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Rich Hofmann: Phillies should start building for next year, starting with acquiring Halladay

AFTER THE STING wears off and everybody gets a couple of nights' sleep, the quiet pride in the accomplishment of making it to a second consecutive World Series will envelop Phillies' general manager Ruben Amaro Jr., and all of them. They should be given some time to enjoy it, too - especially the general manager who is just finishing his first season. Because it was Amaro who brought Raul Ibanez here and it was Amaro who brought Cliff Lee here. They were huge moves, winning moves, and the general manager deserves an opportunity to bask in the whole thing for a good little while.

OK, time's up.

What to do to this roster for the 2010 season is the subject that will consume Phillies fans for the next 3 months - and you can spin it any number of ways. Retooling the bullpen is an annual adventure for most teams and it is for this team. Fortifying the bench, especially with a reliable righthanded bat and possibly with somebody whom manager Charlie Manuel can trust enough to give middle infielders Jimmy Rollins and especially Chase Utley an occasional rest, is also a priority.

But if you watched this World Series . . . if you watched this streaky Phillies lineup go cold against the Yankees . . . if you watched it and weighted it all, it is not hard to come up with a different priority list.

And so, you wonder if it isn't time to reopen the Roy Halladay conversation.

We all remember how it went down in July. Toronto general manager J.P. Ricciardi very publicly shopped Halladay, his ace, whose contract expires after the 2010 season and who wants to win a championship, something likely to elude the Blue Jays for a while. Halladay turned into a municipal obsession in Philadelphia, but Amaro would not part with the wagon-load of talent that Ricciardi demanded. Instead, he made the Cliff Lee deal and was celebrated as hitting the perfect balance between present and future, fortifying his team without gutting his farm system.

A couple of things have happened since then. First, Ricciardi has been fired, replaced by Alex Anthopoulos. Second, the Phillies have just lost a World Series because the other team revealed itself to have the better pitching.

It all just makes you wonder. Could Halladay be on their radar again?

Nobody is saying for sure that the Blue Jays are going to trade him this winter, and reports have indicated that Anthopoulos will be a little less public with his moves than Ricciardi was, but it just makes too much sense. Teams have time now to think it through and arrange their finances to make a deal. And as for the Jays, well, they cannot afford to risk losing Halladay for nothing but compensatory draft choices after his contract expires.

"My gut is that I think 'Doc' wants to be on a winning team," Toronto manager Cito Gaston told MLB.com. "He's probably sitting there looking at A.J. [Burnett] out there pitching [for the Yankees in the World Series], knowing that that's where he'd like to be. It's not about money with Doc. It's about him being on a winning team.

"I can't speak for Doc, but my gut feeling is if he's here next year with us, then he'll probably leave after next year. Hopefully, if that's the case, then we can get something for him before he leaves."

But why the Phillies? Don't they have other needs?

Yes, they do. At the same time, though, this World Series really shined a light on what we already knew: that their potent offense is also a streaky offense and probably always will be. It is just the nature of their personnel. Amaro worked to take some strikeouts out of the lineup and smooth out the ups-and-down when he signed Ibanez to replace Pat Burrell last winter. He could maybe try something similar this year if he decides not to keep third baseman Pedro Feliz.

But there is only so much he can do with that as long as the core hitters remain the same. Which turns you back to fortifying the starting pitching instead.

Same time, next year, this could be the Phillies' playoff rotation: Lee, Cole Hamels, J.A. Happ and Joe Blanton. You have to ask yourself if that will be good enough, especially given Hamels' current status as a wild card. Even if Hamels is better than he was in 2009, will he be all the way back? And as for Happ, his 2009 season was a great summer revelation - but one of the hardest things in the sport is for a young pitcher to duplicate his first successful season.

And so you wonder. Why not Halladay?

Maybe the new Toronto general manager values the Phillies' prospects differently. Maybe the imperatives within the Phillies' organization have changed, too. Maybe the sting of getting close and losing is worse than they imagined. I don't know. But if you asked what was the one single move the Phillies could make that would give them the best chance of beating the Yankees, that's it.

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Comments   
Posted 03:12 AM, 11/06/2009
jeffmacnow1234
No chance, terrible column. Phillies can ill afford to add more to their payroll. In fact I would look for the Phillies to SHED salaries this Winter. Rollins and Howard both could be traded.
Posted 03:45 AM, 11/06/2009
jjenkins
jeffmacnow1234, there is no salary cap in Major League Baseball.
Posted 04:04 AM, 11/06/2009
twixcon
Haven't you learned that you can't just buy players and compete? You bought Lee, Pedro and Blanton and got smoked. So now you want to buy another guy? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. The Yankees came to the WS with over half their roster homegrown. Shame on Philly.
Posted 04:20 AM, 11/06/2009
philliekev04
Yeah kind of a ridiculous article. Who are we gonna give up for him? Let it go already. We didnt get Halladay and we're not gonna get him
Posted 04:49 AM, 11/06/2009
JewishJer
Great column Rich. Jeff and Twix are morons. If you have the assets to make a deal go out and do it. This is about going for it and getting yet another parade down broad street. Happ and prospects will get it done with that clueless management up there in Toronto.
Posted 05:13 AM, 11/06/2009
mainlinephan
jeffmacnow1234: You are either Phillies brass or a moron. Of course, they are one in the same, so that makes you a moron.
Posted 05:34 AM, 11/06/2009
fla
twixcon are you really that stupid? The Yanks won precisely because they bought the top 3 free agents last winter.
Posted 05:50 AM, 11/06/2009
monsieurms
You gotta be kidding. In truth there was no reason the Phils as set couldn't have won the world series if they executed--if Hamels had been Hamels, and I think he will be again. If Lidge had been Lidge. If they had hit Sabathia and Petitte, both of whom were on the ropes. Phils should've swept at home, but did not play well, either offensively or pitching. There is no reason to think that there needs to be huge changes. Bench help. 3rd base upgrade. Bullpen help, perhaps. Giving away the farm for Hallyday is silly.
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Posted 06:56 AM, 11/06/2009
Wino
I wish, I wish. You've got BMW tastes with Kia pockets.
Posted 06:58 AM, 11/06/2009
Mike Kotyk
For God's sake, give up on Halladay already. The guy doesn't want to play here and he's not worth the money he'll demand. We don't need to be wasting money on another overpriced, middle aged player who has not much time left on his arm.
Posted 07:13 AM, 11/06/2009
Wino
Also there's an article in today's paper about the Yankees looking at getting Halladay. If they really want him, they'll get him - the Phillies aren't in a position to outbid the Yanks, that's for sure.
Posted 07:16 AM, 11/06/2009
mick314
I'm with Rich. Package Colbert, Feliz, Mayberry and the rights to The Brunt for The Doc.
Posted 07:17 AM, 11/06/2009
Maddy44
one other advantage to having Halladay is- that other competiton doesn't get him ie. the mets, braves and red sox.....you can't give up what's left of your farm system, "five tool" taylor, brown and drabek,....but, if you could do hamels and a player, or werth and a player that might be worth looking into....maybe hamels,a player and a draft pick would get that done........number one priority has to be mark derosa and another bat on the bench
Posted 07:20 AM, 11/06/2009
jamarder
jeffmacnow1234- thats the dumbest thing I've heard all week
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