What they're saying: Eagles-Giants recaps, and a slew of random Eagles nuggets

Philadelphia Eagles' LeSean McCoy (25) leaps over New York Giants' Trumaine McBride (38) during the first half of an NFL football game Sunday, Oct. 6, 2013, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

The Eagles are now the leaders in the awful NFC East at 2-3. Their next four opponents (Buccaneers, Cowboys, Raiders, Giants) have a combined record of 4-15. Here's what they're saying after the Eagles' win on Sunday at the Meadowlands...

Vick not expected to be ready for Sunday; Kelly says no decision has been made - Jeff McLane, Inquirer

Michael Vick isn't expected to be healthy enough to play Sunday when the Eagles travel to Tampa to face the Buccaneers, an NFL source said Monday, paving the way for Foles to start.

Kelly said no decision has been made on whether Vick will play. He labeled Vick day-to-day and said Vick's MRI revealed a pulled hamstring.

Understanding the QB situation - Tommy Lawlor, IgglesBlitz

It sounds like Vick will miss at least one game. The guys on the NFL Network this morning saw the highlight of Vick’s injury and noted that the closer the injury is to the butt cheek, the more problematic the hamstring strain. Vick was grabbing pretty high. He could very well miss a couple of games.

Jimmy note to other Eagles bloggers out there: Anytime you can infuse relevant Eagles analysis about butt cheeks, I'll link to it. 

Eagles in the sky: New wrinkles - Fran Duffy, Eagles Mothership

Tremendous film breakdown as always by Fran. He shows why some plays worked against the Giants, and he gives a film preview of the Buccaneers.

Game review: Eagles offense vs Giants - Sheil Kapadia, Birds 24/7

DeSean Jackson had a monster game with seven catches for 132 yards and a touchdown on 12 targets. We seem to say this every week, but there were plays left on the field. That’s a sign that Kelly is really doing a good job of getting Jackson open throughout the course of the game. Great concentration by No. 10 on the 56-yard bomb that went right through the cornerback’s hands. He also did an excellent job on a low throw from Foles on a shallow crosser, converting a 3rd-and-6 in the third. Jackson ran a great route on the 5-yard touchdown. The Eagles used a bunch look and got him free for a 28-yard catch in the fourth. And he also drew a 27-yard penalty in the third.

* Jackson ran a deep dig and dropped a Vick pass on third down in the first. He couldn’t hang on to a nice throw from Foles in the third. But overall, outstanding game. As of this writing, Jackson is third in the NFL with 525 receiving yards.

Domo's day-after dissection: Eagles-Giants - Paul Domowitch, Daily News

The Eagles’ blitz wasn’t very effective in their three losses to the Chargers, Chiefs and Broncos. Philip Rivers, Alex Smith and Peyton Manning combined for a 123.6 passer rating and a 77.3 completion percentage when the Eagles blitzed.

But they had a lot better luck Sunday against Peyton’s kid brother Eli. The Eagles blitzed Manning on 24 of his 53 drop-backs. Manning completed just 8 of 24 passes for 98 yards and two interceptions against the blitz.

Can Nick Foles win the starting job? Maybe. - Reuben Frank, CSNPhilly

“If he plays well? Yeah, there’s always open competition,” Kelly said. “So if Nick goes out there and throws 100-for-100 and throws 27 touchdown passes, then, yeah.”
Should we take Kelly literally? Is it genuinely possible for Foles to win the job back over a healthy Vick?
Kelly likes to promote an atmosphere where every player has a chance to win a starting job if he plays well enough, but in reality, it would probably be virtually impossible for Foles to play well enough to become the permanent starter at this point.
“If someone comes in and puts on an unbelievable performance,” Kelly said, “you have to take it all into account.”
How well would Foles have to play to continue as the starter?
“I don't know,” Kelly said. “I don't have those answers. We can go through this a million times. If Nick plays this week and does an outstanding job, that would be great for everybody involved.”

Chip Kelly rules Philadelphia - Brandon Lee Gowton, BGN

The Eagles have the city's longest tenured head coach.

Eagles Podcast!

