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Wednesday, October 15, 2008


I know nothing about ACORN, other than there is a tree in my front yard with too many.

But having been a political reporter in Philly, I've heard something about how one might steal votes. Which is that it's pretty damn hard, and that vote fraud - ineligible voters or people voting more than once under fake names - is pretty much non-existent. The scare tactics being pitched by Sarah Palin and various other GOP political operatives are just that. This is from Politico:

"Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin suggested Tuesday that Barack Obama shares responsibility for recent reports of voter fraud conducted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

'Obama has a responsibility to rein in ACORN,' Palin said during an interview with conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh.

Palin said the group is responsible for the 'unconscionable situation we are facing now with voter fraud' and attacked the Obama campaign for not addressing the problem after the McCain campaign sent a letter to the Democratic camp urging action against voter fraud in September.' "

The complaint about ACORN is that its workers have submitted fake, erroneous or deliberately fraudulent voter registration forms. No doubt correct.

But it doesn't matter who files a registration form. It matters who enters the voting rolls.

They are the people who vote.

Local voter registration offices exist in large part to screen out the faulty, fake and duplicate voter registration forms that have been around as long as there has been voter registration. Nevertheless, alleging voter fraud is a favorite Republican tactic.

In recent years, rules for getting your hands on a ballot have actually stiffened.

Now, a first time registrant has to produce an ID before getting a ballot. And its supposed to be a photo ID or similar document. If your neighbor "Mickey Mouse" makes it through the local voter registrar's office, Mr. Mouse can only vote if he presents a valid ID, usually a drivers license, showing that he really is Mickey Mouse. If he's John Smith, no ballot, no vote.

These are the ID rules in Pennsylvania for a first time registrant:

All voters who appear at a polling place for the first time must show proof of identification. Approved forms of photo identification include:
Pennsylvania driver’s license or PennDOT ID card
ID issued by any Commonwealth agency
ID issued by the U.S. Government
U.S. passport
U.S. Armed Forces ID
Student ID
Employee ID

If you do not have a photo ID, you can use a non-photo identification that includes your name and address. Approved forms of non-photo identification include:
Confirmation issued by the County Voter Registration Office
Non-photo ID issued by the Commonwealth
Non-photo ID issued by the U.S. Government
Firearm permit
Current utility bill
Current bank statement
Current paycheck
Government check

And the poll workers for one party or the other can still challenge the voter.

Worried about Ohio?

Here's that state's rules:

All voters must bring identification to the polls in order to verify their identity. Identification may include a current and valid photo identification, military identification; or a copy of a current (within the last 12 months) utility bill (including cell phone bill), bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document, other than a notification mailed by the board of elections, that shows the voter’s name and current address (including from a public college or university). Voters who do not provide one of these documents at the polling place will still be able to vote a provisional ballot as described earlier in this guide, and may provide such identification to the board of elections within the 10 days following Election Day. Voters who do not have any of the above forms of identification, including a Social Security number, will still be able to vote by signing an affirmation statement swearing to the voter's identity under penalty of election falsification and by casting a provisional ballot. (Please click here for additional information on provisional voting.)

Massive voter fraud can really only work if the system itself is corrupt - as many believe was the case 48 years ago in Chicago, when the first Mayor Daley was suspected of concocting results to swing Illinois behind JFK.

A corrupt system can vote the dead or people moved away.  Poll workers could stuff ballots, vote people who haven't come to the polls, or maybe rig electronic vote counts.

But ineligible voters swinging an election? In 2006, four years after the Justice Department made election fraud a priority, this was the list of major prosecutions. It's from a press release entitled: Fact Sheet: Department of Justice Ballot Access and Voting Integrity Initiative:

-In Alabama, a jury convicted the former sheriff of Jefferson County and his attorney of conspiracy to defraud the United States and theft of government property in connection with their use of records of the National Crime Information Center to conduct criminal history searches of absentee voters to support an election contest.

-In Florida, in the first jury convictions involving the new felony campaign financing crimes enacted by Congress in 2002, two defendants were convicted for making conduit contributions to curry favor with federal officials, wire fraud, and money laundering in connection with a land fraud scheme. The lead defendant was sentenced to 10 years’ imprisonment and restitution of over $12 million.

-In Kansas, a congressional candidate pleaded guilty to bank fraud and embezzling campaign contributions and was sentenced to 15 months of imprisonment.

-In New Hampshire, the former New England Regional Director of the Republican National Committee was convicted by a jury of telephone harassment charges in connection with a scheme to prevent voters from getting to the polls in the November 2002 federal elections by jamming phone lines of local organizations. He was sentenced to 10 months of imprisonment and a fine of $10,000. Two additional defendants, including the former Executive Director of the New Hampshire Republican State Committee, pleaded guilty in connection with the scheme, and a fourth defendant is currently under indictment and awaiting trial.

