Agent: Kwame Brown to sign with Sixers; Silas has concussion
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Agent: Kwame Brown to sign with Sixers; Silas has concussion
Bob Cooney
The Sixers have signed center Kwame Brown to a two-year deal worth $6M. (AP Photo)
Kwame Brown's agent said Friday that the center has agreed to sign with the Sixers. Brown, who played for Sixers coach Doug Collins in Washington, would fill the Sixers' big-man void.
The agent, Mark Bartelstein, also told Yahoo Sports that the deal was for two years and $6 million.
Brown, 30, averaged 6.3 points and 6.3 rebounds in 22.4 minutes last season for Golden State. He has averaged 6.8 points and 5.6 rebounds in his 11-year NBA career.
He was drafted first overall by Washington in 2001. He has played for Washington, the Los Angeles Lakers, Memphis, Detroit, Charlotte and Golden State.
The Sixers announced the re-signing of center Spencer Hawes. The team did not disclose the terms of the contract. Hawes has played 118 games (110 starts) and averaged 8.0 points, 6.2 rebounds, 1.9 assists and 1.01 blocks in 22.4 minutes. He shot 47.4 percent from the floor.
In other Sixers news, Xavier Silas was injured at the team's final summer league game in Orlando on Friday. The initial reports indicate that the team is concerned that injury could be a skull fracture. Silas has been sent to an Orlando hospital. The Sixers announced that Silas suffered a concussion and possible frontal bone skull fracture.
Also, Yahoo reported that Elton Brand has been picked up off amnesty waivers by the Dallas Mavericks. The Sixers used their amnesty clause on Brand last week.
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Assets my friends. It just keeps popping into my head how DC and Thorn kept talking about that after drafting Moultrie/Harkless. We could always sneak up on a deal with another team and the way the 76ers work we won't hear about a thing until it is done. I don't see any deals being done now unless it's something crazy involving Iguodala/Thad/Vucevic or Turner or some combinations of those guys. The guys signed recently won't be able to be traded until December so forget about that for now unless Dwight still hasn't been moved and we decide to go for big-time cap room next summer. (and the pieces not traded could easily be traded or will expire at the end of the season anyway). I could see us making a play for someone like Josh Smith or along those lines. Frankly I don't know what Doug Collins wants, unless they are being honest and this team is exactly what they want. I just really think this is a one-year team despite what it might seem like. They will find what they like, keep those players and let the others go. The 2 year deals will be easy to trade cause they expire after the next season and the amount is on par with what the rest of the league is paying players like ours. Next summer around this time is going to be very very interesting. This isn't the summer where major things are gonna happen. Those home-run deals will most likely come next summer, if they come at all...— joecooler2u- "but he is a CENTER"
Well then maybe we can bring back Shawn Bradley!!!!!— MikeD. - Where are the journalists? Cooney and Mitchell you are failing us.
The Sixers have 12 players signed for 2013. Only three guards and they have three centers, having filled a spot and spent the remaining $3 million of cap space on a player with no upside (Brown). Was there no better alternative to spend that money? Why not take a shot at an Anthony Randolph, D.J. White. JJ Hickson. A young player that can be coached into being an asset. Where’s the downside? A higher draft position is not unappealing. Nobody expects a championship team for at least a few years. But at least show some aggressiveness to appear that you have a real plan. The free agent class for 2013 doesn’t not have a Lebron, Bosh, Wade or Melo. So who are the potential saviors we are saving cap room for? Just Howard and Paul?
I’m a fan not an expert. I expect the media to be informed and inform the public; challenge and not just be a PR arm of the team.
Guys please step up.
— xam14 - 76ers fans!— dogbullet2000
Comment removed.- I hate this move and for 2 years. Maybe this is not true, so far all reports state that his agent says he agreed to a two year deal with philly.Have the sixers commented on this acquisition? Nothing on twitter from out tweet friendly owner.— dogbullet2000
- Kwame Brown? I can't sleep trying to figure this out. He's played( excuse me: been a part )of 5 teams before age 31. Never known to be a leader. We amnestied Brand either to get cap space to acquire a good center and shooters or we did it to give the young bigs more playing time. Now, Brown will absorb some of Lavoy's ,Moultrie,Nik and Spencer's playing time and we did not get a good center . Go figure... I'm convinced now that agents have too much influence.....3 million per for two years?? We could have kept Tony Battie for 1 million. He brought professionalism to the locker room and 10-15 minutes when needed. Why did so many teams ship him out? We can only use his salary as a filler to a big trade. Maybe, they're considering moving Thad later for an $11 mil player and need the $3 mill to equalize. Move Thad at our peril.— philsix6
- agreed, really strange roster. Justin Holiday did have the ball a lot, but as you know, any of the quick guards in the league would swipe him easily. Lavoy was def horrendous and yes, not in playing shape. I'm a big fan of his, though - I think he might just be solid at the things he DOES do well and not a guy who can take over a game. So his quality of teammate might make a big difference. But still, utterly disappointing showing. It seems we just filled a summer league roster due to previously committing to do so.
I watched the first half of the Rockets game today - Royce White has some things to figure out from what I saw - it looks like there might be a long learning curve for him. Ross looked great for the Raptors.— phils_tnj1 - phils_tnj1: funny thing: I watched all five games in the Summer League (ugh!) and I was not sure what position Justin Holiday was playing, although Pullen and Rosen seemed to be the point guards, but Holiday handled the ball quite a bit and never saw a shot he did not take. Frankly, nobody looked good enough to make the regular-season roster (including Lavoy Allen who was woefully out of shape). Right now, they have Holiday, Turner, and Young as their guards; they might start Holiday and Young and bring Turner in as backup point guard while also occasionally using Iguodala at the point. Like I said, an odd roster.— chuckw
- Kaman got 8 mil, I think. so at least he was out of our price range. (I think we were 6 under the cap before signing Brown.)
