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Friday, October 24, 2008
Ryan Howard discards his bat after striking out in the seventh inning with two runners on base. The Phillies went 1 for 15 with RISP last night. They stranded 11.

Charlie Manuel thinks the Phillies are pressing at the plate.

Publicly, most players say they're not.

But Jimmy Rollins at least acknowledged he "felt a little tense" in one of his at-bats last night in a 4-2 loss to the Rays in Game 2 of the World Series. How else to explain a team that Rays manager Joe Maddon gushes about because he is so impressed with their quality at-bats? They might have quality at-bats without men in scoring position, but the Phillies are an anemic 1 for 28 with runners in scoring position in the first two games of this series. They are hitting .158 (18 for 114) with runners in scoring position in the postseason, too.

This is not just a two-game trend. This is a postseason trend, and the fear here must be that it finally catches up to them.

Phil Sheridan sees a tight team, too.

Splitting the first two games on the road might seem like a good thing, but it hasn't always worked out that way.

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Bob Ford talks about how close Brett Myers came to redemption.

Myers didn't pitch that bad. In fact, three earned runs in seven innings is good enough to win. But the Rays made their breaks. The Rays played small ball to score two runs in the firstAn umpire's wave helped lead to a run in the secondThey scored on a safety squeeze in the fourth.

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Jim Salisbury goes Inside the Game.

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Manuel thought last night might have been one of their sloppiest games of the year. He was right.

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John Gonzalez is not having much success understanding the Phillies' offensive troubles. Gonzalez, Sheridan and Ford talk about Jamie Moyer pitching tomorrow night (maybe in the rain) in Game 3.

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Frank Fitzpatrick offers his take on the happenings in St. Petersburg.

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Ryan Howard continues to search for the big hit. ... In the Phillies Notebook: Manuel isn't concerned about the Rays pitching around Chase Utley to face Howard. ... Some people are watching this World Series. ... MLB and the Phillies are preparing for a rainy day tomorrow.

Posted by Todd Zolecki @ 6:31 AM  Permalink | 65 comments
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Posted 11:09 PM, 10/24/2008
EricChase
Todd, while the Rays are aggressive and free swinging, they were also third in MLB in walks. They are not the Marlins when it comes to being young and impetuous hitters.
Posted 04:53 PM, 10/24/2008
EL Zorro
I meant first baseman. I work in a basement, so you have to forgive me.
Posted 04:43 PM, 10/24/2008
EL Zorro
That Burrell play was not interference because he did not impede the first basement from catching the ball. The throw was tough, but Peña had it for a moment and dropped it. The Hamels throw was borderline. But you have two umps looking right at him and they did not called it. So I guess it wasn't.
Posted 04:41 PM, 10/24/2008
DMC5
The Bank will be rockin' and the Rays will suck in this environment. Big advantage for the Phils. The runs will come this weekend!
Posted 04:26 PM, 10/24/2008
Billy The Kid
...and by 23rd youngest, I mean the 7th OLDEST team in baseball. I figured you may not quite understand that.
Posted 04:24 PM, 10/24/2008
Billy The Kid
One more thing Truth...the Brewers were so young, they were the 23rd youngest team in baseball!!! 23rd!!! ...out of 30!!! I'll even link you to the site to prove it. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/rosters ...Truth, keep posting and I'll keep taking you behind the woodshed. I got all weekend!
Posted 04:18 PM, 10/24/2008
Billy The Kid
Truth, again, you spew garbage and claim they're facts. Wouldn't you say the Phillies are a stronger rep in the WS than Colorado was last year? I mean, the Rockies brought back, pretty much, the same team this season and were never a threat. In fact, not only are the Phillies better than the '07 Rockies, I think this year's editions of the Dodgers and Cubs were also. The gap between the NL and the AL is probably as narrow as it has been in a few years. Think of all the major acquisitions over the past year...Santana, the games best pitcher, going from AL to NL, Danny haren going from AL to NL, Rich Harden and Manny going from AL to NL. I know you want to hate, but you're dead wrong. Howard the best slugger this league has seen in yrs? I mean, I love Ryan Howard, but isn't that statement a bit premature? ...and Aaron Rowand's leadership did wonders in SF this year. Really, though, I guess other than the fact that you were completely wrong about all of those things, you hit 'em all dead on the head! Great job buddy!