Tommy Lawlor (@LawlorNFL) and I discussed the following:

  • Overview of the season so far.
  • The awful NFC East.
  • Where might the Eagles might land in terms of draft position, and what positions might they address? 
  • The Eagles' current QB situation.
  • The state of the defense.

You can download the podcast here.

(The levels are slightly off. I'm a tad louder than Tommy early in the show, but it's not so distracting that it'll ruin our glorius symphony of football audio greatness. Apologies in advance for that.)

In case you missed it at the Red Zone...

• Chip Kelly stole and improved the 'QB Eagles' run play from Tecmo Super Bowl

• Brandon Boykin dominated Victor Cruz, and did other good stuff

• Handing out 10 awards from the Eagles-Giants game

Some additional random notes from the Eagles-Giants game...

After allowing 383 yards against the Giants, the Eagles no longer have the worst defense in NFL. That distinction now goes to Washington, who average 440.5 yards allowed per game. The Eagles’ stingy defense is allowing just 434.0 yards. The Eagles were also previously on pace to be the worst defense statistically in NFL history. That is no longer the case. Woot.


Against the Chargers, Chiefs, and Broncos, the Eagles had poor starting field position. They lost those three games. Against Washington and the Giants, they started near the 35 yard line, on average, meaning they didn’t have to drive the entire length of the field on every possession.

Against the Giants, the Eagles had to settle for 5 field goals and still racked up 36 points. That’s rare. The defense isn’t going to come up with 4 turnovers every game, obviously, but if they can provide the offense with reasonable field position, the offense is going to score.


Penalties along OL are still a problem. The Eagles' OL had four false starts Sunday (Lane Johnson, Jason Peters, Brandon Graham on a punt, and Allen Barbre). They also had a holding call (Jason Kelce). Johnson is tied for 4th in the NFL among offensive linemen with 5 penalties.


Can the NFL please start enforcing the play clock? The Giants didn’t get the play off in time on several occasions Sunday, and were not penalized:

I hate the explanation that comes with that.  Announcers always say “The official looks at the 0, then looks to see if the ball has been snapped. That's why you may see a 0 on the screen, but they let play go off."

First of all, how long can it possibly take for the back judge to look at the play clock, then the center? Like… 1/20 of a second? Seriously, wherever you are right now, focus on something on the wall, then without moving your head, just by move your eyeballs only, and look at something else. How long did that take? It’s not like your eyeball is going to get stuck at a red light or a traffic jam within your cornea in the fraction of a millimeter that it takes to travel from focusing on the play clock to the center. It really shouldn't be that difficult to enforce.

But since it's so difficult for the officials to flag teams for taking too long to get the play off, let’s just get rid of all the guess work. Institute a loud buzzer in every stadium that goes off when the play clock hits zero, like in the NBA. That way we can take out all the ambiguity that comes along with that rule. Oh, and just to be extra sure, make it reviewable. There’s absolutely no argument against this. Get it done, NFL.


On the bright side of Eli Manning related officiating matters, it was good to see Eli flagged for intentional grounding 3 times. He gets away with grounding perhaps more than any other QB in the history of the NFL.


I’m all for breast cancer awareness, and it’s great that the players wear pink as part of their uniforms, but can we please keep the penalty flags yellow? The pink ones are very difficult to spot. Otherwise, continue on with all things pink.


One of my favorite moments from Eagles-Giants game was the work of play-by-play guy Thom Brennaman. Kurt Coleman had just gotten into a little mini-skirmish with a Giants player on a punt return, and Brennaman attempted to give Coleman a little praise, but didn’t actually have anything to praise him about. Here’s what Brennaman said:

“Give it up to Coleman. He was a guy who started his first 3 years in the league, and now he’s been relegated primarily to special teams…

(5.3 seconds go by, and yes, I timed it…)

“Eagles trailing 7-6.”


Here's Justin Tuck's cheap shot on Michael Vick. When I first saw this hit, it didn't look that bad, as Tuck did a decent job disguising his intentions. On further review, Tuck clearly goes out of his way to give Vick a little shot well after the play, and may have even been aiming for Vick's injured hamstring. (h/t Reddit/r/Eagles). This should absolutely be a fine: