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Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Could Raul Ibanez be in left field for the Phillies next season?

Maybe.

There are indications inside the organization that the Phillies are interested in Ibanez, a free agent leftfielder from the Seattle Mariners. Ibanez hit .293 with 23 home runs and 110 RBIs last season, and has had at least 21 homers and 105 RBIs in each of the previous three seasons. But what is interesting about Ibanez is that he hits lefthanded. That would seem to work against manager Charlie Manuel’s vision of a balanced lineup with Chase Utley and Ryan Howard also lefthanded hitters.

But that doesn't scare off the Phillies because Ibanez hit .305 last season against lefthanders compared to .288 against righthanders. There it a lot of talk about how the Phillies must have another righthanded bat in their lineup, but the Phillies would rather have Ibanez, who hits lefthanded, than a less productive hitter who is righthanded just because he is righthanded.

There is another obvious connection with Ibanez, too. Pat Gillick, who is an advisor to general manager Ruben Amaro Jr., is a former GM with the Mariners, and new assistant general manager Benny Looper just came from Seattle. So both Gillick and Looper know Ibanez well.

The Phillies have spoken with Pat Burrell’s agents about a potential return, but they remain willing to explore other options before they get serious with him. The sense I get when talking about Ibanez is that the Phillies simply are exploring those options. I'm not sure how serious they are about him, but he is interesting for the reasons listed above.

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The Phillies remain hopeful they will re-sign lefthander Jamie Moyer. The fact the sides haven’t yet come to an agreement shouldn’t cause concern. Moyers’ agent has been unavailable since last week, and Moyer is taking care of family matters this week.

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The Phillies have some interest in free agent righthander Juan Cruz (4-0, 2.61 ERA in 57 appearances), although he is a Type A free agent. If the Phillies signed him before Dec. 1 or if the Arizona Diamondbacks offered him salary arbitration, the Phillies would have to forfeit their first-round draft pick.

Ibanez also is a Type A free agent, so the Phillies might be in a situation where they wait to see which players are offered arbitration and which ones aren’t and proceed from there.

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The Phillies completed their coaching interviews: Rich Donnelly, Tim Bogar and Pete Mackanin. They could make a hire before the end of the week.

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Posted by CaptainCrunch 06:01 AM, 11/20/2008
Burrell's batting average in clutch situations is horrible.
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Posted by jonnyhell 07:32 AM, 11/20/2008
Ibanez is the left-handed version of Burrell.
Posted by EL Zorro 08:00 AM, 11/20/2008
Bad idea. Another lefthanded outfielder, and losing a first round pick for a 37 year old? They got to be crazy.
Posted by Mark1npt 08:05 AM, 11/20/2008
uh....why?
Posted by Mark1npt 08:06 AM, 11/20/2008
Why is this guy on the radar? Why are they trying to talk themselves into this?
Posted by mick314 08:08 AM, 11/20/2008
Keep hocuspocus in lala land. (repeat 26 times)
Posted by NJLouis66 08:40 AM, 11/20/2008
What happened to the scuttlebutt about Magglio Ordonez?
Posted by JayW 09:23 AM, 11/20/2008
Ibanez is a great choice. Because he hits lefties he can also spell Howard at first base on occasion. Another point is that he could take over from Howard at first base if the Phillies decided to trade Howard after the 2009 season. But I doubt they'd want to give Ibanez a three-year deal.
Posted by jeff gross 09:27 AM, 11/20/2008
Obviously the Phils want a guy for a year or two hoping that GOlson is ready by then. Personally, I think this is not the way to go. Get a guy who can hlep you for teh next 2-4 years. If Golson is ready, you can always trade the FA, or use him as 4th outfielder. I don't think GOlson is ever going to be a starting ipmact-player. At best he'll be the 4th OF who is put in due to speed.
Posted by NJLouis66 09:57 AM, 11/20/2008
Well the guy's numbers are pretty consistent over the past several seasons in Seattle. So you probably know what you're going to get. And of course the most important number here is the salary. Clearly the Phils do not want to invest a ton of $$$ and years in Burrell. Ibanez could probably be had significantly cheaper. It certainly would free up $$$ to invest in Hamels and Howard. And that has to be the priority. The fact that this fellow hits lefties is good. I wonder if Charlie would shuffle the batting order a bit to avoid three lefties in a row.
Posted by James TL 10:45 AM, 11/20/2008
This doesn't seem to make sense except for the lower salary. I haven't seen his stats so I'm wondering if his power diminishes against LH pitching. His age and the fact that he is LH and apparently not a better OF makes me think the Phils should either sign Burrell of get another RH OF. I seriously doubt Golson will ever be a regular major league OF. He strikes out far too much without too much power.
Posted by Bignas 10:48 AM, 11/20/2008
I like Burrell, but not for $11M per. He's worth @ $7M. As is Ibanez. The Phils need to invest in Hamels and Howard for sure and that should be considered when talking money about the outfielder. I don't see a lot of difference between Burrell and Ibanez, except that we know how Burrell performs in the NL and Citizens Bank.
Posted by RollinsWasRight 11:15 AM, 11/20/2008
Bignas - Burrell doesn't perform in Citizens Bank. His numbers are much better on the road. As far as Ibanez, I understand the thinking, but the notion scares me. Zo gave us his very consistent traditional numbers, but he is 36, some of his peripheral stats are in decline, and his defensive performance (from what I understand) was noticeably diminshed from last year to this. Not that a LF has to be a Gold Glover, as we know with Pat, but eroding defense is often a sign of eroding physical skills. I would consider it risky at best to offer this guy more than two years, and even if I got him for two, I would greatly worry about the second year.
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Andy Martino is in his first season on the Phillies beat. A former New York City public school teacher and graduate of the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, he previously wrote for the New York Daily News, where he covered baseball and worked with the award-winning investigative sports "I-team."
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