Posted 03:59 PM, 10/24/2008
KGKoons
Hasn't this really been a season long problem :driving in the runners that stand there on base? Pat Burrell as well as Howard and Jimmy have not hit well at all in the Post-Season. Odd that other guys have done their best to keep up the streak. Perhaps home cooking will wake these guys up. If not, next season there could be a few changes even in the starting line-up.
Posted 03:53 PM, 10/24/2008
jimmymack
That post is from the guy who Zo, in the only time in 2 years I've been on this blog, pretty much told him to take a walk if he didn't like what Todd wrote or the response. John in LA had the best descripion of him, the blog pinata. He's entitled to his opinions, delusions and rants like everyone else; actually I think he is a hoot, kinda like a crazy uncle. Move along, nothing to see here...LOL.
Posted 03:37 PM, 10/24/2008
Gary Varsho
I always appreciate the idiot who claims the only reason the Phillies are in the WS is because the rest of the league is weak. You play who is in front of you. Period. I remember when the Mets signed Santana, Truth predicted that the Phillies would win 83 games, finish second in the division and fight for the wild card.
Posted 03:32 PM, 10/24/2008
bobby
Dr. Zolecki to the blog room, STAT... and bring your medicine bag! Truth is off his meds and hallucinating badly.
Posted 03:27 PM, 10/24/2008
Truth
Billy the little kid- Listen just b/c this team has made it to the series does not mean that they are flawless. Admit it the Brewers were spent and awfully young and the Dodgers were simply a team that got hot at the right time like the Phillies last yr. I love these guys and respect there tenacity but they have made it to the series in a yr when the NL is as weak as I've ever seen it. Yes my "predictions" have been dead on ie: Brett Myers imploding, Howard proving to be the best slugger this game has seen in yrs, Their being a tremendous crises of leadership w/out Rowand(I don't wear rose colored glasses this team struggled for month's) To Cholly being a mgr of the year candidate and Chase Utley being frail and ultimately breaking down after a torrid start. Yes, these are all true. Just b/c they have made it to the series in this the weakest of yrs doesn't mean they are complete or that the previous 15 yrs of upper mgmt futility should be dismissed.
Posted 02:58 PM, 10/24/2008
Billy The Kid
Bobby, I tried to let it go, but that post, like most from that baffoon, almost made my head explode.
Posted 02:57 PM, 10/24/2008
RollinsWasRight
Varsho... that is totally the case, which is why Maddon was crying that Hamels isn't "a read pitcher"... in other words, he doesn't usually do what he did. Someone should tell Joe Maddon that he is entitled to alter his delivery anyway he likes, as long as he abides by the rules, such as throwing home once your front foot passes behind the rubber, coming to a complete stop when you come set in the stretch, etc.
Posted 02:57 PM, 10/24/2008
bobby
Gary: Can't blame them for that. I will admit that I was cringing as that play developed. Ryan botched several of those throws earlier in the year. Seems to have gotten it down now, though.
Posted 02:43 PM, 10/24/2008
Gary Varsho
bobby - I think I heard Mitch Williams talking about the fact that runners plan on going on first movement off a lefty, and that especially in this case, they may very well have gambled thinking that even if Hamels throws over, Howard more often than not can not make a good throw there.
Posted 02:41 PM, 10/24/2008
bobby
Billy the Kid: I thought the exact same thing when I read that claim, but I figured I'd just let it pass (like last night's Chinese food). Too funny!