Chuck, Justin Holiday has been playing small forward this summer. He should probably be a 2 guard, but he definitely does not have a good enough handle to run point. But I guess he, Nick Young and Wright could successfully run the weave to bring the ball up. Hell, tell Thad to reverse course, get smaller and try point guard. I mean, Hawes is our power forward! Wait, I know - let Hawes play point and just dribble over his defender's head. We're reinventing the game!— phils_tnj1 - Don't you all start pushing and shoving while standing in line with excitement and glee waiting to purchase your 'Kwame Brown' jerseys.— Xavier19
- i think kaman got a one year deal from the macs yesterday, not sure if it was official— HDemetriou
- bbrady - It seems you have suddenly became really upset bout this team after complaining to me yesterday about Thorn and his ridiculous comments.
I'll say it again. Watch out for Landry, Blair, Humphries, and look at Kaman signing one year deals.
If any of them sign a one year deal we are stupid if any of them sign anything close to this contract we are stupid .
UGGGGH— The Villain ET - Bearsfriend: Bob Cooney tweeted that DC wants to move Hawes to the four, rather than start Lavoy Allen there, which means that Kwame Brown will start at center, as Vucevic is so deep in DC's doghouse he has yet to see any light. Thus, as I noted before, the likely starting lineup is Holiday at the point, Turner at the two, Iguodala at the three, Brown at center, and Hawes at the four, which should be a real treat, with the much better team coming off the bench with Nick Young at the two, Wright at the three, backed by Harkless, Thad Young at the four, backed by Allen, Vucevic in the middle backed by Moultrie, and the ghost of Christmas past at the point (possibly Holiday's brother). At least, Collins will not be going to a small lineup, as this has now become one of the tallest teams in the NBA, with trees everywhere. As for selling the team to the fans based on the playoff run last season, NOT going to happen unless more changes are made as this team is oddly put together.— chuckw
- bears friend this move might finally be the one were the owners can take a step back from there Collins love affair! For a team that really need the fan base on their side might be one of the all time bad moves! I am amazed that he has been in the league for 11 years! But that's what Stern did to this league! My thinking is Thorn is letting Doug hang himself! The only thing that might top this is hiring Dileo as GM! He has done about as much as Brown!— Sam 52
- For all you smart guys who love Dougie you got him lock stock and barrel full of laughs! I guess since we let Brand go we needed another #1 flop!— Sam 52
- I remember when a friend of mine told me the 76ers got Shaq. Turned out it was Charles Shackleford. Today somebody on TV said that the 76ers landed a center who was taken #1 in the draft. OMG, somehow they landed Dwight Howard. Nah, its that stiff Kwame Brown. One commenter wrote: low risk, high reward potential. Are you kidding? This guy is a total stiff that is going to be backing up a fragile total stiff. I really wanted to try to start becoming a 76ers fan again. Can't do it. This team is a study in how to stay mediocre or worse. This team is no better than they were at the end of last season and ping pong balls in Secaucus is a very strong likelihood after this season.— syddan26
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- Sixer ownership and management must be so proud of their latest acquisition. What in the world are they thinking? And what will this do to Darryl Watkins' minutes — xam14
- I'm so repulsed by this move, I think I might just go and vomit right about now. Of all the moves the Sixers could have made, they sign a terrible C to a 2 year deal. Funny how all the fans keep clamoring about NEXT year. Well next year, Howard will probably be in either Houston, Atlanta, LA or Orlando, but he definitely won't be coming to Philly. Josh Smith is number 2 behind Dwight Howard, and for all intents and purposes, will most likely be joining Howard wherever they choose. I keep thinking of the treatment the Iggy is getting from his Team USA buddies about this move, most notably Kobe Bryant. Telling him he better pray he gets traded out of town as soon as possible. This move is pure comedy. I mean, who might I ask, were the Sixers bidding against for his services? Why in the world did he get more money than Elton Brand got? For everyone that's OK with this move, stop enabling this madness. You do realize that all this free cap space is for is to over-pay Jrue and sign another washed up, has-never-been ie Elton Brand. Sure Elton Brand had decent stats, but he put up the numbers on poor teams. I mean, the guy did all his best work as a Clipper for Christ sake.— papabear702
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- xam14:::: Thank you....I just watched the Stephen A Smith and his reaction to the Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol trade (I threw up) its classic....MUST WATCH!!!!!
Attention JOSH HARRIS......either SELL THE TEAM or FIRE Rod (I'm concused) Thorn and Doug (smartest man in BB) Collins....if not you will loose your fan base!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!— bbrady25 - Not angry ,, bbuuuttt,, would have rather they had gone after Magee.
But again you can't cry until next year when it all goes to hell.
