Freeman and longtime guitarist/singer Jon Ginoli don't tour much, so this show's an event. "As Jon and I entered our 40s, we decided we needed to create stable income sources and keep the band active enough to pay for the things we want to do, like make records," says Freeman. "Nothing we ever did was going to turn us into huge stars, which is what we hoped would happen. Not necessarily because we 'need stardom,' but because we wanted to live in a world where an out gay band could have a number-one hit."

Maybe the smash never came, but they're currently finishing their eighth album. They're un-shy about the camera lens - they were part of an earlier flick on gay rock, Queercore: A Punk-U-Mentary ("Yes, we'd rather have someone else play us in the movie of our lives but how many actors are 6-foot-5?" says Freeman, laughing). They've created a legacy of social upheaval and sonic reduction. And Freeman just graduated from film school after having long made Pansy Division videos for songs like "I Really Wanted You." So, with two fellow students, Freeman gathered old live footage and interview clips, and filmed a bold happy ending with Pansy making a new record, enjoying themselves and the process, and talking about how they'll keep going as long as they can.

As for a gay audience, Freeman says Pansy Division has never really had much of one. "Most of our fans are straight. There aren't too many gay men into rock at all - most are into disco and show tunes. I didn't get that gay gene. I'm into the Beatles and Kiss. The people who embraced us first were punk, so that's been our alliance. But we're still the only band in this genre that's survived, so we have the whole room to ourselves."