Posted 02:38 PM, 10/24/2008
bobby
I think it would be a huge stretch to have called a balk on Hamels there. EOD, I believe you said earlier that he "deceived the runner". I don't think that's even possible in this case, since the runner took off on first movement. He was well on his way by the time Hamels' leg was up in the air. And after watching the replay several times, I don't think you can make a clear case that he broke 45 degrees. To me, the bottom line is that the runner took off way too soon, before the pitcher had committed himself. He assumed Hamels would go to the plate. They got burned and that's why they screamed for the balk.
Posted 02:31 PM, 10/24/2008
Billy The Kid
I just read this from Truth..."As an aside its amazing how many times my predicitions have become fact this season." ...this is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever read on here...and not even because he butchered the word "predictions". Truth, are you really bringing that kool-aid to this gin party? You've come on here time and time again bashing this team and "predicited" that this team would go nowhere...for various reasons. You and Markn1p are quick to point out when you are correct, but as a frequent visitor of this blog, the two of you could not have been any more wrong about this team. Yet, one slip up here in this postseason run and the two of you are on here writing about how right you were (Mark had a similar post in the NLCS). I'd tell you to go away, but you are far too entertaining for me to want you to go away. Please, Truth, I need more "predicitions" from you.
Posted 02:19 PM, 10/24/2008
RollinsWasRight
Correction..."couldn't care less about the BASEBALL", not "payroll"... gotta stop planning the next sentence while still typing the current one. :)
Posted 02:18 PM, 10/24/2008
RollinsWasRight
Gary: re: Rosenthal, I think there are several factors. For once, I think he has allowed himself to get too caught up in the stories, 100 Year Cubbies, Mannywood, and now the Rays. Also, I think he is loathe to rely on the Phillies to beat a quality team repeatedly for reasons like last night. They can be so maddeningly inconsistent, and you never know when it is going to rear it's head. Also, there is the Brett Myers factor, he seems to be so Jekyll and Hyde he makes it difficult to analyze the Phillies pitching. Also, the entire Fox netowrk is clealy all about the stories this post season, and couldn't care less about the payroll. Is Mark Grace being paid by the Rays? To listen to him talk, you would think the Phillies had no business being in the World Series, like they bribed someone to get here.
Posted 02:07 PM, 10/24/2008
EndTheDrought
Rollins I was saying the same thing. I love the angles and the FoxTrax. I wonder if the centerfield camera will be possible at CBP since the brick wall is there. Maybe put it in the garden area there. I also the overhead shot they use when showing check swings.
Posted 02:03 PM, 10/24/2008
EndTheDrought
Fair points from both of you but I will still disagree. For one Gary the ball does not have to hit the runner to be interference. As you know there is box created by the xtra line about 45 ft from first base to the bag. Thats created for the runner and technically that's where the runner should be running. Anything outside the line he can be called out. Generaly an ump will allow the runner to run within dirt basepath. And I think you need to check the replay on the balk. But hey i'm not gonna argue. They were both very close judgement calls that could have gone either way. I guess its a good sign that they didnt go against us, as for years those calls usually do go against us. Last night they did though. lets hope the umps get on their games for 3through 7 (if necc). I would hate the series to be decided on a botched call. BTW I dont read Rosenthal.
Posted 01:57 PM, 10/24/2008
Gary Varsho
RWR - I agree - Ken is usually pretty good, but for some reason he really seems to have an anti-Philly bias this post-season. Maybe he's trying not to seem too in favor of Philly since he has a history here. Or maybe he's just buying into what appears to be a Fox bias.
Posted 01:55 PM, 10/24/2008
RollinsWasRight
By the way, since we have been roundly slamming Buck and McCarver on here since the NLCS started, I think it only fair to point out the there are certain aspects of Fox's coverage that I am really appreciating. Specifically, the camera angles. I have wanted a centerfield camera that truly looked as much over the pitcher's shoulder as possible for years, and I am so glad to finally see it. The center field camera TBS had in the ALCS was so far in left-center that you couldn't possibly tell what was a strike. It was ridiculous. I am also enjoying that great overheard shot just above home plate that keeps religiously showing just how inaccurate and ridiculous those phony strike zones are that they put up on the screen. There were so many pitches last night that the overheard shot showed were clearly on the corner, yet the FoxTrax strike zone thingy claimed were a foot off the plate. I hate those fantasy strike zones.
