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Thursday, April 17, 2008

PA Primary Team reports:

There's much commentary this morning (including among our commenters) about the quality of questions in last night's Philadelphia debate. Does bringing up the Weather Undgerground really add to the discussion as we face a critical vote?

Will Bunch, one of our bloggers, takes this on in an impassioned way on his blog, Attytood, with an open letter to ABC:

You implied throughout the broadcast that you wanted to reflect the concerns of voters in Pennsylvania. Well, I'm a Pennsylvanian voter, and so are my neighbors and most of my friends and co-workers. You asked virtually nothing that reflected our everyday issues -- trying to fill our gas tanks and save for college at the same time, our crumbling bridges and inadequate mass transit, or the root causes of crime here in Philadelphia...

Instead, you wasted more than half of the debate -- a full hour -- on tabloid trivia that for the most part wasn't even that interesting, because most of it was infertile ground that has already been covered again and again and again.

What did you think?

Posted by PA Primary Team @ 9:10 AM  Permalink | File Under: Media Watch | 30 comments
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Posted by Mitchum 10:00 AM, 04/17/2008
Well said -- ABC should be ashamed.
Posted by Ken McGee 10:14 AM, 04/17/2008
In the Chicago "Black Sox" scandal of 1912 a litle boy said to "Shoeless Joe Jackson (a star of the team) "Say it ain't so Joe" As a long time admirerer of Charlie Gibson, I have to say this to him today...."Say it aint so, charlie. You are either doing the bidding of your corporate "elite" owners, or you are in the tank for the Clintons...either one or both! Say it aint so, Charlie.
Posted by Tammie 10:24 AM, 04/17/2008
Clearly, in no way can that type of behavior in journalism be tolerated by the public. That was a shot fired across the bow of the people - it's people vs. media if that becomes a normal "debate". It was an intentional failure for providing the voters of PA with real information. I won't even comment on who won or lost. There was no winner of that -- the public was the loser.
Posted by johngirl 11:03 AM, 04/17/2008
its a shame that a former clinton staff george was allowed to moderate a debate,the people of pa deserve better,America deserve better,i am undecided but my vote now goes to obama,my family previously for clinton will be voting for obama.this was clearly a hack job to smear obama,the media lied to us and gave us bush now they want to force john mccain down our throats so we will be at war for 100 years.ABC news should be ashamed.shame on ABC and FOX.daily news and philly enquirer rocks
Posted by smcclair 11:06 AM, 04/17/2008
TERRIBLE QUESTIONS, IT DID NOTHING TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF AMERICANS. JUST A WITCH HUNT FOR BOTH CANDIDATES.
Posted by JanetT 11:09 AM, 04/17/2008
Tammie I agree with you wholeheartedly, no winners in that debacle last night, just a bunch of losers.
Posted by PA Voter 11:13 AM, 04/17/2008
It wasn't a debate, it was an ambush. Hillary did well - which isn't too tough when the moderators beat your opponent for you. Did anyone notice the continued closeups of Chelsea, Rendell and Nutter? The entire thing was biased and Hillary responded like a shark in the bloody water. Her type of politics, to be sure. I was an Obama supporter before the "debate", but am more now steadfast than ever. We need change and we need it now.
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Posted by A.R. USA via Canada 11:30 AM, 04/17/2008
The real issues concerning the voters eliminated and only totally unrelated issues where put to the candidates. Clintongate, lost as she is just a political lobbyists candidate. Obama has more of the common sense answer, when all issues unrelated issues address to him. The voters wanted answer to their, stressful lives along with the bitter taste in their mouths as to what happen to their American Dream!? As a relocated Pennsylvanian, who lived in Philadelphia and the Pocono Hills, and saw both sides of the coin in how/why people think/say along with the situation that is stressing all races and faiths! Senator Obama (White and Black American) has/is living the reality of what it is truly the America Scenario and Voice! And, so far has reached out to UNITE NOT DIVIDE because this is a part of his heritage! Voices of Americans have join this truly Historic Movement with Pride being put back with Honesty in the Values of Americans, which only has been stemmed by Senator Barak Obama! God Bless America and the Next President Barak Obama 2008!
Posted by EvelynC 12:59 PM, 04/17/2008
ABC is licensed to use the public airwaves. After last night's performance by George Stephanopoulos and Charles Gibson, I wonder why ABC deserves to keep that privilege. It is clear from their shallow, right wing biased, uninformative questions that Charles Gibson, George Stephanopoulos and their producers are clueless about their responsibilities to inform the public.
Posted by Jeanie 01:07 PM, 04/17/2008
From beginning of the debate, with the whole annoying distraction of asking these candidates to run on the ticket with the other. We are to presume these are compatible democrats. They are not. I am one of many who would never vote with a Hillary Clinton on the ticket. As an American, I am offended by my candidate being asked more than once to profess his patriotism. Where is his flag pin? I don't wear one, I don't see Hillary wearing one? Did Bill have one? Is that the pin you get that marks your patriotism or your memebership in the great one world government? Barack Obama is being American Politicked. His truths are scrutinized, and Hillary's lies are washed down. Every week we get a "good old boy announcement from Bill Clinton, old Slick Willey". Hillary is not very presidential as she stands up there and sheepishly says, well, I just think the American People ,.blah blah blah. Then in the next statement, Hillary says well, I misspoke and I apologized. I am tired of all of this, and I hope that this primary ends soon.
Posted by Annatme 01:23 PM, 04/17/2008
Great Job. I am so afraid that if Obama really does get elected, many people who vote for him are going to regret it. So many people who voted for Bush are so ashamed they won't admit it. People don't do this again. Really look at him You say "Slick Willey" Wait. You will be just as ashamed if you vote for Obama. He is nothing but a pretty boy. If he got upset over last nights questions. Just wait. He will never make it.
Posted by JanetT 01:56 PM, 04/17/2008
If I ever for one second harbored the thought of voting for Hillary it's now gone. She was practically salivating during that lynching last night. She was let off easy. No mention of Penn, no metion of the $800,000 her family received from the Columbians, and Obama made public his 2007 tax returns. Where are her's and still no mention of the Clinton Library donor list that she promised to make public. I'm surprised she didn't bring a bag of marshmallows to that roast. What a disgusting woman.
Posted by politicod 02:05 PM, 04/17/2008
Worst debate so far. I agree with the first comment. Since when does a network have the temerity to ask the candidate to "pledge" that they will take the troops out of Iraq within a certain time frame. Outrageous. Both candidates should be annoyed, and neither was helped.
Posted by smcclair 02:23 PM, 04/17/2008
I finally watched the debate on the internet and what a mess. It was in fact a direct stragetic set up. Hillary stood there like a stuffed hen and affirmed the insults hailed @ Obama and chimmed in when it was convient. I must say, that I respect Senator Obama even more now as he tried to redirect the mess to REAL issues. He delivered thoughtful, and truthful responses to the retoric. He really SLAMMED her when she tried to expand on the Ayers comment when he told her that her husband PARDONED two of the people associated with Ayers. I am making a donation and will be in PA today for a canvassing.
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