-In Kentucky, 12 persons were convicted of vote buying in recent federal elections, and eight more persons were indicted on vote buying charges last week.

-In West Virginia, 15 persons were convicted of vote buying in recent elections.

Nothing about fake people voting, is there?

Click here for Philly.com's politics page.

Posted by Nathan Gorenstein @ 6:25 AM  Permalink | 49 comments
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Posted by ardenoid 08:04 AM, 10/15/2008
The Repulicans are experts at stealing elections. If this is the way to do it, they would be knee deep in it and not complaining about it.
Posted by deldog64 08:38 AM, 10/15/2008
As election day draws closer the Republicans are becoming more and more desperate because they know they have lost. Many simply cannot believe that the majority of the population have finally become awake enough to throw them out of office. Everyday there is some sort of new scandal to try to discredit Obama because they simply cannot compete with him on a fair issue based agenda. As for Acorn they pay these college kids per voter registration form they hand in so that of course leads to them submitting false forms.
Posted by Mr. Baseball 08:51 AM, 10/15/2008
Not to mention that it would be illegal for ACORN to fail to submit any registration forms it collected. This whole thing is a bunch of BS to distract from the real issues. It also will help set up any GOP court fights over results it is unhappy with, or to foster an "everybody does it" attitude among the public when the reports of real fraud by GOP operatives on election day start rolling in.
Posted by Grill 08:59 AM, 10/15/2008
Come on Nathan, you covered Local 98 for years. You know EXACTLY how they commit voter fraud in South Philly. They get guys from S. Jersey to wait until later in the day and then they go and "vote" all over the city as people who are registered but have not voted. Yes this is how the DEAD voter in Philly folks. ALSO< get this at some polls you actually have political operatives serving as Judge of Elections. Imagine that. And these are the folks the DON'T ALWAYS check ID if you know what I mean. So while it is great that first time voters are SUPPOSED to have their ID checked if they are registered at precincts in which the Judge of Elections is working for one tema over another and getting paid to do so by one party IDs most likely will not be checked. You are better than this Nathan...
Posted by writerstephen 09:17 AM, 10/15/2008
Grill: Assuming you're right for the moment, is it the Democrats and ACORN alone who are guilty of this? Or does it happen on both sides? Are Republicans simply too honest and above-board to go in for this type of fraud? If it's ACORN and the Democrats, it sure hasn't helped them win the last two presidential elections.
Posted by didderbops 09:21 AM, 10/15/2008
Interesting too that most of the states that you mention at the end are "red" states
Posted by SNS08 09:40 AM, 10/15/2008
ACORN issue = No "there" there Ayers/Wright, etc. = No "there" there It's what most thinking people have known all along after reading and looking at the FACTS 2008 GOP campaigns = a generation of irrelavance Whiney McCain supporters = uniformed, lazy, repeat-robots.
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Posted by lan1122 10:25 AM, 10/15/2008
Xi Jah is so annoying with his/her/it's rants and raves. I'm sick of seeing that name all over the blogs and the same stupid comments over and over again. Wish his/her/it's computer would break down for a few days.
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Posted by Politburo 11:39 AM, 10/15/2008
ACORN does not pay per registration form (that's actually illegal in some states).
Posted by racheyrach 12:13 PM, 10/15/2008
i'm glad you are fine with millions of dead and made-up people voting. in philadelphia, they don't require a photo id. anyone can vote as much as they want. i actually asked them if they wanted to see my id in the primaries this year, when i voted for hillary, and they said "no, that's ok." when i pressed them about how they would know it was really me, they said, "we'll know you now for next time." it didn't make any sense, was completely ridiculous and indicative of how voter fraud happens.
Posted by racheyrach 12:13 PM, 10/15/2008
i'm glad you are fine with millions of dead and made-up people voting. in philadelphia, they don't require a photo id. anyone can vote as much as they want. i actually asked them if they wanted to see my id in the primaries this year, when i voted for hillary, and they said "no, that's ok." when i pressed them about how they would know it was really me, they said, "we'll know you now for next time." it didn't make any sense, was completely ridiculous and indicative of how voter fraud happens.
Posted by notojm 12:37 PM, 10/15/2008
what was the point of this piece? more mindless drivel for the low-info masses in philly........
Posted by Delaware Vol 12:42 PM, 10/15/2008
Distractions, all distractions!!! LMAO!!! Obama is a Creeep, a Thug and a Crook!!!
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