Posted 01:50 PM, 10/24/2008
RollinsWasRight
I love Ken Rosenthal. I think he is one of the better national baseball writers. BUT he is not having a good postseason. His analysis of the NLCS was clearly slanted by his picking the Dodgers to win it, and his analysis of Game 1 was also slanted in favor of the Rays, whom he picked to win; putting the two together makes him seem anti-Phillies, which I am sure he isn't, but still, I think ol' Kenny is really having a bad postseason this year. His columns have been disappointing of late.
Posted 01:47 PM, 10/24/2008
Gary Varsho
Its not interference. He can run inside the baseline, but if he is hit with the thrown ball, he is out. So as a general rule, players are taught to run on the outside of the line, but its not interference to run inside the line. And Hamels foot did not go toward the plate enough, it went right up and down and did not break the 45 degree plane. Stop thinking everything that Ken Rosenthal writes about is true.
Posted 01:46 PM, 10/24/2008
RollinsWasRight
EndtheDrought, I have to agree wholeheartedly with Gary. While I agree with the perception that what Hamels did was a balk, I have felt that way for years, and it is never called. Game 1 of the World Series is not the time to change your perceptions. Andy Pettitte has been doing the same thing a dozen times a game, every game, for almost 15 years, and it is never called. As for Burrell, he was not interfering. He wasn't even on the grass. Typically, as long as the runner stays on the dirt, he will be viewed as running within the base path. Burrell was pushing the limits, but he was not too far inside the line, IMO.
Posted 01:43 PM, 10/24/2008
RollinsWasRight
I would love to see the crowd get on Matt Garza tomorrow night, like they did CC GrandSlamia. Garza is very emotional, and can lose focus. Even if the crowd doesn't rattle him, he could easily get himself in trouble trying to shut them up, instead of just pitching. Remember, this is a guy who had to put ear plugs in at home to drown a crowd that was SUPPORTING HIM. ... ... ... "GAR-ZA! GAR-ZA! GAR-ZA!"
Posted 01:38 PM, 10/24/2008
EndTheDrought
Gary I disagree on both accounts. Hamels foot was not at a 45 degree angle it moved forwarded slightly and deceived the runner. And Burrel was well inside the baseline box and could have easily been called for interference. Its a judgemnt call and you probably shouldnt make the call in that spot, so the non-call was fine. However if it was called I dont think the Phils could have argued it.
Posted 01:30 PM, 10/24/2008
Norma
To paraphrase one of our frequent posters...."Let's not all jump off the Ben Franklin Bridge!" I, for sure, didn't expect a sweep. We're definitely hitting. Just not getting runners over the plate. Sloppy fielding, also hurt us last night. And of course those stupid calls by the home plate ump! WE have home field advantage, now. Relax guys! And just play the game. Remember the rubber duckies!
Posted 01:04 PM, 10/24/2008
Gary Varsho
EndtheDrought - that was not a balk, and Burrel baserunner interference? Not quite. He didn't interfere - the pitcher could have hit him with the ball, and he would have been out, but it was not interference.
Posted 12:52 PM, 10/24/2008
RAS
Charlie didn't do to well either last night. Matt Stairs never got into the game, despite a situation in the 6th inning that was crying for him to bat for Feliz. Even the Fox knuckleheads got it right. When he is behind, Charlie needs to forget about the defense and put runs on the board. Bruntlett could have played third. There is a difference between playing to win and playing not to lose.
Posted 12:49 PM, 10/24/2008
EndTheDrought
bob- i agree that the called strike 3 changed to ball 4 and the rollins HBP were bad calls. However if you look at game 1 phils got 3 gifts (Victorino picked off, Hamels balk, Burrell runner interference). The umpiring has been bad but its been bad both ways. Botton line Phils have no one to blame but themselves for the loss. Not getting big hits with RISP cost them the game. Not the umps. Plus the defense has been suspect in teh series. I agree the umps need to do a better job though.