And the worst that can happen is we end up in the lottery,— phillyroni - HELL NO!!— FreddyM
- @bearfriend
-Not sure anyone on earth can give a "Reggie Evans 15 minutes"!! Trap the PG 35ft away, then get back to 10ft to cause a tough entry pass, then rebound the miss. We all loved him my friend. I agree totally about a potential miscalculation of the loyalty barometer among the customers. I could not in good conscience be exited to sit down and watch this team as constructed in light of the moves made in the rest of the division. Did you the Houston game? How did white do? I only saw the box, obviously Motiejunas jumped out at me.— Independent_1 - wow bears. what a splash! while I know that its kwame brown we are talking about, our front office and our front court is so pathetic, that I actually cant even rip this signing! there are a 100 bigman, i would rather have then Kwame, but considering I was starting to wonder if we would even get one, I cant really kill an underachiever lime him, who in our pathetic front court, i actually probably instantly our best: screen setter, best rebounder, best player over 6'10 to guard the pick n roll.. besides lavoy, he is the only 6'10 player and up, who actually wants to play in the post...If I were a fan of anyother team, I would be ripping this move. but considering what we had yesterday, and the little confidence I have in this front office, as crazy as it sounds, I cant really kill this move. Then again its like being the tallest midget in the room. lol sad days in sixer land— johnGiam
- Stephen A. on Kwame Brown. Worth viewing. Its all you need to know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PP4RT-vv-o— xam14 - I will refuse to evaluate this deal in a vacuum. It must be a precursor to another deal involving a big (trade chip with Iggy?) or perhaps a deal not for the player, but for the agent for "future unknown payment." Believe it or not, when Kwame was given a chance to pass from the high post some in L.A., he appeared to be able to do it and set screens very well. That's all I got for you. If someone can guess at a correct starting lineup, I'd lay you 3 -1.— Independent_1
- Brown is a vicious screen setter, but I really see his role as giving a "Reggie Evans", 15 minute pounding to opponents, not as a starter,sending Hawes to the 4...More HAS to come....PRwise, despite the Sixers being adamant about "cap flexibility",DC is stretching himself thin...chemistry wise, identity wise if a dependable 4 is not acquired, and the proud fans of 7 weeks ago may become impatient alot quicker than the brass figured....In light of improvements within the Atlantic Division, and the Eastern Conference...people may be wanting to make room in the basement for the table and paddles..cause the ping pong balls are a comin. — bearsfriend
In players we should have drafted news; Terrence Jones had 17 points 9 rebs.- LETS SEE FIRST THE SIXERS SIGN A WHITE STIFF IN SPENCER HAWES NOW THE SIXERS BALANCE THAT OUT BY SIGNING A BLACK STIFF IN KWAME BROWN!— male
- So many similar pieces that i cant help but think -as soon as they know who fits-they are going to do a 3 or 4 for one for someone who is on their radar.
They have for certain improved their shooters so we will see.— All About Sports - They're gonna sell the team based on last year's performance like most playoff teams do. Yeah the roster is made over with 2 key pieces gone but we still have 4 out of our 5 starters from last season returning. Me? I'm excited by having not one but 2 3pt shooters as well as drafting one who can hit the 3 (Moultrie) and Jrue and Iguodala not being bad from 3 this past season. We replaced Brand's toughness (sort-of) with the Kwame Brown signing. If it doesn't work it's an expiring that can be traded next summer or packaged in a deal.
How about this - if we don't trade Iguodala maybe his play in the Olympics might make some stars want to come join him? We'll have lots of free agents and expiring contracts next summer to make moves. Hopefully he keeps up his game on the Olympics team because I see him as being a wildcard. He plays great and they will get 50 point wins. He plays poor and they will struggle and might have some close games. Blake Griffin out hurts them more. Someone needs to step up and I hope it's Iggy. Maybe he will get some respect then. I also feel Wright and N Young will take some pressure off of him to do it all and he might feel loose enough to do what he is doing on the Olympic team.— joecooler2u - Could a trade involving Hawes or Vuc be coming soon?
Why waste a roster spot on a third string center without much upside?
Who will score in the frontcourt?
Hinrich signed with the Bulls for $3.0.
Have the Sixers improved this off season? Yes, perhaps slightly over last year. But they have fallen far behind the teams in their division who have improved a a much greater rate. Unless their objective to to win ping pong balls as opposed to basketball games.
Hopefully the next moves (trading Iggy for youthful upside & picks) will add sense to this signing.— xam14 - Dumb. Rod is just dumb.— alwaysphil1
- T-Money::: I'm still LMAO and hour later....your comment about "checking Rod Thorn for fractured skull" is one of the best ever on this board.....fractured skull....he looks like he's had a few over the years....and don't forget that coconut that J Mitch is sporting....something had to happen there as well.....— bbrady25
- I am still trying to figure out what the 76ers are doing here. While I am relieved that an actual front court player(as opposed to swingman, wing player, etc etc)was signed, what has Kwame Brown EVER done to warrant signing him(at any number)and use your team's ONLY amnesty option on a total professional like Elton Brand, who had only 1 YEAR to go! Certainly, as an organization, the 76ers can act like they are eliminating a mistake(a "mistake" that was considered first by Billy King), but they are not using the cap space well, that they have created . Building a team is not ALL about expiring contracts; you have to sign the RIGHT free agents, and you have to USE your draft picks well, not trade them away recklessly. Why do I have a feeling that RC Buford or Sam Presti(or Jerry West back in the day)would have kept Brand, and would, if necessary, traded Iguodala on draft night(after initially signing Iguodala to a more team friendly deal)? At this point(and it hopefully changes)this team is starting to look like a 12-cabs-for-12-players type of "team". By the way, Danny Ferry wouldn't be looking too bad in the GM chair now.— 76erfn
- would have rather kept brand but he is gone, brown is here no offense bigger and stronger than hawes or vuvecic don't see him getting alot of minutes maybe he can get physical (big maybe brown is injury prone) with rookies in practice to toughen them he is on the team now deal with it...— only 9
- —Once more it seems to me this move makes sense, mostly if not only, if they're planning on trading Iguodala. Without Iggy and Brand, they are soft up front and toughness is mostly what Brown brings. No offense to speak of, decent defender, good rebounder, but definitely tough. He had pretty much taken over the starting center spot at Golden State last year before he tore up his shoulder. However unlike Brand, Brown won't need his rotator cuff, because he can't shoot anyway.— aintnorep
- Looks like the Mavs didn't save us too much money. They're only paying Brand 2.1 million so 76ers still owe him $16 million. I was hoping tthe Mavs and Lakers would bid higher but oh well. It's offical Elton Brand is a Maverick...— joecooler2u
- He stinks.....complete was of $3M per year....no way to justify it....and beyond the money and the fact that he blows and the fact that he isn't part of the future and the fact that YOUR FANs HATE IT....
From a basketball standpoint every minute he is on the court is one minute less of potential development of your young BIGS....he stinks— bbrady25 - GREG ODEN? Ohio State is looking for work.— All About Sports
- This "mega turd" has now played on 7 teams during his career.....
Kwame Brown BLOWSSSSSSS!
The more I read this board one thing is clear to me....anyone who can sit there and JUSTIFY this move deserves the organization the 76ers have become which is:
-- 1 NBA finals appearance in the past 30 freakin years!!!!
