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Mandatory 2-year prison term proposed for illegal firearm users in Phila.

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  • A new bill will add a two-year prison term on anyone caught with an illegal firearm, but only in Philadelphia.
  • Legislators are working to get the bill to Gov. Corbett's desk as soon as possible.
  • The bill targets only those who buy or possess guns illegally.
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  • On a day when Connecticut and Maryland legislators ushered in historic new gun laws, a bipartisan lineup of Pennsylvania legislators and law enforcement officials put forth a bill that would slap an added mandatory two-year prison term on anyone caught with an illegal firearm - but only in Philadelphia.

    "This is not about gun control," Philadelphia District Attorney Seth Williams said Thursday, flanked by politicians and officials from the city and suburbs. "People who carry guns illegally are the people who are shooting people, murdering people, pistol-whipping people, threatening witnesses. . . . We need a game-changer here in Philadelphia."

    Democratic State Sen. Larry Farnese, who cosponsored the bill with Republican Rep. John Taylor, said the city that both men represent is in the throes of "an epidemic of gun violence" and that law enforcement agencies have long requested stricter gun laws.

    "No more BS," Farnese said. "No more screwing around. . . . This has to happen."

    Taylor described the bill as "a crime-fighting tool" and said he and Farnese would work to get it to Gov. Corbett's desk as soon as possible.

    Two suburban Republican district attorneys, Montgomery County's Risa Vetri Ferman and Delaware County's John Whelan, both supported the bill, saying that criminals arrested in their counties often committed earlier gun crimes in Philadelphia.

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    "I have no doubt that a safer Philadelphia is a safer Delaware County," Whelan said.

    State Sen. Stewart Greenleaf, Republican chairman of the judiciary committee, said Thursday that he supports the idea of increasing the grading of the crime from a misdemeanor to a third-degree felony, but has concerns about the application of mandatory minimums.

    "We need to do something about the issue of violent crime in Philadelphia," said Greenleaf, whose committee will review the bill. "But generally, I don't support mandatory minimum sentences, because they are difficult to apply. You can have an egregious straw purchaser with 20 guns sales on the one hand, or someone whose license to carry has expired and is otherwise an upstanding citizen getting the mandatory minimum."

    Williams said Thursday that the bill targets only those who buy or possess guns illegally.

    The backdrop for the announcement was the headquarters of the Philadelphia Police Department, which last year arrested about 1,000 people for illegal gun possession. Eighty-five percent of Philadelphia's 331 homicides last year were committed with guns, Williams said, and not one of those firearms was obtained legally.

    In light of those facts, the Democratic district attorney said, the bill should not be considered controversial.

    Indeed - the proposal outlined Thursday is markedly less far-reaching than the gun law Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy signed Thursday, which tightens restrictions on assault weapons and requires universal background checks for every gun purchase. The bill was that state's response to the December elementary-school shooting in Newtown, a massacre that prompted a national discussion about gun laws.

    Legislators in Maryland, meanwhile, passed a bill that would ban the sale of assault-type weapons, set a limit on ammunition magazines, and require fingerprints and a license to buy a handgun.

    And in Colorado, the site of two of the worst mass shootings in the nation's history, lawmakers recently passed a bill requiring background checks for all purchases, as well as one that limits the size of magazines. This week President Obama visited the state to highlight its laws, describing Colorado's efforts as proof that "there doesn't have to be a conflict between protecting our citizens and protecting our Second Amendment rights."

    Pennsylvania, with its thousands of licensed hunters, has long been one of the most pro-gun states in the east, with strong National Rifle Association membership and GOP majorities in both chambers of the legislature that take seriously their NRA ratings. In the vast western territory outside the urban and suburban parts of the state, politicians in both parties have historically opposed gun control.

    But in the post-Newtown world there have been signs of a gradual shift, including a recent Franklin and Marshall College poll that found 43 percent of registered Pennsylvania voters favor enacting more laws to regulate gun ownership.

    Shira Goodman, executive director of CeaseFirePA, which lobbies for tougher gun limits, said she was optimistic about the chances that the Philadelphia bill will be passed.

    "It would be hard for people to be against this," she said.

    Even so, state House Majority leader Mike Turzai (R., Allegheny) said Thursday through a spokesman that he feels Pennsylvania's existing gun laws are working.

    "Looking at statistics from Pennsylvania State Police data, while there has been a steady increase in gun ownership, there has been a steady decrease in violent crime," said his spokesman, Steve Miskin.

    The NRA's Pennsylvania lobbyist, John Hohenwarter, said he has not yet reviewed the bill, but said he thought gun laws should be consistent throughout the state. He also voiced concerns about innocent gun owners being targeted.

    "The NRA has consistently supported measures that target criminals," he said. "However, we don't want to unintentionally throw the same net over law-abiding citizens."

    Goodman said she hopes the proposed Philadelphia bill will open the door for similar laws to be sought in other cities, as well as for broader changes in state law.

    "Harrisburg has to take some action on behalf of the communities they represent," she said, "and we can use this as a starting point. It cannot remain OK to do nothing."