Posted 12:36 PM, 10/24/2008
fcskills
Fieldin Culbreth is home plate ump for game 3, and has been rated as one of the more consistent umps by both pitchers and hitters... which should by good for Moyer. Moyer was actually screwed pretty bady by ump Brian Runge earlier in the playoffs, than god he didnt get assigned to this crew. Moyer has to be licking his chops to face this Rays lineup, similar in style to the marlins young aggressive hitters, whom he owned this year. This will not be a repeat of the Brewers/Dodgers games he pitched. Oh, and somebody make sure they give Jimmy good directions to the stadium... otherwise Ruiz is my game 4 leadoff man.
Posted 12:24 PM, 10/24/2008
EndTheDrought
Phils in 6... the lack of hitting with RISP is disturbing but they will turn it around... they always do... Stay positive folks!! Posidelphia!!!
Posted 12:02 PM, 10/24/2008
bobby
The umpiring last night was indeed horrible. I'm not griping and saying it was unfair to the Phils. But it was embarassing to baseball to see a guy who clearly blew two calls. (I also thought his strike zone was moving around, but that's often the case.) I don't know anything about that guy, but he should not be working the World Series.
Posted 12:01 PM, 10/24/2008
Gary Varsho
RWR - I think Maddon is pushing the envelope with Price. I thought it was going to cost him in the 9th last night, and I think if he continues to go with him, the Phils will end up eating him alive.
Posted 12:00 PM, 10/24/2008
Gary Varsho
The good thing is that they are getting hits. It would be much worse if they were only getting a couple hits a game and looked totally lost at the plate. They just need a couple of key hits. Hopefully Chase and Ryan can put some hits together in the same game. It was unfortunate that Howard was leading off innings last night. Maybe flip Vic and Werth again to add a little more consistency at the top.
Posted 11:57 AM, 10/24/2008
RollinsWasRight
Anyone else thinking Joe Maddon is making a tactical error by unnecessarily over-exposing his bullpen early? I always thought one of the great advantages both World Series teams have every year is that the opposition has not seen your relief pitchers much, if at all, over a very long period of time. Yet, in two games, he has used Wheeler twice, Price for 2-plus innings, Balfour for 2-plus innings, Howell and Miller. The Phillies have now had a chance to really get a good look at basically their entire bullpen, while the Phillies have only shown Romero, Madson and Lidge in two games, and each of them was only seen by 3 hitters. The Red Sox were able to eventually hit the Rays bullpen because they were familiar with it... and the Phillies are getting more familiar much more quickly than the Rays are. On a side note: the Rays pitching is decent, but from what we have seen in the series so far, also overrated. They are pretty good, but far from great, and the disparity between the two teams is not nearly as large as we have been told. In fact, it is beginning to look (to me) like the difference between the Phillies pen and the Rays pen is a greater difference (favoring the Phils), than the difference between the Phillies rotation and the Rays rotation. James Shields is so overrated. He was not impressive at all last night. The hitters made him look good. He didn't make great pitches, he struggled to put hitters away, he had runners on base all over the place, and his stuff isn't all that wowing. Kazmir had better stuff in Game 1. Now Garza pitches tomorrow, and he is a different beast, because he DOES have great stuff, but he is also an emotional nutcase to rival Carlos Zambrano.
Posted 11:55 AM, 10/24/2008
RAS
So where is the the team jokester Jimmy Rollins? The guy that laughed his way through the regular season can't even conjure up a grin. He (and some other notables, did you see the sawdust precipitating from Dobbs' bat handle?) are wrapped way too tight. They need to seriously ligthen up. J-Roll will have long lasting regrets if he doesn't wipe that sour puss off his face and get back to his usual easy going self. Maybe some home cookin' will help.