-- drafted 27 players since 1997 (pre Iverson) and ONLY 1 player IGGY has actually played in an all star game (1 time) and of the 27 draft picks 6 were lottery picks!
-- Elton Brand was the BIG TIME FREE AGENT BABY we signed when we finally had enough money to be an off season player!!!! Yahoo
-- DC has never won anything....look that up...its a fact!!!
Josh Harris WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!— bbrady25 - Having watched this bust in DC for too long, let me confirm that this guy never wanted to play basketball and never did anything to become better at basketball. How any team would spend any money to sign him is a complete mystery. He has NEVER been any good and should be out of the league. What a terrible signing!— rickm
- Wright and Kwame both had decent games last year for GS when they upset Miami and their
Big Three...Brown does blow but IF he stays healthy this is a good move for the league min.— sedale - It's official...the Mavs signed EB for $2.1M. The Sixers pay the other $16M— mtairy1
- WTF!!! Dumbest moved by RT and DC. Kwame brown are they kidding me.What an idiot move!! i'd rather have Greg oden than kwame brown. they are wasting money with this kind of moves. why don't RT and DC quit already they don't know what their doing.— Wolverine42
- 1 year, who cares.. but 2???— jodya2
- Brown has never impressed. He's just a big guy who lacks talent. Maybe on a team like Miami, he could give the starter a few minutes rest and it wouldn't really hurt the team, but on the Sixers,he cannot help.
By the way, I'm surprised that noone has commented onthe obscene salaries that pro athletes command. Imagine, a mediocre player like Brown getting 6 m illion dollars and people willing to pay a fortune to see him while teachers are called greedy for wanting a cost of living raise. Of course, in a country like this where soaps and People magazine rank tops, what do you expect?— Drumgoole - Did Collins just create a stretch 4 in Hawes after not getting one in FA? I just don't see how Hawes is going to stick with the more athletic power forwards. Heck, DC himself would throw Thad out there against him - and would probably be happy with the results.— phils_tnj1
- This signing moves the needle on age as Kwame becomes our 1st 30 yr old. DC has a team dominated by youth with very few vets. As chuckw said this team is going to be hard to sell to it's fanbase.
To anyone who thinks this is an on the court improvement Kwame is not nearly as tough or as good with the ball as EB. He can't shoot like EB and he isn't a leader like EB. This has nothing to do with the on the court product this is all about short contracts and staying below the cap.— mtairy1 - The rookie center Hamilton can do the same things.— gubbers97
- Kyle Korver joining Lou Will as a Hawk. Wonder if they are getting Iverson next...At least they played together years ago back in the AI era 2005-2007 so they'll have that old chemistry to fall back on.— joecooler2u
- Nice Signing. I like the way they are thinking. keep it up 6ers.— Tyrone Biggums
- Well this confirms the FO is more concerned with the luxury tax than winning. This also officially gives us the worst bigs in the league...Hawes, Lavoy, Vuc, Kwame, an undersized Thad & a rookie. I have no faith in the 1st 4, they'll be journeymen. I'm not sure any of them can dunk. Let's hope Moultie develops quickly.— mtairy1
- Right now the question is this: how do you sell this coming season to fans when you are allegedly aiming at the 2013 season? Doubtless the advertisements for tickets will focus on the visiting teams. Certainly, a bizarre collection of players. Presumably, DC is desperate for a ring and is going all in for 2013.
Bear: did not see Collins and Thorn laughing, but did see Collins talking non-stop, which Dennis Scott noted, and did see the Thorn half-time interview which made it clear that Lavoy Allen was not going to be a starter, which implied a deal on the horizon, which, alas, turned out to be Kwame Brown.— chuckw - They had Michael Curry surrounded, and DC was on a roll , like he was Jay Leno...maybe they were joking about the state of the Magic if Curry gets that job...or maybe they were talking about how much Kwame eats on game day...One thing the Sixers got is a mammoth moving screen, as I have him in my "TOP 5" dirty screen setters...Saw that interview with Thorn...I'm just surprised this deal has a "player's option"...Mark bartlestein and the Sixers seem to have something going on here...Someone should check which clients of his will be Free Agents in 2013...Remember, Royce White at 6:00! — bearsfriend
- I still cant believe they signed Kwame Brown....— ssaun
- and...just like every other move, why assume that this is last move of season. make significant moves just about every day, so far. yeesh. chill, y'all.— fishtown charlie
- fine with it. sixers are not getting a top 123 lottery pick, so why does everyone want to sixers to COMPLETELY SUCK. not possible. too much talent as is. but they are FINALLY not signing average players for way too much money. waiting for moment. not now.— fishtown charlie
- This is brutal. Instead of going after a guy like Aaron Brooks as the backup PG they bring in Kwame (who needs a mask and a gun to steal money?) Brown. wow. Brooks led the league in 3PM the year before Dorell Wright. That would have given other teams fits, bringing both of them in off the bench. Instead Rod Thorn goes out and signs Charles Shackleford's ugly brother from another mother. Brutal.— T-Money
- Somebody should check Rod Thorn for a fractured skull.— T-Money
- Kwame Brown will probably need one of said stretchers, Quixote.— phils_tnj1
- Come on the Sixers are waiting for next year...that is why this is a TWO year deal..
And you don't sign complete idiots on July 13th and think when we make that huge blockbuster trade he will be a fill in! You can sign 2828 other people...nobody wants Kwame Brown associated to their name or career.— The Villain ET - I just don't see how you can look at this roster and say the Sixers need a power forward. After Young gets the starters minutes and Allen gets the newly minted $6 million contract minutes and the rookie plays 8-12 minutes, how many more PF minutes are there? Without trading Young, the Sixers aren't in the market for a PF. They needed a back-up center and they need a back-up PG who can play real minutes and a superstar at any position but not a PF. they should try to sign Antawn Jamison to be the second team scorer.— UncleStosh
- Brilliant move; Sixers have a load of short contracts and soon to be expiring contracts and now have a real chance at a lottery pick next season as well as signing top-tier free agents. Season tickets for 2012 will also be offered at huge discounts.— chuckw
- BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!— rev
- Basketball, what a racist sport.— neddyflanders
- Shabazz Muhammad, Tony Mitchell, Cody Zeller, Archie Goodwin, Isaiah Austin, P.J. Hairston....
