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'bout time.
This is the dumbest idea I've ever heard of. Half a BILLION $$$??? For what? You can take a bus or the subway to 2nd street and walk over to Penns Landing. Can you say "Trolley to Nowhere"??? For a half a billion you think they could cover I-95, make something worthwhile out of Penns Landing, work to widen or double-deck the Schuylkill somehow. But a friggin trolley tying up Market Street and shuttling degenerates between slot-houses? DUMB DUMB DUMB.
Or better yet, how about half a billion dollars for our schools.
Trolleys or not, a car ride down columbus from Spring Garden to Reed will take about 9 hours after these casinos go up. No thanks. Kill them now.
What would be even more seamless would be an agreement to give SEPTA riders reciprocal services on PATCO rail by using their Transpass/Trailpass and the same courtesy also afforded PATCO riders. The more seamless we make mass transit between the two states, the better it becomes as more people decide to take transit as opposed to the car. An even better idea would be building a tunnel underneath Schuylkill River to accomodate PATCO trains from their current terminus and extending service to University of Pennsylvania with a further option on extending service a few miles deeper into West Philadelphia. That is a long term project worth considering.
Can somebody please tell me why a trolley on Market St is necessary? Where exactly will it go? How is that not going to be a traffic nightmare during construction? Don't we already have the underground EL? Wouldn't it make much more sense to extend the EL to the waterfront, or link a trolley to it at 2nd st? The waterfront line is a great idea, because the infrastructure is already there. If anything, it should also go down Pattison Ave to the Stadiums, better linking them to Center City and the waterfront.
Where the hell is Girard Avenue at the North? Girard Ave and Delaware Avenue don't meet.
Why should DRPA/PATCO be involved in this? DRPA should stick with what they know -- bridges. PATCO shouldn't be allowed to start operating a line that has nothing to do with crossing the bridge.
They should use the freakin money to make it easier to get around in the city by public transportation. Do they really think the ones going to the casino are using public transporation? Get real.
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Another reason to send that senile old mule, Benedict Arlen out to pasture.
Right, in fact, after the casinos are built maybe you'll have to get a hotel room because it will be an overnight trip from Spring Garden to Reed. You have the intelligence level of a stuffed animal. I say build the casinos.
Between all the bike lanes and light rail systems, one would begin to think that the city doesn't want anyone to drive cars in the city. What would PPA and all the owners of the overpriced Center City parking lots do then?
Can't wait for the dregs of society to cut the seats and spray paint it up.
"one would begin to think that the city doesn't want anyone to drive cars in the city." --- Tell me about it! There are only 2,500 miles of roadway in the city. How ridiculous! Obviously they don't want anyone to drive anywhere.
This is a bad idea and a waste of money. There are 5-6 more lines that are more pressing and that need mass transit a lot more than the waterfront.
It would be nice if they could tie it all so that it runs from the waterfront to the zoo (taking the place of the Phlash). Being able to offer visitors the option of parking their car for the day and taking one form of transportation to all the city's destinations would be a smart move.
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