Posted 11:54 AM, 10/24/2008
NJLouis66
Bottom line is: the Phils come home with a split. And they won with Hamels on the mound, which they must do. Forget about last night. It's best-of-five now, with three at home. And I would love for it to work out that Hamels can pitch in two of those - maybe the weather will help somehow. But even if not, the Phils are very much in the driver's seat here. They are getting baserunners - they will convert some of these chances at home. The Rays' starters do NOT look unhittable at all. And fortunately we do not have to deal with the DH issue for three games. I love Coste and Dobbs but they are not Designated Hitters (I agree with those who have expressed surprise that Stairs, who had seen and homered off of Shields before, was not in there). Back to National League ball now - thank goodness. Moyer needs a good first inning in Game 3. He needs to establish the strike zone and not walk a bunch of guys. If his control is good and he gets the calls on the corners, he may frustrate the Rays' hitters. If he doesn't get those calls on the corners, it might be a long night. And by the way, I would not mess with Feliz in the lineup - I don't care about his offense - we need that glove and arm over there.
Posted 11:51 AM, 10/24/2008
Wally 24
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Posted 11:46 AM, 10/24/2008
RollinsWasRight
As much as they have been plagued all year by inefficiency with runners on base, they can't possibly maintain that pathetic rate of 1 for 28 with 1 RBI, can they? That alone is a positive, because none of the Rays pitchers so far have shown any ability to keep the Phillies off the bases. It is, however, mind-boggling to see how they can consistently put together such terrific at-bats with the bases empty, and then have such futile ones with runners on. Apologies to Brett Myers, who not only had his first World Series start wasted, but who was also let down defensively by one of his most reliable defenders, and by really poor umpiring, the kind that is so bad that it should NOT happen in the World Series. I can see the argument that the ump may have thought Baldelli didn't swing...despite Joe Buck and Tim McCarver's over-the-top analysis, I thought it was pretty close, and I was leaning toward no swing. The problem is: THE PITCH WAS A STRIKE, AND THE HOME PLATE UMPIRE CALLED IT A STRIKE! What difference does it make if the first base umpire thought Baldelli held up his swing? And not giving Jimmy Rollins first base in the 9th was also really bad. That ball clearly hit him. The 90 yr. old lady in the last row in left field with her Coke-bottle eyeglasses and hearing aid could tell that ball hit him. Still, it was the lack of offense that cost them this game. Kudos to Carlos Ruiz for possibly his best offensive game of the season. Memo to Jimmy Rollins: We've all learned the hard way you are not a prototypical leadoff hitter. You need to be aggressive to be good. So please stop taking fastballs down the middle early in the count, and start attacking them. And yes, Charlie is right, no matter what the players say... they are pressing, and they know it.
Posted 11:12 AM, 10/24/2008
timm2
what we saw was the effects of the long layoff. batting practice doesnt replace actual game play. having said that, they still won a game. the bats started looking a little better as the game went on. they should be fine by game 3. most of the teams with long layoffs lose the first two games and then are in a hole and have to press. phils took care of that. i think the phils start to hit there stride in game 3.
Posted 11:10 AM, 10/24/2008
bobby
The umps aren't the only ones who are all over the place. Anyway... Most of us predicted the Phils to split in FL, so we're right where we expected to be, in games. The worry, of course, is clutch hitting. Not much to say about that, other than THEY NEED SOME. As for Jamie Moyer, this will be very interesting. Can he place the ball where he wants it? If so, will he get the calls he needs? If yes to both, we could be OK. I expect that the Rays will be under strict orders to lay off pitches and make Moyer throw strikes. If they do that, and he does not get the calls, he will be in real trouble. That means walsk, and ultimately he will have to come up into the strike zone and they can tee off. One strategy: This is playing with fire, but if we believe that the Rays will take pitches early, it may be possible for Jamie to throw strikes early in the count. I mean real strikes that surprise the hitters. If he is able to do that to a few of the Rays hitters, they may just abandon their strategy and start swinging away, at which time he will need to paint the corners as usual. It's not really a unique strategy, getting ahead in the count, but it's not Jamie's typical way to work. I guess what I'm thinking is that it might be time for Jamie to do what the opposing hitters do NOT expect, which is to throw strikes early. The scary part, of course, is that if the Rays hitters are swinging from the start, he could really get lit up. Ah, the beauty of baseball...
