Posted: Monday, March 8, 2010, 2:49 PM | 25 comments |
 
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CLEARWATER, Fla.--Now that his sore right shoulder is well enough (though still a bit stiff), Shane Victorino begins his 2010 season tomorrow night against the Atlanta Braves.  He will bat second, a rare treat for Victorino after the Phillies signed third baseman Placido Polanco, who will usually hit there this season.  The team believes that Polanco's high contact rate makes him an ideal no. 2 hitter, though Victorino will see occasional chances at the top of the order.
 
After signing a three-year, $22 million contract in January, Victorino said all the right things about moving down to the bottom third.  This morning--while still saying that he understood and endorsed the team's rationale for altering the batting order-- he admitted that he saw pros and cons for himself.
 
 "It is what it is," Victorino said when asked if he was okay with the change. "It's going to be a year of adjustments for me...I've (batted second) the last two years; why would I want to change?  But you've got to look at the big picture. It'll definitely be a different dynamic in the lineup."
 
Victorino expects to see fewer fastballs in the new position, the consequence of having less frightening hitters directly behind him.  
 
"When I'm hitting second, I've got Chase, Ryan and the rest of the guys behind me, so of course (pitchers) are going to go after me," he said.  "Now I'm hitting seventh, I've got Carlos (Ruiz) and the pitcher behind me.  So am I going to be pitched differently? Am I going to get a lot of breaking balls? So that's all going to come into play. I'm going to have to adjust as we go."
 
He envisions scenarios in which opposing pitchers would not risk throwing him strikes.  "Late in the game, if I'm the pitcher, and there's a guy at second, one out, me up, open base at first?  Who are you going to go after? Most likely you're going to go after Carlos, and then the pitcher...those are the things that come into play, and that's the adjustment that I'm going to have to make.  But I'm ready.  Whatever."
 
Though Victorino's .358 on-base percentage last year was respectable, he said that taking pitches was not his favorite activity.  He prefers to swing at fastballs, and enjoyed many opportunities to do so while hitting second.
 
"That's something I've got to work on," he said of taking pitches.  "I like to hit.  My on-base percentage wasn't bad, but again, I like to hit. I like to put the ball into play. I don't like to strike out much."
 
Victorino does see several advantages to the change.  A no. 2 hitter must worry about moving runners from one base to another by hitting the ball to a particular location in the field.  He rarely hits while multiple runners on base, and because of the power hitters behind him, he often doesn't attempt to steal in order to avoid making a pointless out.
 
"The other aspect is I can swing freely," Victorino said.  "I don't have to worry about moving the runner over.  That's the positive side; I can go up there and just swing...also you'll be in a lot more RBI situations.  There are pluses and negatives. In this game, home runs and RBIs drive your value.  There are also going to be situations when I can run more, a little more freely."
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:24 PM, 03/08/2010
    Shane is the man
    DJ-Kid #10
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:24 PM, 03/08/2010
    Shane is the man
    DJ-Kid #10
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:33 PM, 03/08/2010
    No one likes to strike out Shane....Plus now you have heavy hitters IN FRONT of you, so the benefit will be in your favor...if they all get on...they are not just going to walk you....We are in GREAT shape with Sugar Shane batting 7th.
    jaydes
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:45 PM, 03/08/2010
    The basic argument here is still the same. Why is Rollins a lock at lead off?
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:19 PM, 03/08/2010
    He's Chollies guy, doesn't matter if it's right or not, tis the way it is! Just sayin'...
    DJ
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:21 PM, 03/08/2010
    burholme -- i'm still trying to figure that one out myself. i think having vic leadoff with pp behind him is the better lineup. but i'm still cool with the lineup as they have it. i want to see jimmy bat over 300 this year. if not, i'm all for shane getting to leadoff
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:24 PM, 03/08/2010
    it is insane to have victorino hitting seventh when you have a horrible leadoff hitter in rollins on the team. how long will they kiss rollins rear to prevent a temper tantrum.. rollins career is on a sharp downward trajectory since 2007 but no one in the front office seems to notice. heck, they picked even up his 2011 option when they should have been looking to move him off the team for prospects instead of cliff lee. unbelievable. rollins should be buried at seventh and victorino's speed and obp should be used in the leadoff spot.
    zwarte piet
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:26 PM, 03/08/2010
    i'm wondering the same damn thing burholme.....what about shane, placido, utley, howard, werth, ibanez/rollins, rollins/ibanez, ruiz...?
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:49 PM, 03/08/2010
    I agree that Rollins is not a great leadoff hitter but I don't think Shane is either? In this article he admits that he doesn't like to take pitches. Isn't that the same problem we have with Rollins? We don't have a prototypical leadoff hitter on our entire roster.
    diggity
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:58 PM, 03/08/2010
    Shane is the fastest guy on the team, and hits for the highest average. Gee, seems like a no brainer to me. He should hit leadoff.
    TheJoker
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:08 PM, 03/08/2010
    And zwarte, who would you plan on playing SS then? We have no SS in our minors that is capable of filling in for a year. And would you people lay off about the Cliff Lee trade already? Geez
    Llamaboy1375
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:55 PM, 03/08/2010
    Another reason to drop Rollins down is to remove one at bat per game and give him some rest. They keep yalking about resting the regulars so Jimmy could at least benefit that way too. It's spring training, think outside the box and bat jimmy 9th, he skips an at bat then he is the leadoff guy sort of
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:03 PM, 03/08/2010
    "it is insane to have victorino hitting seventh when you have a horrible leadoff hitter in rollins on the team." That's an ignorant statement. Is Rollins a prototypical leadoff hitter? No. But then, again, there are probably 5 or less prototypical leadoff hitters these days. Victorino certainly isn't one. He's a free swinger who doesn't like to take pitches as he readily admits. Rollins may not have a high OBP but he sure makes the most of his situations on base and the guy flat-out produces runs. He's averaged 104 runs per season and 68 RBIs for the last 9 years. Name any other lead-off hitter in baseball who has put up those kind of numbers leading off for the last 9 seasons. He had a down year last year with a horrible AVG in the first half of the season and STILL had 100 runs scored and 77 RBIs. Frankly, Victorino makes a great 7th hitter in my book. He's a switch-hitter so whether Ibanez or Werth is hitting 6th, the other team can't bring in a situational lefty or righty to pitch either of them and then Victorino. Victorino is the fastest guy on the team but hasn't been able to run much because he had Utley and Howard behind him. He can run freely out of the 7th spot and could still 50 bases batting there. He won't have to deal with trying to move Rollins over and should come up with plenty of guys on base with Howard, Werth and Ibanez hitting in front of him. He could end up driving in 100 runs this year. Plus, and most importantly, he doesn't have to hit 7th all freakin year. If the line-up works better another way, Manuel will switch it. He'll move up when others have off days. Anyone stupid enough to assume Manuel's intelligence because he talks like a country boy should go root for the Nationals. You probably wish we still had Bowa who couldn't even get us into the playoffs.
    JimG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:34 PM, 03/08/2010
    well put Jim
    davemarsh


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