     


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    Comments  (75)
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:13 AM, 04/05/2013
      Anybody who believes this will stop illegal possession of firearms is living in a make believe world. Most, if not all, who carry an illegal gun are those already entagled in gun laws. They have a criminal record or feel they don't want to be identified as a "weenie" in their hood. Yet, they need to chance it, to protect themselves from the elements that make up our neighborhoods today. One councilwoman is fighting the Mayor over recreational funding for her district. Why? is this so, when another councilman has already achieved his goals of refurbishing not one but two playgrounds in Fairmount, the fourth safest neighborhood, and Francisville. A political football in play, and while others are struggling with new laws to stop the killings. I am sick sore and tired of hearing these politicians and their do good deeds, just to be re-elected. It's all smoke and mirrors, just ask any anti-gun advocate, who has already seen justice un-served. We need a Mayor who has a comphrehensive plan where the left hand knows what the right hand is doing. Stop grandstanding pols with our lives.
      Frank J Graff
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:30 AM, 04/05/2013
      LIBERAL AGENDA ALERT!!! This is a publicity stunt by the Democrats. The current law allows for up to 7 yrs in prison for possession of an illegal weapon. They're going backwards, lol!

      Enjoy:

      § 6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.
      (a) Offense defined.--
      (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree. (up to seven year sentence)
      Professor1982
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:46 AM, 04/05/2013
      You being a professor you would know the difference between up to 7 (max) and minimum 2. Tell the truth you just wanted a reason to get up at 6:30 am and yell out something negative about LIBERALS didnt you?
      Cleats2YourFace
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:13 AM, 04/05/2013
      Professor1982 is not and was not a professor. He has claimed many things over many threads that he was this and that blah blah blah...none of it he would substantiate. The fact is that he is a short, bald, middle aged white man who sits at his computer all day angry because no one will hire him. His rants give him some sort of feeling that he is accomplishing something, which he is not.
      tornadochaser
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:18 AM, 04/05/2013
      LoL. Tornado...you're too much, love. it.

      So, besides attempting to attack me (pitifully no less) do you have anything real to add to this conversation or do you want to just sit there and whine like a little girl?

      Professor1982
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:27 AM, 04/05/2013
      fester,
      wwffd? what would founding fathers do?
      they would shun you because of your dogmatic approach to everything.
      they were enlightened....you are frightened.
      whilst giving liberties to people they also feared that imbeciles such as prof1982 would destroy the fledgling republic.
      the same folks you quote from ad nauseum
      created a stronger central govt. partially in response to the shay's rebellion. they also crushed a tax revolt in pa with TROOPS during the whiskey rebellion.
      that part of history escapes you and only the williamsburg-esque nostalgia for past events is all that you remember.



      the lopez!
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:47 AM, 04/05/2013
      Poor Lopes. Still deflecting. The city already has a law which allows those convicted of carrying an illegal firearm to be imprisoned for up to 7 yrs.


      BTW, since you think you are more virtuous and intelligent than Thomas Jefferson enjoy the following quote from him and Cesare Beccaria:

      "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764. That was 230 years ago. -Thomas Jefferson
      Professor1982
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:05 AM, 04/05/2013
      BTW, since you think you are more virtuous and intelligent than Thomas Jefferson enjoy the following quote from him and Cesare Beccaria:
      fester,
      i never made such a claim against thomas jefferson. never. you ASSumed that. i am smarter than you, much smarter.

      you still run to quotes given to you rather than read anything by these idolized founders.

      is this shoddy academic work of your how you got through the g.e.d. program?
      the lopez!
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:21 AM, 04/05/2013
      Lopes - Are you done whining now?
      Professor1982
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:35 AM, 04/05/2013
      This comment has been deleted.
      the lopez!
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:47 PM, 04/05/2013
      Lopes your statement "you are a frightened and armed person" couldn't me more funny and ironic.

      If anyone is "afraid", it would be you and your 'lil libby friends who are afraid of big bad guns so you might want to rethink your statement.

      Now that being said, you have nothing. All the "fear" and "hate" out of the left is just feeding the machine of domestic conflict coming. Hope you're ready for it.

      You're playing a big boy's game with a little boy's mind and ego.
      Professor1982
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:10 PM, 04/05/2013
      fester
      you advocate guns and more guns

      i am not afraid to live in this world without a gun.
      you are
      you are a fearful person, armed to your dentures.
      li

      You're playing a big boy's game with a little boy's mind and ego.
      nice
      that's what you dig, huh?
      the lopez!
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:15 AM, 04/05/2013
      You get a notice in the mail notifying you when your concealed permit is up for renewal. I own plenty of guns. I see absolutely no problem with this law whatsoever. I am also a member of the NRA and also the GOA. This bill is a no-brainer. For one thing: it takes judges off the hook and the blame for lax enforcement of gun laws then shifts squarely to the DA's office. We have people who have visited a judge for sentencing on their 2nd, 3rd, 4th and even 5th VUFA charge. And wind up with ankle bracelet costume jewelry. That's absolutely ridiculous.
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:40 AM, 04/05/2013
      I never got my renewal in the mail as per the law, so if I wasn't a responsible gun owner I could fall victim to mandatory sentences. Also these laws will have no effect if Seth continues to plea bargin with every criminal and they are not prosecuted for the most severe crimes they commit.
      Taxpaying Voter
    • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:48 AM, 04/05/2013
      Well, I'm not stupid enough to not know when my LTCF expires so I won't be carrying on the street w/o an expired license. The date is on my electronic calendars. I don't drive with expired drivers licenses either.


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