Posted 11:01 AM, 10/24/2008
James TL
Hate to point this out but the Rays went into Boston (certainly not a traditionally easy place to play) last weekend and should have swept the Red Sox if not for an incredible come back. I hope the Phils relax being at home and take care of business. I, for one, was very embarrassed at the way they played last night. They are playing like losers right now. Hopefully they will return to the way they have been playing and win at least two out of three. I am not too confident about Moyer. The Rays hitters will have had plenty of time to view film of Moyer. I hope he can fool them and I hope the Phils start scoring more runs. GO PHILS!!!!!
Posted 10:45 AM, 10/24/2008
Truth
JIMMYMACK-I tend to agree with your assesment. Before the series started I explained that Phillies must manufacture runs. Lets face it they have been bailed out all season long by the long ball with solid pitching mixed in. Rarely have the Phils won the 3-2 gm or the 4-3 gm. That is not what they do. In order to beat the best teams you HAVE to manufacture runs. Every night your not get a gem from the pitching staff nor are you going to get the timely 3 run HR. It is imperitive that team situationally hits beter!!! As an aside its amazing how many times my predicitions have become fact this season. Here's another Moyer gets crushed tomorrow. I understand Cholly's loyalty but I would go with Blanton tomorrow and play it from ear from there. These Ump's are all over the place and I don't think the old man story line is what they are looking for these playoffs. They aren't going to give him the pitches and when that happens we all know what happens. Anyhow if we get a split we have a fighting chance.
Posted 10:38 AM, 10/24/2008
KJ256
Also on the positive, the pitching was very good to keep power hitting team like Tampa Bay to four runs is amazing, as well as some good defensive plays, it all likes in the hitting now and getting the runs I am not all that impressed with Tampa Bay and we can beat them if the bats get going
Posted 10:34 AM, 10/24/2008
fLoWdIgGs
Was it just me, or did the umpire last night look like Shrek?
Posted 10:17 AM, 10/24/2008
jimmymack
The bright side is we are getting plenty of guys on base. Unless we are falling into the shell we did against the Rockies last year, we are bound to break out of this. Would have liked to see Stairs replace Dobbs who looked lost in his AB's. Ryan looked better, so all ye of little faith, hang in there. This is going to be a long series.
Posted 10:09 AM, 10/24/2008
EL Zorro
Guys, Tampa is the team that should be pressing. We won one game in their place, which is not easy. Now they have to come here for 3 games. I think coming home will help take the pressure off some guys, especially Werth and Rollins. We have not played well and we're still in the driver's seat. Everybody relax.
Posted 09:45 AM, 10/24/2008
Sully
A split on the road is good baseball. The Phillies now have home-field advantage in a 5-game series with the first 3 games at home. Moyer, I think, will keep the young Rays swinging at junk. He just needs a reasonable strikezone, something he didn't get from Mike Everitt in the NLCS. 3 home games = 3 wins.
Posted 09:44 AM, 10/24/2008
Matt
Tampa is a below .500 team outside of that candyland/circus type stadium they play in. The good news is we are getting plenty of baserunners, you've got to think they are going to start to cash in. That homeplate umpire should never be allowed to call another big game in his life, absolutely horrible. But that's not the reason we lost by any means. Hope Matt Garza brings some pretty thick ear plugs, because he's never played in an atmosphere like this.
Posted 09:37 AM, 10/24/2008
KarenA
I like and share your optimism Jamerock! The Phils have only lost 1 game in each of the postseason rounds and that has been so terrific. The frustrating part is that they're hitting, but not able to score. I hope the hometown fans give an extra boost to the team. It would be extra sweet if they could sweep/clinch it at home.
