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Report: Phillies offered Ichiro $14 million

Ichiro Suzuki was rejuvenated by a mid-season trade to New York, and he will remain a Yankee with an agreement forthcoming, believed to be for one year. But, according to a report by ESPN.com's Buster Olney, Ichiro may turn down more money and a longer guarantee from the Phillies.

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Report: Phillies offered Ichiro $14 million

POSTED: Thursday, December 13, 2012, 12:15 PM

Which outfielder is the best fit for the Phillies?
Michael Bourn
Raul Ibanez
Cody Ross
Nick Swisher
Someone else

Ichiro Suzuki was rejuvenated by a mid-season trade to New York, and he will remain a Yankee with an agreement forthcoming, believed to be for one year. But, according to a report by ESPN.com's Buster Olney, Ichiro may turn down more money and a longer guarantee from the Phillies.

Olney reported the Phillies offered Ichiro a two-year, $14 million contract. The New York Times also reported strong Phillies interest. Charlie Manuel has long been an admirer of Ichiro. He would have probably batted leadoff in the Phillies lineup and played right field.

The offer is surprising for a few reasons, most notably, Ichiro is not the prototypical corner outfielder the Phillies require. He's 39 and posted the lowest on-base percentage of his career (.307) in 2012. He has a career slugging percentage of .419. (Although, in a small sample size, he slugged .454 with the Yankees in 240 plate appearances.) He led all of baseball in hits for five straight seasons from 2006-10.

Pat Gillick, special assistant to Ruben Amaro Jr., has a long-standing relationship with Ichiro and his agent, Tony Attansio, from his Seattle days.

A lineup with Ichiro would have theoretically resembled this:

1. Ichiro 9
2. Michael Young 5
3. Chase Utley 4
4. Ryan Howard 3
5. Carlos Ruiz 2
6. Jimmy Rollins 6
7. Domonic Brown/Darin Ruf 7
8. Ben Revere 8

The reported offer tells us four things:

1. The Phillies are turned off by the demands of the top corner outfielders on the market, Josh Hamilton, Nick Swisher and Cody Ross. This has long been the sentiment of rival executives, who had predicted a splash from Ruben Amaro Jr., only for silence to persist. The Phillies are wary of any commitment longer than three years to a player over 30, and in some cases, that is too long. Hamilton is seeking upward of five years. Swisher could net at least four years. And Ross is reportedly looking for three years.

2. The power must come from Utley and Howard. The Phillies are attempting to augment the middle of their lineup with hitter who put the ball in play. Young and Revere are not high on-base guys. Neither is Ichiro (in recent years). But Young and Ichiro are career .300 hitters and Revere reached .294 as a 24-year-old centerfielder. While there is a veritable lack of power on the corners, they are banking on production from Utley and Howard.

3. Had Ichiro signed, the Phillies would possess approximately $13 million to spend for 2013. With three new acquisitions for the lineup, the remaining funds could have been directed toward pitching upgrades. Amaro has stated he wants a "low-risk, high-reward" fifth starter. He could have aimed higher there and still had money for a veteran setup man.

4. They value the 16th overall pick in June's draft. This is an under-reported element of the winter's happenings. That pick is the highest for the Phillies since 2001. If they sign Hamilton or Swisher, they would forfeit that pick. They would also forfeit the bonus money that is tied to that pick, which drains their overall money pool for signing all drafted players under the new CBA. That pick holds great value considering all of the minor-league talent Amaro has dealt in the last three years.

Whatever the case, Amaro has stressed his need to be "creative" this winter. The reported Ichiro offer certainly falls in that category, for better or worse.


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Comments  (122)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:41 AM, 12/14/2012
    He gets on base too much and take too many pitches. Chollie's a busy man and can't spend all night hanging around the ballpark while guys extend innings, cause high pitch counts, trips to the mound and pitching changes.
    jtj06
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:21 PM, 12/13/2012
    Opps! ...who cares how much they offered anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It make NO difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waste of print and my reading time!
    MooseBreathMints
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:23 PM, 12/13/2012
    Nice work, Texas. Angels outfield of Hamilton, Trout, Trumbo, with backups Bourjos and Wells, and you are no longer relevant in AL West. We can dream that maybe 25 yr old Trumbo (lf, rf, 3b, 1b)is now expendable but Angels would want pitching in return and we have nothing to offer thanks to trades for Young and Revere. Looks like we roll with what we have and deal with it. Very sad. On paper, we are not constructed to compete in NL East.
    rockinginthefreeworld
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:30 PM, 12/13/2012
    Once you realize the Phillies do not want to forfeit their relatively high #1 pick...and I agree with them wholeheartedly...you can put everything else they do or don't do this winter into proper context.
    dasher
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:36 PM, 12/13/2012
    Or...this story is a leak intended for the Hamilton camp to come closer to the Phillies offer.
    Cazptain Philadelphia
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:17 PM, 12/13/2012
    I'm not sure how that makes sense. To me, if you are willing to pay Ichiro $14 million for two years at his age and skills, you should be willing to go 7 years $350 million for a good player like Hamilton. But we're talking about Ruben Amaro Jr. so you are probably right.
    jtj06
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:42 PM, 12/13/2012
    Real glad this did not happen and now Hamilton gets 125 for 5 years from the Angels. Crazy market, Unless dollars come down look for something in a trade with the Angels.
    tony bell
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:47 PM, 12/13/2012
    "Creative?'' Is that a synonym for STUPID. Good thing Gillick got into the HOF before he dreamed this up. Rube, last offseason you had a chance for Willingham, Cuddyer, Kubel and Reddick and signed Wigginton and Nix. 'Nuf said.
    butchcat
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:50 PM, 12/13/2012
    Better hope Babe Ruf can hit 35 home runs this year. This off season moves have been terrible.
    Pap
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:50 PM, 12/13/2012
    That would be a waste of $14 million. Save your money now because we will be in rebuilding mode come July. Zero chance this team makes the playoffs.
    gtnestro
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:57 PM, 12/13/2012
    So how are Utley and Howard doing in the off season?
    pedge
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:10 PM, 12/13/2012
    I heard they are preparing their fielding stools in Clearwater and stocking up on manssieres so Howard can be active and comfortable. He dropped his lead bat on his foot, so has been limited to cheeseburgers and daytime TV this winter, like last.
    jtj06
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:23 PM, 12/13/2012
    I keep saying it, but they need to move the fences back and play small ball.
    retzlaff
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:03 PM, 12/13/2012
    They're counting on Utley? How is he going to play more than 80 games, hit over .260, get over 12 HRs? Have his chronic knee problems disappeared? What about his career extending major hip surgery he had 4-5 years ago?
    jtj06
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:59 PM, 12/13/2012
    Why sign Ichiro? This is a third place team with or without him so why waste the money? This offseason was bust, but they didn't help themselves with their deadline deals last summer.
    gtnestro


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