Oh, I figured since the team is looking to next year already I could do the same....— MadChemist13 - Sixers aren't winning any NBA Championships anytime soon and they know it ... this is a stop gap cover their asses move ......next year will be the big FA year— anthemra
- Obviously the Sixers are looking towards next years free agent class. Still paying Brands salary will hand-cuff them from making any big splashes this year. But let's be honest Sixer fans without the addition of say Howard we will never get out the East with the current rosterno matter who they picked up?— Micknasty
- Could've gone after Henry Sims from G-Town for much less, more upside, young, great passer, decent FT shooter and has some hops.— momzer1812
- Wow - Sixers brass had a great idea: "People are not happy with Spencer Hawes - we need to make him look more attractive. I know, we'll sign Kwame Brown at half Spence's pay - anybody looks good compared to Kwame Brown."— phils_tnj1
- Collins is making the team deep with average players so he can keep the players with above average potential as cogs in his system. He doesnt want one player to be a star— Zeru
- OH! Real quick..
It was
1. Humphries
2. Landry
3. Dejaun Blair
That Thorn openly came out and said we weren't getting. Please let's track these guys to see what they get...even if they sign a 1 year 6 million...we COULD Have done that— The Villain ET - Actually, they only had $3 million left under the cap so, no, they couldn't have signed anybody for $6 million for one year. — BeFrank
- LOL@ Collin's love for veterans regardless of ability... lol— Zeru
- TWO YEARS SIX MILLION?!??!!?!?!?
WOW!
You couldn't even sign Nick Young for 2??????
Like I've been saying...Thorn has quickly shot down Humphries, Landry and more in about 5 milliseconds...but he loves this move!
Chris Kaman signed for 1 year...and so did many more BUT WE GIVE...
Kwame Brown...the biggest flop in NBA History...2 years...6 million...after playing a whopping 9 games last year...
Oh the ESPN Article, which isn't written by local guys, but somehow has tons more of information...states Kwame thinks of Doug as a "Father Figure"
— The Villain ET - Before everyone totally criticizes this move, you have to keep in mind that Philly is trying to set up for a major trade either this summer or by the deadline next February. Their primary target is a big man and their biggest trading chip is Iggy. If you are going to trade a big for a small, you would also like to have a big come back your way as well. If Philly goes after Al Jefferson or Pau Gasol, they can add either Nic, Hawes, or Kwame with Iggy. Kwame is not as bad as everyone thinks. He played well in Detroit and that's why Golden State gave him a nice one yer deal. He just had his share of injuries.— earat903
- If they were trying to setup for a trade then EB's $18 million expiring contract was the way to go, instead of signing Hawes and Brown to 2yr deals. There's no bigger trading chip than an $18mil expiring contract. And Iggy is the only player on the roster attractive enough to make a quality player want to come here. And yes, Kwame is as bad as everyone thinks
I just watched a Thorn/Collins interview on NBA.com, the Sixers are waiting for next years crop of free agents. I guess I can skip getting League Pass this year. ( I live in Pittsburgh ) I have to pay $s to watch my Philly teams. I'll save myself $120. Thanks Thorn/Collins, and by then, we'll know if Harkless, Moultrie are any good and if Turner continues on his path as a complete bust. I feel sad. I think I'll go pour myself a Johnny Walker Black.- Let me just run out to Sports Authority and get me a Kwame jersey....before they are all gone.....this guy is such a stiff, they have to look in the obituary every morning to make sure he is still breathing....Gene Shue or Doug Moe deserve more money than this clown...maybe Harold Katz could talk Roy Hinson into a driveway pick up game again....and Shawn Bradley is still available.....just go away with Kwame Brown....unbelievable— j.k.
- I like this signing. I think HE is going to do the DIRTY WORKS for us that most of our curent players can't.
— phillafuN - Kwame Brown, I'd rather have Larry Brown, even Hubie Brown. But Kwame Brown. Total waste of a spot on the team. Rather have Shawn Bradley— ziller0604
- terrible signing!!! worst move of the offseason, forget my season tickets!!!!— Njtod10
- actually great idea Rod Thorn! We're on pace to tank this upcoming season and get a great draft pick in a poor 2013 draft class! Man Rod is smart!— wick3280
- I dont know much about the sixers or basketball but i do know that many sports sites are basically making a mokery that any team actually signed this guy. Didnt his last team finish with the worst record in the history of the league???
-not bob levy— remyy - I've been faithfully watching this free agent situation and hoping that the Sixers acted wisely. I'm just a fan and not an expert by any means but this K. Brown signing has now allowed me to sign off and concentrate on something else. I've seen him plenty over the past ten years and he just cannot play. I just cannot believe that the Sixers could possibly believe that he is a piece of the rebuilding effort. Methinks that this will be a moot point come the fall as Brown will either be injured or will be in the permanent Collins' dogbox and taking up an expensive spot on the bench.
Just cannot believe that Collins & Co. would want to go down this very bumpy road again. Well, so much for my interest in the offseason. As Ebeneezer Scrooge said, "I'll retire to Bedlam."— World - you people are an embarrassment, no he is not a special player, but he is a CENTER, something we dont have. You all love your sixers but dont see games outside of local. Hawes is a toothpick, end of story. Maybe they will trade him.
Last year you all wantes THAD. I told you he wasnt special. Get a clue— Pearchair - "but he is a CENTER, something we don't have..."