Posted 09:35 AM, 10/24/2008
Beef69
1 for 28 with RISP. Knowing this why not try a bunt? Something to get a run across the plate. Really think Charlie got out managed last night. But if you told me it was going to be 1-1 leaving that dump. I would have took it any day of the week.
Posted 09:29 AM, 10/24/2008
Jamerock
Everyone relax! We did what we were supposed to do, win one in Tampa. Did anyone really think we were gonna sweep? I feel good about Brett's performance, and have confidence in him for his next start. Jamie Moyer will resurrect the positivity with an outstanding performance in game 3, and Jimmy Rollins is going to be the hero of this series, GUARANTEED! We gave them that game last night. PHILS IN 5.
Posted 09:20 AM, 10/24/2008
MrPhillie
I have to disagree Todd, the lack of clutch hitting as well as the inability to play "smallball" have hurt this team all season....the playoffs are simply an extension of the regular season. Also, I've heard over and over again that strikeouts at the plate are not a big deal, that too much is made of them. Again I disagree with this postseason (especially last night) as the proof. With a runner on 3rd and less than two out, what are the chances that runner scores on a strikeout? Now, what are the chances that runner scores on any kind of contact? No, the runner will not score every time, but the chances are better than even (except for the Phillies) that the runner will score if the batter makes contact. Conversely, unless there is a wild pitch, the runner has zero chance to score on a strikeout. It's not too diffcult to figure out that the Phillies strikeout FAR too often, especially in critical situations, and even when they do make contact it oftn results in weakly hit pop-ups and short fly balls. Myers did his part and pitched well last night, but his defense and offense forgot to show up. What ends up being the dfference in the game? The two runs scored by Tampa Bay on goundouts in the first. This team cannot afford to waste the many opportunities they've had through the first two games. If we think Pena, Longoria, and Crawford will be silent all series, we are fooling ourselves. I haven't lost faith is this team's ability to win the Series, I am just extremly frustrated by the lack of consistent offense.
Posted 09:12 AM, 10/24/2008
phillywebcast
The Phillies did win one game down in St. Pete which is great. That is a fact no one is really talking about. Now, they have 3 games at home to right the ship a little. I'll take the first win down in Florida, we could win it all at home with a sweep of three in a row. The best is yet to come! The Phils just need to get the runs home that are sitting right before them on base. They need to execute, sacrifice fly or bunt to get them in, that is where Manuel needs to start coming up with answers.
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Posted 09:01 AM, 10/24/2008
KarenA
It's amazing how a loss puts alittle less spring in one's step. I know I've said this before his last start, but I truly believe Moyer will have a much better game than he's had his last two outings. NOW for the HARD part---getting those RISP across the plate. Geez, if the Phils can just get over that hump it would make for much smoother sailing. GO PHILS!!
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Posted 08:50 AM, 10/24/2008
Sun Ra
I expect we will see a better game at home. I think the DH has an effect which throws off the offensive rhythm of a national league team. Besides historically poor hitting by NL DHs. I would have considered having Mattt Stairs, with his AL experience, in there as DH. Despite the familiarity of TB pitching with a former AL player, perhaps. This lack of hitting is nothing new. It has been the Phillies' achilles tendon in recent years. Yeah, we get some streaks of clutch hitting, but we also have had trouble playing the 'small ball'. I am hoping we can hit a good streak starting now! C'mon Phillies!!!
Posted 08:49 AM, 10/24/2008
supportphilly
There is no excuse for striking out with less than two outs and a man on third base in 5 out of 7 chances. The players need to stop swinging for the fences in that situation. Choke up on the bat and put the ball in play. The Rays made it look easy last night with their run-scoring ground outs.
Posted 08:39 AM, 10/24/2008
JayW
Okay, I guess we can chalk this one up to experience, but the Phillies have to have a better approach to Shields the next time they face him. Left-handed hitters--if they-re in the lineup at all--should be trying to take Shields the other way.
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