Saturday, April 6, 2013
Saturday, April 6, 2013
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Checking out a 'check engine' light

QUESTION: The information you supplied about going to an auto parts store to get a "check engine" light diagnosed is wrong. I tried that a few months ago and was told by AutoZone that our illustrious California legislature has forbidden parts stores from performing that service unless they also will repair the problem.

–Ron Johnstone

ANSWER: Ron, you are correct that in some areas – California and Hawaii among them – certain auto parts stores are no longer offering to retrieve diagnostic trouble codes for customers in the parking lot. The reason is this service lies in a grey area between offering a helpful free service and, on the other hand, diagnosing and repairing vehicles without an automotive repair dealer license.

Additionally, in California, emission-related repairs – all "check engine" light issues – can only be performed by a licensed smog technician or the vehicle owner. It's my understanding that in California, rather than a law, there is an agreement between the state Bureau of Automotive Repair and the big chain parts stores to steer clear of this area. Smaller chains and independents seem to be under the radar thus far.

Free "check engine" light diagnosis is a controversial topic. Consumers can certainly benefit from becoming aware of the severity of a "check engine" light issue, such as whether the engine will quit or become damaged, or whether a repair can be put off. Repair shops likely cringe at the thought that a non-technician may be alluding to or recommending a certain part be replaced or service be performed, based solely on a diagnostic trouble code being present.

Why is it so difficult to be sure of a certain repair or failed part when the "check engine" light comes on? A modern vehicle's onboard diagnostic system is very smart, but almost all identified problems require a human to test additional things before the exact cause of the fault can be found.

Some diagnostic trouble codes, or DTCs, point fairly clearly at a failed part. Take DTC P0135: oxygen sensor heater circuit malfunction: bank 1, sensor 1. In most cases, it will be fixed by replacement of the bank 1, front oxygen sensor. It's also possible a wiring fault or other issue could be the cause. Throwing an O2 sensor at the car, in this case, may fix the problem perhaps 9 out of 10 times.

In another case, DTC P1259 indicates a variable valve timing/lift problem on a Honda, and possibly an expensive part to be renewed. Skilled diagnosis leads to a pleasant conclusion: a simple oil change, using the correct viscosity oil, makes everything right again. Or a Volkswagen Jetta Turbo has a half-dozen or more DTCs at one time – imagine renewing expensive parts for each code on this one – and the single cause turns out to be a failed PCV diaphragm. This simple mechanical fault causes such odd-ball symptoms that onboard diagnostics simply can't figure it out.

The bottom line is that retrieving a trouble code is the first of many needed steps when diagnosing an illuminated "check engine" lamp. Leapfrogging to a conclusion works occasionally, but in many cases leads to unnecessary parts replacement or work performed. A vehicle owner with DTC and proper tools in hand should not be discouraged from attempting repairs, as long as he or she finds and follows available published procedures.

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ABOUT THE WRITER

Brad Bergholdt is an automotive technology instructor at Evergreen Valley College in San Jose, Calif. Readers may send him email at under-the-hood@earthlink.net; he cannot make personal replies.

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Comments  (2)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:10 PM, 04/02/2013
    Not to diminish the value of paying attention to this idiot light but a check engine light can also mean the gas cap is loose or the fuel evaporator hose is disconnected. Neither speak to imminent engine failure. Because the fuel system is pressurized the loose cap may mean that too much gas is "leaking" into the environment. This should be the first thing everybody checks if the engine light comes on. And the evaporator hose simply means that evaporated gas is not being returned to the fuel system but may be leaking into the atmosphere. Something to be addressed but it can wait.

    Everybody should keep in mind that a computer check is only the first step. Itis not a diagnosis by a skilled AND experienced technician.

    Ex: Warning light came on about an ABS failure in my 2002 (130,000 mile) Chrysler Voyager. Took it to dealer whose experienced (12 yrs) mechanic "diagnosed" a failed ABS computer at a cost of $600 to fix. I went to my local and long trusted (30 years) mechanic who said that my brake lines were beginning to collapse from age as evidenced by the very erratic wear I was getting on my disc pads. Repair: replaced the brake lines. Cost $180.00. ABS problem has been gone for 2 years and brakes are wearing fine.

    nebulus
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:17 AM, 04/03/2013
    I have a 2000 Chevy Blazer 4.3 liter. At 90k the idling was low and uneven, and then the check engine light came on. It started hard but otherwise ran well. At the parts store, the code read an O2 sensor failure. I disregarded the code, did not replace the O2 sensor or fuel pump, as some suggested, though fuel feed was definitely an issue. Fuel pressure was usually ok, though a little low when running, but sometimes had no pressure at startup. Surprisingly, for a while it started easier with the gas cap removed. At the suggestion of a former GM Tech, I tried changing the fuel pump relay which shuts off the pump if the oil pressure goes low. No help. Eventually even with starting fluid the engine would not start, or if it did, it ran poorly. I pulled apart the intake and found the upper side crusted heavy with gunk, and the "spider" central port injection assembly was found leaking inside the manifold. After cleaning and spider replacement, all was well. Lessons learned: 1)an auto parts store code read may be useless and cause lots of expensive unnecessary parts replacement; 2)engine controls can keep an engine running ok even when it needs work; 3)find a trusted mechanic or become one yourself by experience
    engineerbob