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Friday, March 28, 2008

The Wall Street Journal considers Charlie Manuel the fourth-best manager in baseball.Charlie Manuel still has his detractors.

But since the Phillies won the National League East last year, some fans have come around: So he talks funny. So what? The players play hard for him. They've had the best offense in the National League the last two years. And how would I have done having to decide amongst Antonio Alfonseca, Jose Mesa and Geoff Geary every night?

So it's interesting (and more than a little surprising) to read that The Wall Street Journal considers Manuel the fourth-best manager in baseball.

Better than Bobby Cox.

Better than Tony La Russa.

Better than Lou Piniella.

Better than Jim Leyland.

Come again? How come I get the feeling this article might make some heads explode? The newspaper explained its formula: "Assessing managers is difficult, since their win-loss records are closely tied to the team's talent level. Because of that, we used three metrics designed to reveal a manager's acumen — performance in close games, "Pythagorean" win expectations and whether they got the most out of their players — then averaged each manager's ranking in those categories for a final score."

It's at least interesting to talk about. I'm sure the people in St. Louis are up in arms that La Russa, who practically invented the game, is tied for ninth. I'm sure Tigers fans are furious that Leyland is 19th out of the 20 managers ranked. But that's what makes it a good debate. I personally think the manager in baseball is overrated. If you have good players, you win. If you don't, you lose. If the Phillies win 85 games and miss the playoffs this year, it won't be because Manuel made some questionable moves late in the game. It'll be because the pitching failed him. Or there were a rash of injuries. Or something else happened on the field.

But that's just me.

Posted by Todd Zolecki @ 12:02 PM  Permalink | 3 comments
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Posted 02:35 PM, 03/28/2008
jimmymack
I think Charley does a great job in managing the personalities on the team, he's OK on game strategy. Based on who he has had on his pitching staff's, he's done OK maybe not 4th best, but in top 10. LaRussa & Pinella have good PR, I don't think either is John McGraw. And really, it's the WSJ, not the first place anyone goes for sports after reading Zo and Jim Salisbury.
Posted 11:20 PM, 03/28/2008
Norma
Damn! I forgot about Geoff Geary and Jose Mesa already!
Posted 03:00 AM, 11/06/2009
djmarco
La Russa is so overrated; always manages teams that have tons of talent but rarely wins it all.
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Andy Martino is in his first season on the Phillies beat. A former New York City public school teacher and graduate of the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, he previously wrote for the New York Daily News, where he covered baseball and worked with the award-winning investigative sports "I-team."
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