The Trade Deadline Approaches
Pat Gillick said the Phillies are "cautiously optimistic" they can make a trade before Thursday's non-waiver trade deadline.
The Trade Deadline Approaches
Todd Zolecki
Pat Gillick thinks the Phillies have a chance to make another trade before Thursday's 4 p.m. non-waiver trade deadline.
He used the words "cautiously optimistic."
Can you really be cautiously optimistic? Isn't that an oxymoron? I mean, if you're cautious about your optimism, how optimistic are you? Yes, we're deep thinkers here, so chew on that one for a while. But Phillies fans shouldn't get their hopes up for Manny Ramirez, Matt Holliday or Brian Fuentes. Gillick indicated yesterday that none of those players will be wearing red pinstriples anytime soon.
But he still hoped they could add another lefthanded pitcher to their bullpen. If they don't find a lefthander from outside the organization, the Phillies could convert lefthander J.A. Happ into a reliever. In fact, he could be announced today as Adam Eaton's replacement in the bullpen. Happ was pulled from Sunday's start after just 2 2/3 innings. Mike Arbuckle explained why, "We pulled him as a precaution. We really don't know what's going to happen at the trade deadline, and we didn't know if we were going to need him in the big leagues or weren't or whatever. We just wanted to keep all our options open, and we thought the best way to do that was limit his outing just so that he might be ready in case we needed him or there was a trade. A lot of different things could happen over the next couple days."
In other words, they might need him tonight in DC against the Nationals and they might need him as a trade chip and didn't want to risk injury.
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Eaton is scheduled to start Thursday for single-A Lakewood. He isn't expected back to the big leagues until Sept. 1, when rosters expand. There's no question at this point that he has been one of the worst free agent signings in franchise history. Why not just cut him? Well, for the simple reason that he's under contract and making $8.5 million next season. I also think the Phillies will keep him around -- I can't imagine anybody trading for him unless the Phillies eat almost his entire contract -- because they might want to have an extra arm in spring training. Who's knows what the future holds for Jamie Moyer and Brett Myers? Moyer could retire. Myers might not be successful as a starter and could become a full-time reliever next season. They might want to create some competition in the rotation next spring, even though Eaton hardly has provided much of that.
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Myers goes tonight. The Phillies desperately need him to pitch well. If not, the Phillies have said they can't sit around and do nothing.
"He's going to have to perform well," Ruben Amaro Jr. said. "We're trying to win our division, so we're going to try to put the best starters out there we can to win. We have to keep our minds open with what we're going to do. We're not locking ourselves in with anything. We believe he'll stay in the rotation, but we have to keep our options open, and we will."
Could we see Myers in the bullpen at some point? It's possible. But that wouldn't be good. The Phillies think an effective Myers is the second-best pitcher in the rotation and gives them a better chance in the postseason. If Myers moves to the bullpen and Happ takes his place, who's the No. 2 starter come the postseason?
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Chase Utley has "mild soreness" in his hip. It's not serious, and doesn't require surgery.
For goodness sakes Todd......if I hear one more time that we need rotation competition next spring, I'm gonna puke....we've all seen what Eaton does, repeatedly whenever there is any competition....he folds......crumbles.....collapses....spring or regular season does not matter.....why give him any more chances? We've seen enough to know Eaton ain't good....he's not even tolerable. Eat the salary and let him go......far, far away..... Mark1npt
I was more than a little distressed to listen to Amaro and Monty last night on TV and their singular focus on winning the division. Guys, that's nice but I'm looking for a NL pennant, not just the division. Low expectations usually yield low results. If Myers gets bombed tonight, Gillick will have to go for broke on a trade. jimmymack
Too bad its not like football where if they underperform you can just send them packing. dc4183
I doubt Chase has just mild soreness btw, he's looked uncomfortable for a long time now.....and it's certainly bad enough that uit's put a big dent in his hitting avg and power numbers....he can't turn on a ball well at all now.....same with Rollins and his ankle.... Mark1npt
I doubt Chase has just mild soreness btw, he's looked uncomfortable for a long time now.....and it's certainly bad enough that uit's put a big dent in his hitting avg and power numbers....he can't turn on a ball well at all now.....same with Rollins and his ankle.... Mark1npt
There's no question that the Rockies would love to trade Fuentes for Happ, whatever they may say. They need starting pitching right now desperately and they have several other options for a closer. This would be a terrible trade for the Phillies. JayW
Looks like our rotation for the stretch may be: Cole, Moyer, Kendrick, Happ, and either the Eaton look-a-like we traded for Carrasco. Hold your breath, its going to be a rocky ride... jeff gross
oops, that was supposed to be or Carrasco. Thankfuly they haven't traded him jeff gross
Jimmymack, I can't decide whether it's low expectations from the front office (so that any playoff is a bonus to us fans) or whether this is really the corporate standard. I agree, you get what you aim for. Excellence at the corporate headquarters and all the way down the line should be the mindset, the "expectation" every year. World Series or bust should be the motto...... Mark1npt
Jimmymack, I don't know which is more disappointing to me. The fact that we have gotten to this point and yet we are still waiting to see what Myers gives us tonight before we feel any urgency to pull off a deal, or the fact that the Phils actually seem to believe that Myers can turn himself around. bski
I have no idea if anyone here is religious, but I suggest we all start praying real hard Myers gets his act together tonight. I hate to see the rotaton otherwise. It looks like an ace, a grandfather, and 3 babies jeff gross
Not a very good poker hand, is it Jeff Gross? Mark1npt
well, I'd fold if I was holding it, that's for sure lol jeff gross
anyone think Lefty might be up to pitching a few games? He can't be worse then teh guys we have now jeff gross
Here's the "funny part"....the "grandfather" could win his 10th game on Thursday and has the 2nd best ERA of the starting rotation. KarenA