Anyone notice that both teams in this year's finals either didn't have, or didn't play, centers at all? Hawes couldn't even get on the floor when the Celtics - also without a center - went small. That's the way the league is going. You don't NEED a center to just take up space. Big is good, but that means big wings, big guards, a bruiser or two to rebound. You just don't need a center.— jmk1512 - He's not gonna play a whole lot, 15 minutes a game, tops. They have to fill out their roster, folks. It's not like he's going to be a starter. Additionally, he's 6 fouls a game for when they play Dwight Howard. Don't judge the signing until the roster has been filled out.— beegal99
- Kwame Brown is an absolute beast!! I can't wait to see the new twin towers I'll call Spencer Brown.... Who'd down with the Brown? What? Yeah!!! Okay!! Kill... Kill... Kill... Chop.. Chop.. Chop... Kill... Kill.. Kill... Chop... Chop... Chop... Happy Friday the 13th sixers fans :)— FetchDixon
- lol can I please have 2 years 6 million? I would sell soo many more tickets than kwame brown and I wouldnt even touch a basketball!— wick3280
- WTF is this team doing?
They made it to the EASTERN CONFERENCE SEMIFINALS as a YOUNG, DEFENSIVE, HARD-WORKING team.
Then they sign Nick Young Kwame Brown both CANT PLAY DEFENSE, which is the only reason they were successful in the playoffs.
If they wanted to sign a scorer, then go get a potential YOUNG STAR like Ilysova or Anderson, NOT SPARE PARTS garbage like Young, Brown, Wright, etc— astroqueen0 - I am excited to see how Doug is able to bring this group together, but this team is NOT as talented as last years. This signing continues the trend of short duration, low (relative) salary, tall and long. But this team is woefully short of GRIT, TOUGHNESS and PROFESSIONALISM. Doug may be Coach of Year if he gets these guys back to the playoffs! Lots of flexibility with the roster though with only Thad signed beyond 2 years I believe.— JBP
- JBP:I truly believe as good of a coach as DC is, I also feel he has a touch of "mad scientist" in him, and he is certainly driven by ego..What better boost to his ego than resurrecting Kwame Brown, and making Spencer Hawes,of all people, his vaunted "stretch 4"....If this 2cnd year is REALLY a "player's option", I've got to think there's a collusion thing going on with the agent...Someone should research what free agents Mark Bartlestein has next year. — bearsfriend
- Kwame Brown.....are you kidding me! Hahahaha. Just what are these guys smoking??? Larry Bird was right, whatever the sixers do they always make the wrong move and this is the wrong move!!!— jmb53
- K Brown, good move. I trust Collins putting the pieces together.
He's the best at it.— Willysoup - Wow, Kwame Brown?!?! I'd have been much happier if they'd have taken a flyer on Greg Oden. Doesn't give this team a thing - not veteran leadership (a la Battie), not toughness (a la EB), not scoring, rebounding, or anything else. From what I remember of him, he's got a terrible work ethic and a worse disposition, turns it over a ton, and can't shoot foul shots. Don't understand this move at all...
- So when there were bigs that we could have drafted and took a SF there were people saying be patient a move was coming and we actually needed depth at SF. Now after adding more SFs since then and this, am I still supposed to wait for some magical move by this great basketball regime? I just want to know how this works. Zeller, JOnes, Sullinger, Nicholson and White. Keep those names in mind when you put on that Kwame Brown jersey.
- It is official, people that work for the Sixers must comment on here. When Scola is about to hit the market you guys really like the signing of Kwame Brown? (in my Stephen A. Smith voice) Just laughable.
- That Scola point is an interesting thought. He could contribute a great to the Sixers as a starter. But if he gets amnestied he has to clear waivers first. The 76ers may get a shot in waivers because they are currently under the tax and cap (I think), but we may not be high enough up to actually get him. — OutofTownPhillyFan
- i get the other signings and trades this offseason. i even get drafting mo harkless. i get the plan to build tradeable assets while determining how good the turners/holidays/thad youngs of the team will be. i don't get this one. especially for two years. there's much better talent out there that would sign the same contract at the same price. this isn't a tradeable piece! this isn't someone who will give anything more than what tony battie gave you last year! this is how computers get tossed out of homes! i'm shutting mine down and going for a walk....to the nearest bar....to spend $ that was going towards season tickets!!!!!!!— 76ers in 2076
- Kwame Brown is h-o-r-r-i-b-l-e!! Man I pray the young guns pan out...Hope Xavier Silas is ok.— ssaun
- WHAT? 1st move this summer that I don't like!— ChangeISNeeded
- WHAT? 1st move this summer that I don't like!— ChangeISNeeded
- LOL@Power9less) forward.
— WantToKnow - Well, they got the big man everyone was clamoring for (althoug not Kwame Brown), and he is certainly well rested, having played in 9 of the 66 games last season. One thing for sure, the Sixers are a big team and Collins is apparently intending to move Hawes to the four, leaving a starting five potentially of Holiday, Turner, Iguodala, Hawes and Brown, potentially one of the worst shooting starting five in NBA history. Of course, Nick Young might start at the two, with Turner coming unhappily off the bench.— chuckw
- Charles Shackleford redux— mhhartz
- This isn't about this year: Kwame stinks. It isn't about next year: Brown will be cashing checks that could go to someone who can actually play. Or is it aboug Doug's ego, our genius coach/de facto GM showing us that he can recreate the tremendous success he had in Washington with one of his ex-Wizards? Oh. Doug didn't succeed in Washington? Sorry.— iceman
- 6'11 plus 270lbs plus slow plus injury prone EQUALS "MEGA TURD"
We just signed not for ONE but TWO years one of the biggest MEGA TURD'S in the NBA....in 11 seasons he has only played 2 full seasons.....he is always freakin hurt and can't play at all!!!!!!!— bbrady25 - A collection of mediocre players might be just what Collins wants and the guys he likes to coach in his team concept. But a team without two go-to players (or even one in the Sixers case) isn't going to be a true contender. Kwame signed? Doubt he makes it the year with Collins on his tail.— mumf86
- Again, another piece that can be moved in order to sign or retain the right players next off season. We're really only looking at 3 mil for one year with him which may not be much more than the league min for his tenure. We'll see what he can do.— nceagle
- It's a Player option. No chance he doesn't take the 2nd year. We'll see how many teams come knocking down the door to take Kwame Brown off our hands next year
- Was the 2nd year really necessary???
