going to fare against his own personalized Swiftboat attacks? IF he is the nominee, he had better develop some thick skin and some answers to hard questions FAST or we will all be greeting another 4 years of GW through President McCain.
Posted by SuburbanDem
08:12 AM, 04/18/2008
Obama looked and in my opinion is weak. His fielded his issues questions in the same unremarkable WAY. He is weak on the economy, taxes - - i.e., raising the estate tax,raises everyone's taxes. He is weak on foreign policy, and the like. Exactly what are his strenghts? Does he even know? Senator Clinton answered all of these questions and is strong on all...particularly the economy. The host of Mad Money described her as the most knowledgable Senator in all of the Senate on the economy, along with Senator Dobbs. It's odd how Obama only likes to take the "distractions" defense when it pertains to him and benefits him. When the heat gets turned up on HIM, then he resorts to "the distractions" defense when and only when it benefits him. It wasn't a distraction when he allowed David Axelrod to call President Clinton (twice) and Geraldine Ferrora a RACIST....? Where was his objection to "politics as usual stance" then. Senator Obama is a fake.
Posted by Gypsy
08:22 AM, 04/18/2008
It is not so much that Barack Obama was asked difficult questions, it's that they were not even relevant. The Ayers questions asked by George Stephanopoulos was almost verbatim from the question Sean Hannity had asked earlier that day on his show about Obama. Hillary is consorting with the very same Right Wing players who tried to take her and Bill down in the 90's. Is this what we want? Someone who will stoop to new lows just to become the nominee? How about the delegates questions? Michigan and Florida? I did not hear about them ONCE. ABC "news" should be ashamed, and the worst part is they are not ashamed in the least.
Posted by wdouglass27
08:26 AM, 04/18/2008
For the first time Obama was put in the hot seat at a debate and he squirmed and hemmed and hawed and contradicted himself. I actually felt sorry for the poor sod. He should have anticipated those questions and they would have been opportunities for him to settle the issues. Instead, without a teleprompter and the American flags behind him, he flailed and failed miserably. Blaming Hillary for being a good debater will not hide his own deficiencies. Of course Hillary will use his weakness to her advantage. What do you think? McCain will roll over in November because of Obami the Almighty? I remember Obama dredged up the cookie business and threw some other digs at Hillary. Bill Ayers never went to jail because the Feds botched the job. He was also unrepentant. The ex Weathermen that Bill Clinton pardoned had been imprisoned for 16 years and were repentant. Yes I am interested in the questions posited at last night’s debate and in Obama’s and Clinton’s answers. I don’t want a President who can’t explain satisfactorily his association with Wright and Ayers and who has difficulty in articulating his convictons and beliefs unless he has a script and teleprompter. I don’t want a thin-skinned President who can’t own up to the truth. From the LA times, there is a video now exploring Obama's connection with the Weather Underground. Here is the link - if it doesn't work, type in "Obama's Terrorist Connections youtube" in Google. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoiZdBSi-g What is Obama’s true link to the former Weathermen? The Obamaites will be singing a different tune if the tough questions had been directed at Clinton instead. I didn’t see them coming to her defense before when she was getting the tough ones. She has to finally confront the moderators herself at the debate before anyone paid attention. Why didn’t Obama do that on Wed if he thinks it was unfair? If he can’t stand up for himself why should we think he will stand up for the country?
Posted by alee21
08:28 AM, 04/18/2008
Obama has apparently pumped a lot of advertisement dollar into Philadelphia Inquirere. I was wondering if PI journalist were paid by PI or Obama. The answer seems to be Obama, but through ad money for PI :-)
Posted by Seed
08:42 AM, 04/18/2008
TIMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
Posted by bucktoofwilly
08:45 AM, 04/18/2008
You peeps that call this line of questioning of Obama "not relevant" are truly pathetic and predictable. Had these roles been reversed and the candidates were Republican---I'm guessing you would've been thrilled wdouglass27... George and Charlie would have been praised and given the highest props for exposing those "shameless" "hateful" Republicans... LOL!!! So transparent, so transparent... Finally, the "Right Wing" didn't need to bring down Slick and Hill in the 90's---they did a fine job of that all by themselves... Typical liberal---blame everyone else!!!
Posted by Delaware Vol
08:49 AM, 04/18/2008
This is why i don't watch abc for anything. Those 2 clinton moderators should have spelled out their pro clinton biases to the candidates before the dabate began. Again what a waste of such an important opportunity for america for these 2 bozoos to do such a disservice to us all. BTW i'm a republican
Posted by artaxx1
08:57 AM, 04/18/2008
In response to Valentina's comments on Barack 'blowing it'. This is, of course, what Republicans want because they know that they can beat Hillary but they can't beat a candidate whose fresh perspective and new ideas may bring a change to how we do things, not only in Washington, but across the country. In January of 2009, the Republicans are going out the door of the White House upon which the 8 awful years of the Bush-Cheney mismanagement will fade away into memory ... please turn out the lights when you leave and take out the trash when you go.
Posted by Mike Kotyk
09:01 AM, 04/18/2008
The debate was a joke. When the types of questions are like the one asked of Barack Obama “Do you think you are more patriotic than Reverend Wright?” it is obvious this entire event was created more for Nielsen ratings than for helping voters sort thru real issues. Does anyone actually think the candidates are going to fall into those traps? Frankly, if ABC News producers decided to focus so heavily on the tabloid issues, then why not go all the way? Why didn’t they ask Hillary Clinton about Mark Penn’s inappropriate relationships with the Columbian government? Or why someone who makes $109 million thinks they are in tune with the average American? ABC blew it, now let’s move on!
Posted by jbmtairy
09:05 AM, 04/18/2008
It's obvioius that the Clintons will do and say anything to win..Bill Clinton says "Hillary never whined when she was dumped on"..WTF..that's all her, Bill and mouthpiece Maggie Williams did was whine and then SNL ran that skit of her being picked on in the media which some say got her the "sympathy" vote..of course this was along with the tears..so please Bill (Mr. I didn't have sex with that woman)Clinton..STFU!!
Posted by KWinn
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