Posted: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 10:19 PM | 10 comments |
 
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The Phillies appear to have targeted Placido Polanco as their top choice to replace Pedro Feliz at third base.

The team’s official website had the first of multiple reports tonight that the Phils had been aggressive in pursuing the Detroit second baseman and former Phillie to play third. General manager Ruben Amaro did not immediately respond to a request for comment, and a source indicated to the Inquirer that a deal did not appear imminent. But the Phils’ interest in Polanco has been clear throughout the offseason, and word that talks have grown serious made sense in light of Amaro’s comments on Tuesday. 
 
The GM said that, with utilityman Juan Castro and backup catcher Brian Schneider signed (Castro still must pass his physical tomorrow to finalize his deal), he was ready to focus on signing a third baseman. 
 
He also said that Type A free agents not offered salary arbitration by their teams would become more attractive to him, because they would not require the Phils to sacrifice a first-round draft pick to the player’s former team. The Tigers did not offer Polanco arbitration before Tuesday’s deadline to do so.
 
 
Polanco would make the Phils a better team than they were with Feliz, whose $5 million option they declined--though the upgrade would not be massive.  Let’s compare the two:
 
--Both players are 34 (Feliz will be 35 in April). 
--Both hit for below average power for a corner infielder (Polanco had 10 home runs and a .396 slugging percentage last season; Feliz hit 12 homers, with a .386 slugging).
--Polanco gets on base far more than Feliz, with a .348 career on-base percentage, versus Feliz’s woeful .293. 
--Both are expectional defenders, though they are difficult to compare because they have played different positions in recent years. Polanco won a Gold Glove award last month, and led all second baseman in Ultimate Zone rating, an advanced fielding metric. Feliz is known as a terrific third baseman, but the advanced stats have shown a recent decline.
--I wasn’t there, but players who were tell me that Polanco was very popular in the clubhouse during his first tenure with the Phils. Feliz was certainly not unpopular, is very close friends with Carlos Ruiz and an all-around funny guy. But he did irritate Charlie Manuel on a number of occasions for an, um, less-than-attentive style of play (my favorite quote of the year came the day after Feliz was doubled off in Tampa because he forgot how many outs there were in the inning. Asked if he would speak to Feliz about it, Manuel said, "I can stand up in a meeting and scream and holler. I can call you a dumb ass. But what good is that going to do if you don't know the situation in the game and how many outs?")
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:29 PM, 12/02/2009
    Expectional article, Andy, nice job.
    fizzbin
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:42 AM, 12/03/2009
    Thanks for not mentioning the stupid "hard to strike out" stat being trotted out. What a pointless skill. Striking out correlates with power/patience. Not k'ing a lot is a pretty useless skill. Gosh I hope they sign Adrian Beltre.
    Either/Or
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:13 AM, 12/03/2009
    Vote no on Polanco. Beltre is younger a superb defensive 3rd baseman and last time he was in the national league he tore it up. He is a guy with something to prove and could play there for years to come and with no 3rd baseman in the system sounds like a plan to me.
    Bob Crogan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:50 AM, 12/03/2009
    Either/Or - Your stupid.. Not Striking out is a huge thing if your not going to hit a lot of homeruns(i.e. Ryan Howard). If Polanco is signed, he would bat 2nd. With his better on base percentage, he would get on base more for Utley and Howard to knock him in. the point for Polanco is that he would work the counts, which is very different from Feliz, who often swung at the first pitch..
    gallen024
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:40 PM, 12/03/2009
    @gallen you're vs your, look into it. Starting a line of argument with an ad hominem, not a great way to do things. Polancos OBP is lower than Victorino's each of the last 2 seasons, and's he's slower, and he hits for less power, and he's 35, and he's changing positions. Great signing though, cause uhh he doesn't strike out a lot. You know which players on this team strike out a lot? Your 3 best offensive players: Utley Howard and Werth. i'm really looking forward to 2011 with a 40 year old Ibanez 38 year old Polanco, and about 20 mill in dead salary. ARGH.
    Either/Or
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:57 PM, 12/03/2009
    My guess is that the Phillies looked at the market, decided that the higher-end options--Beltre and Figgins--were too expensive and would prevent them from pursuing a high-end reliever and resigning Lee. If that's the case, I think it's a good move. Polanco's bat fits better into the Phils' lineup than Beltre's (Beltre's bat, after his one ridiculous season, has not been impressive at all--a .260 avg guy who strikes out a billion times), and I like having a guy hitting in the 7 spot who can still hit for average. I see lots of people talking about moving Shane or Rollins down, but I can't see Cholly splitting up the speed at the top of the lineup. Anyway, there's some risk in the signing--Polanco might be garbage in 3 years--but I think this is a guy who can play to 38 or 39. He has not been injured all that often, and his stuff hasn't shown too much in the way of decline (people point out that his average was lower last year, but it was mostly due to a slow start). I'm optimistic about this, and I'll be thrilled if the $4M/year they saved by signing Polanco is used productively elsewhere.
    Mike P
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:50 PM, 12/03/2009
    Travis Mattair, Age-20, 3B-2012
    Romus
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:23 PM, 12/03/2009
    You can't compare Polanco to Utley, Howard and Werth. You are comparing him to Feliz. It'a a NET positive addition to the lineup. I'm tired of Feliz striking out, popping up, or GIDP. Removing K's from the lineup, and having more people on base will only make the HR from 3, 4, 5, 6 all the more potent.
    willyf
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:05 PM, 12/03/2009
    If Polanco has an average year for him it will be an upgrade to an average year for Pedro. Same is true for Castro over Bruntless, same is true for Schneider over Bako. And all this with not touching the bankroll too much. If Hamels, Rollins, and Lidge have their average years (not their subpar 2009 effort)also next year The Phils could win 100 games with the current group even with a mixed bag of middle relief. Still it would be great to add another type guy for good measure and it seems they could aford it and the high attending fans deserve it.
    bamaphillyfan


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