- Interesting that Kate Fagan predicted Kwame coming last year. From what I read when Kwame was with the Lakers, he was a good rebounder and passer from the high post. At center, this is what DC covets. The issue that lies with Kwame is that he has the tools to become a decent player, but he has a very low drive to improve albeit a low motor. Also, when he was with the Wizards, he did not take criticism well. Curious on why he would want to come back to DC where DC and Jordan destroyed his confidence.— Manok
- Let me start by saying K BROWN COMPLETELY BLOWS!!!
Then let me tell you this...if were thinking about season tickets cancel that check and that thought....so here is how this ownership and management and DC reward the fans who watched and cheered on this team all last season!!!!!
WTF.....
Are you going to tell me that we would not have been a better team if we took K Brown ($3M) and Thad Young ($8M) and if you can add equals $11M and packaged that for either Ryan Anderson--Ersan Ilysova--Kris Humphries and we wouldn't have been a better team?????
JOSH HARRIS....dude PLEASE WAKE UP....you are going to loose some of your much needed fan base if this BS continues....the management and DC are killing YOUR INVESTMENT!!!!!!!!
Kwamee Brown CAN'T PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!— bbrady25 - Joe 'Nickles' Banner has surreptitiously transitioned moved across the street to perform NBA cap management.— barrywil
- How many teams has Brown been with? He seems hard to inspire to do what he is being paid for. Age and height?? 2 yrs??? The guy will be either injured or benched unless he really has changed his manners.— Koons
- The problem here is not so much that they just signed Kwame Brown, he could provide solid depth. The issue is that they now have Kwame, Moultrie, Thad, Vucavic and Lavoy all not up to starter quality and needing significant minutes. That's five key bench roles given to two positions. Either somebody is going to have to start who shouldn't or they are going to have to make a deal to clear roster space for back court depth.— OutofTownPhillyFan
- Kwame Brown has a respectable FG%. I can't say much else about him other than he is used to playing the same avg. MPG that he would likely get here. There is a bit of a personal story that could work out in the teams favor as well. It's easy to consider that kind of thing with a low risk, reasonably inexpensive signing. He promised he would make Doug Collins proud, in '01 I believe. He was clearly not mature enough to hold up his end of the bargain. Collins seems like the kind of coach that will be willing to give him another chance to make good on his promise. At 6'11",270, he is a legitimate big man. It's up to him to play like one. His other stats are way too low to convince any of us that the Sixers have answered the call for a man that can bang down low unless he is receptive to Collins coaching and the Sixers culture of strong defense. I'm ready to watch him play and keep an open mind. The team is in need of a #5 that can lay a little hurt on a showboat once in a while. I still have visions of Wade's dunk at the end of 2011 game 5 when the Sixers had already surrendered. They say revenge is a dish best served cold.
I'm ready to see Lavoy Allen at the 4 while Brown is in the game. Allen is not very aggressive and probably never will be but he gets in position to pull down boards and he has shown some skill with the short/mid range shot and a nice hook. He can block shots if he gets in gear so if Brown brings a little mean streak, Allen may respond in kind.
Looks like Iguodala is staying and I'm fine with that. If Brown can take some direction, Andre can keep him from throwing himself at any and everyone until it's necessary.— Shawn5906 - MJ originaly drafted him for the Wiz and he really tore into him.It was Dougs 1st yr as coach of the Wiz.At least he will block the paint and hopefully get some boards. DC must see something and thinks he can improve him.
Also it is part of the bridge to the next year.— All About Sports - i am almost speechless. boy oh boy if this doesn't clearly signal we are in a holding pattern waiting to roll the dice in the future then I don't know what does.— barrywil
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- After a series of shrewd, thoughtful, culture- and future-building moves...this? Two years? Two years of a 7-foot, 270 pound player who was on the floor for nearly 200 minutes last season and didn't block a SINGLE shot? If Doug Collins gets this guy to play to even half his potential (something Phil Jackson couldn't do), he should win coach of the year...no, coach of the century. This is waste of $6 million very valuable dollars. Hate this move. Hate it.— jmk1512
- Its not like he is a 5-6 year player. He has been in the league for 11 years. Does anyone expect Brown to learn new tricks? Also, why 2yrs? This spot could've given to a younger player with an upside at a much cheaper price. People say this is a low risk high reward move. But I don't see the possible "high reward" at all. Strange move.— penncrow19
- Really!! Kwame Brown— stayoutofphilly
- What are they thinking? They needed a rebounder! This guy stinks.— 4who4what
- Troy Murphy and Anthony Randolph are sitting out there for free! Why Kwame?— boy_wonder
- My concern about this signing isn't just the lack of talent, but I've read interviews with him where he states that he is a really good player (which he isn't). He's more than a little delusional. I'm amazed he came here, because when he came to the league and was mentally and emotionally destroyed by Jordan, who was his coach? Doug Collins, who just let it happen. I'm not expecting anything out of this signing, but then again, we don't have a Billy King or Ed Steffanski to sign him to a big multiyear contract, so that's good at least.— mjc1
- Based on what I know of Brown, and looking at his stats, it looks like he's been injured frequently, playing more than 50 games only twice in the last 7 years. I'm not sure I'm okay with that - it seems like a pretty penny to pay if he's only able to play half a year. What he brings (toughness, size) is what the Sixers need - just not sure if this guy will be able to provide it on a consistent basis. And I'm not sold on Brown-Thad-Lavoy being our starting power forward. Good bench filler, 15-20 minute contributor type if healthy.— pfes
