Posted: Monday, April 28, 2008, 9:55 AM | 43 comments |
 
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Brett Myers has lost his fastball. He needs it back. And fast.Brett Myers is lost.

He can't seem to break 89 mph with his fastball, which is a shock for somebody who always has been able to throw much harder. So he has abandoned his fastball early in games and has tried to fool hitters with his cutter and other offspeed pitches. It hasn't worked. He is 2-2 with a 5.11 ERA after six starts this season.

Charlie Manuel and Rich Dubee are concerned.

Dubee sounds even more frustrated.

"I think it's as simple as him throwing more fastballs and him getting out there and playing some more long toss," Dubee said. "He's not a real big believer in long toss, and I am. I think that's one way you develop arm strength. It gives you some elasticity in your arm, and I think it's something he has to buy into a little more. He doesn't do much at all. Game day, he throws five balls at a long distance and that's it."

Myers said he doesn't throw his fastball because the separation in speeds between the fastball (88 mph) and his cutter (84 mph) isn't enough. So he has thrown the cutter, hoping the extra movement on the ball might fool hitters.

"He wasn't going to throw the cutter today," Dubee said. "See how long that lasted? We were going to throw more curveballs. He threw them to the first couple hitters, and then he put it in his back pocket for whatever reason. We talked about getting away from the cutter and throwing more fastballs and throwing more curveballs because of the separation between the speeds. But he got away from that game plan for whatever reason."

Myers said he is open to doing anything that might pump up the mph on his fastball, and that means more long tossing in between starts.

We'll see what happens.

But it's obvious this is a very real concern. The Phillies expected Myers and Cole Hamels to be their 1-2 punch atop their rotation. If that doesn't happen, it's going to be very tough to hang in the National League East all season.

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In the Phillies Notebook, the Phillies gave Paul Maholm credit, but they weren't amazed by his two-hitter yesterday in a 5-1 loss to the Pirates.

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The Phillies today released triple-A Lehigh Valley outfielder Valentino Pascucci.

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:12 AM, 04/28/2008
    Players who stop taking steroids and HGH often retain their benefits for a year or more. All around baseball last year and this year we are seeing serious drops in velocity in pitchers, ala Zito in SF who can't break 84mph on the radar gun. Doesn't anybody have a clue that this is the reason? Doesn't anybody put 2 and 2 together when it comes to domestic abuse and steroids? Doesn't anybody want to admit it?
    Mark1npt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:48 AM, 04/28/2008
    Good point, though not sure it's entirely true. Still. Gagne is the posterboy (Clemens was great before) of a guy who threw low 90s as a starter, totally average, then suddenly was up to 98 and saving 80 some in a row, winning the Cy Young. And now he's ordinary - or worse - again. The I think about Mark's point, though...
    John in LA
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:07 PM, 04/28/2008
    Mark1npt-You really took the words out of mouth. It's really ashame that the Phillies tolerate such obvious abuse of drugs that lead to anger mgmt issues. Myers is not only effecting his domestic life but his drug use has no come home to roost and is effecting this team. Myers should be traded while he has some value. He is only getting pd $8,000,000US and possibly some team could be duped into thinking he could be a great closer.(Like P.G. was duped with Garcia). Once again the Phillies have many more problems than Howard, I would say having one sure fire starter is the way more significant. Where are YOU the bloggers today?
    Truth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:07 PM, 04/28/2008
    Now Myers has to learn to pitch. Sorry bud... can't blow em away with your 93 mph heater. Now you have to hit spots and change speeds. he ever hear of future hall of famer named maddux... oh... and he might pay attention next time moyer pitches. get over yourself myers and start pitching... maybe someone should send mr. miaggi from the karate kid over to him... wax on, wax off for crissakes!
    terryharmon
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:20 PM, 04/28/2008
    Something fishy is going on......
    Mark1npt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:22 PM, 04/28/2008
    Nice to see Truth, as usual, waiting for all the facts to come in. Don't you have the prom to get ready for, dude? And are these rants already written down somewhere and you just cut-and-paste them?
    John in LA
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:27 PM, 04/28/2008
    Scouts all over baseball snickered to themselves when steroid testing went into effect a few years ago and all of a sudden pitcher's velocity dropped by 5 mph on average. Take that out a couple of years and now we see drops of 10 moh showing up regularly. How would you feel if you were the SF Giants and you were on the line for Zito and another $100 million? Going to be interesting to see if Santana is tainted in any way and worth his money. There were whispers last year that he may be dropping off, which is scout speak for yeah, we have our suspicions.
    Mark1npt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:32 PM, 04/28/2008
    BTW, there are pitchers and there are throwers. Myers is a thrower, that's why closing suits him so well, he can just sit back and fire away for 1 inning. He can't "pitch" , he doesn't have the mental makeup for it. He as much stated this a few starts into the season when interviewed about his struggles and stating he was done with setting hitters up, he was just going to be aggressive and start throwing. You can't make a horse drink, you know?
    Mark1npt
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:42 PM, 04/28/2008
    Let's see: Myers doesn't listen to Dubee, Howard won't listen to Milt Thompson. There's your leadership void. Also doesn't help that both guys are fat.
    John in LA
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:51 PM, 04/28/2008
    Truth - the thought that this is possibly (not proven) related to performance enhancing drugs is entirely plausible. However, to pretend like the Phillies organization would be at fault for that, when every single team in MLB has had players that took performace enhancing drugs, is ridiculous.
    Gary Varsho
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:52 PM, 04/28/2008
    Cupcake in LA- John Kruk was fat-Clemens is fat, Ruth was fat etc. It has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Your a joke. I congratulate Zo' for picking up on my thoughts from yesterdays post. I have commented on Myers frailness for sometime-I must admit I didn't connect it to 'roids. Bottom line he's a loser, just like you cupcake.
    Truth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:03 PM, 04/28/2008
    Gary, not all teams in baseball have players beating their wives up and down the street. It's a tell, tell sign of 'roids and overall out of control behavior that generally is associated with drug abuse(in this case steroid abuse.) We all remember that year 2/3 yrs ago when Myers went from 195-230 in one off season. I can't believe I didn't connect the dots.
    Truth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:05 PM, 04/28/2008
    Talking about longevity, friend. You're pointing out HOF exceptions. Like Tony Gwynn and Kirby Puckett. Exceptions, get it, not the norm. I'm sure Zo is thrilled with your inspiration...
    John in LA
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:16 PM, 04/28/2008
    The problem is that any allegation about steroid abuse is, at this point, 100% speculation by guys on a blog, since it has never been reported in any manner about Myers by any source. And you would think that if there was a chance that his incident stemmed from "roid rage", that it may have been reported as such (or at least speculated about), instead I think most thought it was more likely related to alcohol. And its possible he just has a really bad temper and has issues dealing with his emotions, totally unrelated to substance abuse at all.
    Gary Varsho


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