- He looks good in the layup line...Funny thing, during today's Rookie game vs the Pistons, the cameras zoomed in on DC and Rod actually sharing a chuckle. It was about 20 minutes before this deal went down...They're not done though..DC's playing mad scientist..A trade's a coming...down the line. — bearsfriend
- I like what theyre doing everywhere - younger, bigger and more athletic by far. Sixers have the feel of a team that is moving up and closer to being a contender. You have to give credit to the organization, Collins and new ownership.— tr88
- jhean7676 Kwame Brown WAS the #1 overall pick in the 2001 draft made By Michael Jordon of the washington Wizards. This will be his 8th team. Need I say more.....Where is Jeff Ruland!!!— number4not5
- I guess this is wht happens when you hv no money. That exception better go to a PG— boy_wonder
- 6"11" and can't average 1 block per game? Lame.— scootch
- KWAME BROWN??? No hands, no footwork, no speed, no presence - nothing!!! Are you kidding me?? He is so bad, even Jordan admitted he'd made a mistake!!! I don't care if he is paying us!!! Are you kidding me???— golpher300
- The Sixers gave a better deal to Lavoy Allen. They traded a lottery protected pick to Miami for Moultrie. Now do you get it? — BeFrank
- jhean7676, couldn't agree with you more. You are RIGHT!— dudega
- Sad to say, but he plays harder than Hawes, who will have the distinction of creating an entirely new NBA position .... power (less) forward.— PhillyIsHome
- They paid him too much. Who was even courting him? He can't shoot FT n has short arms but he is easily tougher than Hawes and Vuc, who may end up in the D League this yr— boy_wonder
- Bartlestein's blowing smoke, and I'm sure only the first season is guaranteed...since he's Nick Young's agent, I'm wondering if this was the "back end" of some package deal...I still can't believe Nick Young took a one year deal 6 days into the Free Agent process....Anyway, start checking out the 2013 prospects....I'm partial to James Michael McAdoo! — bearsfriend
- The truth of the matter i,s that any he gives, will be an improvement over last year— rustypop58
- Glad to see that they aren't just throwing money and years at players just because they have it. I am completely fine with all the moves they've made to sign guys to 1 and 2 year deals so far. This will keep the cap manageable and hopefully allow them to make a splash next offseason.— JTR
- Not the move I was waiting for. But more importantly, I hope Xavier Silas is ok. Fractured skull?? That doesn't sound good.— World2
- OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE NOT TRUE BASKETBAL FANS COMMENTING HERE AND OBVIOUSLY DON'T WATCH BASKETBALL........KWAME BROWN STINKS!!!!— davised3
- Yes, Brown stinks, but that is the point. Lavoy Allen got a better deal and the Sixers traded a lottery protected pick for Moultrie. They stink next year, they keep the pick. It's a short contract that comes off the books in two years, when the Sixers will have a lot of cap flexibility. — BeFrank
- Agree. Ridiculous. They need a power forward. Not another center. Collins contention is that Spencer Hawes can play power forward. Burn your season tickets now if Spencer Hawes is penciled in at the 4. — mhhartz
- Before everyone starts killing this move, let me just say that obviously Kwame was not a #1 overall pick. But IF he stays healthy, he'll shoot 52-55%, pull down a decent amount of rebs/minute, play serviceable post defense, and most importantly, he's the only guy on our roster now that will hammer someone with a hard foul when we need it. Totally ok with this, even for 2 years— jhean7676
- dude are u serious if were amnestied brand for this lame??? i'd rather had kept elton for 18 mill this this fool are u serious!!! get rob thorn's behind up outta there at least ed stafanski signed brand on hopes he'd return to form it was a gamble and we lost but this is just throwing money way isnt darko avail??? i'd rather javell magee hes a project but at least hes a young project!!! — DJ_Bootleggah
- No, they amnestied Brand so they could sign Nick Young, trade for Dorell Wright and let Brand go to a team like Dallas that could use him off the bench. Signing Kwame Brown is just a part of filling out the roster. BTW, Lavoy Allen got a better deal than this. — BeFrank
- They should start planning the parade route for next June.— syddan26
- The Tonner's going to start stocking up on Genny Cream Ale now for said parade. The Tonner had to resort to drinking gin when the Phillies won the World Series in 1980.
- this is typical of the sixers to sign a lame a bust like brown instead of taking a chance on a draft pick like fab melo or some of the other big kids that were in the draft that we passed on to take two kids hurt lol give me a break!!!! If brown was anything of substance the wizzards lakers pistons and the entire host of other teams that had him would have never had let him walk.... point blank dave zink (rip) is turnin over in his grave!!! — DJ_Bootleggah
- I COULDN'T AGREE MORE - - The Sixers should have drafted Sullinger if they were going into this direction. I would have given Luis Scola a 4 year deal. That's what they gave Thad and he's not even a starter. Elton got 2.1 from the Mavs. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! Kwame Brown will be boo'ed unmercifully next year. This team had no heart or toughness...great move. How did Thorn and Collins explain this one to Joshua Harris?
— jojotr44 - and btw...Spencer Hawes with a bad achilles is suppose to play the PF position now. Why save money for 2013? You only save money for the caliber of players that start on this year's Olympic team. Are any of them available? NO! DO you give a max deal to Jrue next year? Save it for Josh Smith? WHAT A JOKE!!! Chris Paul and Dwight Howard are not coming here this year, next year, or ever! — jojotr44
- Bearsfriend said something was coming. LOVE this signing! Low RISK, HIGH REWARD!— dudega
- OOOO! Yea,I'm sure this was the something he was talking about!!Lol! Worst move of the off season yet!! — nycsixerfan
- "Passionate,Intense,Lottery Protected". — bearsfriend
- Bearsfriend, thankfully, someone who gets it. I don't think the Sixers want to give away that lottery protected pick next year. But in two years, the Sixers will have a lot of flexibility. — BeFrank
- Bammas been waitin for that reward for > 10 yrs. It's ain't comin. Hopefully he can give us 15-20 mins and 6/5/1blk — boy_wonder
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