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Monday, December 8, 2008
Mark DeRosa, a former quarterback at Penn, could be headed to the Phillies in a three-team trade.

Here is what The Inquirer's Jim Salisbury is reporting from the winter meetings in Las Vegas:

The Phillies are working on a complex trade that could fill two needs: insurance at second base for Chase Utley, who had hip surgery last month, and a righthanded bat in left field.

That player is Mark DeRosa.

Salisbury reports that in a proposed multi-team trade, DeRosa would go from the Chicago Cubs to the Phillies. The Phillies would send the Cubs a prospect or two, which in turn could be sent to the San Diego Padres in a package for pitcher Jake Peavy. Lefthanded pitcher J.A. Happ is one of the prospects the Phils could part with. There were rumblings that the proposed deal could include a fourth team, most likely the Baltimore Orioles.

DeRosa hit .285 with 21 homers and 87 RBIs in 149 games for the Cubs last season. He played six positions during the season, including 95 games at second base and 27 in leftfield. DeRosa is signed for 2009 at a reasonable $5.5 million.

In addition to DeRosa, the Phils still had free-agent leftfielder Raul Ibanez in their sights. The Phils need to add a leftfielder to take the place of free agent Pat Burrell, who is unlikely to be re-signed. In a perfect world, the Phils would add a righthanded-hitting outfielder because the middle of their order already features two lefthanded bats in Utley and Ryan Howard. However, a person with knowledge of the Phillies' thinking said the team is open to adding a lefthanded hitter such as Ibanez.

Ibanez hit .305 (60 for 197) against lefthanded pitching while playing for the Seattle Mariners last season. Overall, he hit .293 with 23 homers and 110 RBIs while playing in all 162 games. Ibanez, 36, has spent 10 of his 13 major-league seasons with the Mariners, and is a favorite of former Mariners and Phillies general manager Pat Gillick. Gillick stepped down as Phillies GM after the World Series but remains a consultant with the team and is present at these winter meetings.

New Phils GM Ruben Amaro Jr. would not talk about specific targets, but Ibanez's agent, Seth Levinson, confirmed that the Phils are involved with his client. Ibanez, who has averaged 112 RBIs over the last three seasons, is likely to be seeking a multiyear deal worth $10 million to $12 million per season. The Cubs and New York Mets are interested in Ibanez, but the Mets have moved him to the back burner as they pursue, as one team official said, "Pitching, pitching, pitching." Ibanez lives in Miami and would like to play on the East Coast, which could help the Phillies' chances if they don’t get DeRosa.

If the Phils don't get DeRosa or Ibanez, they may go after free agent Juan Rivera, a righthanded hitter who played for the Angels in 2008, and use him as part of a platoon with Greg Dobbs. The Minnesota Twins could trade outfielder Delmon Young and the Phillies have checked him out, as they would any available player. Phils officials say Young is far down their list of possibilities.

Posted by Todd Zolecki @ 11:31 PM  Permalink | 69 comments
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Posted 11:46 PM, 12/08/2008
timm2
pass, no thanks.
Posted 01:15 AM, 12/09/2008
Norma
DeRosa? Can play 2nd to fill in for Chase? AND left field? Decent BA, HR's and RBI #'s. Sounds almost too good to be true. Hate to lose Happ, though. I saw him battleing it out for our 5th starter position.
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Posted 01:42 AM, 12/09/2008
werththewait
I think Derosa would be a nice pick up. He's a lot like Jayson Werth (just a touch better avg: .279/69HR/352 rbi compared to Werth's .263/57hr/222 rbi) but a little more versatile. He's also a hustle guy, if they give up Happ I'd be fine with it. I think KK is going to bounce back and if they can give Carrasco a good look it may pay dividends. Good move if Amaro doesn't mortgage too much.
Posted 05:33 AM, 12/09/2008
ronin32
I'd like to know if he's signed past this year?
Posted 06:50 AM, 12/09/2008
lseltzer
(from Cot's Baseball Contracts - http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/chicago-cubs_112114177768677294.html) DeRosa is signed through '09. 5.5m for this coming year plus some incentives: $50,000 for Silver Slugger, $75,000 each for Gold Glove or All Star selection, $0.15M for LCS MVP, $0.2M for MVP, $0.25M for WS MVP I've always thought that my fellow Penn alum DeRosa would eventually land with the Phillies. If they think he can play 2nd and left then he's a good solution. BTW, DeRosa is actually older than Burrell by not quite 2 years
Posted 06:54 AM, 12/09/2008
jeff gross
Before we make this trade, we need to think about certain things 1) Is DeRosa signed for 2010? DO we want him long term or only for a season?2) is Mayburry projected as the starting LF in 2010? If so, we are in effect renting DeRosa for a year for 5.5 million + J.A. Happ. THis is not a good move!! 3) How does 1 player play LF and 2B at the same time? Since the answer is- he doesn't, DeRosa either isn't the answer to LF or isn't the answer to 2B until Chase comes back. 4) Is DOnald projected to be a real option for 3B in future? If not, perhaps now is the time to trade him instead of Happ. Where is Happ projected to pitch long term (i.e. where is he projected to be in three years)(top of rotation, 2-3 in rotation, 4-5 in rotation?) What are we truly giving away? Once all these answers are given we can decide if getting this talented versitile player is in our interests or not. As of now, I am looking at Donald as my 2B until Chase returns, Happ as my #4-5 starter, and a hole in LF. If Moyer isn't back, I am still short a SP. I'd think carefully before getting rid of a SP unless Mayburry isn't projected to be in LF in 2010, and then I have to ask, why did we get him at all?
Posted 07:30 AM, 12/09/2008
tkdfrank
If the Padres are so high on Happ why aren't we just trading with them directly for Peavey? I'd prefer him in our rotation as opposed to DeRosa in a platoon.
Posted 08:42 AM, 12/09/2008
phillygreg
why on earth would you help the cubs get peavy? so basically we get a decent OF who can play a lot of positions, and the cubs get one of the best SP in baseball. whyyyyy? just sign juan rivera, give up 0 prospects, and let peavy stay put on a last place team! even ed wade wouldnt do something this dumb!
Posted 08:43 AM, 12/09/2008
Gary Varsho
Peavey didn't list the Phillies as a team that he could be traded to. So its unlikely a trade for him could be made. I actually don't mind the deal. He's signed for 5.5 million - that's a bargain to have 2b insurance and a left field platoon guy who can almost replace Burrell's production.
Posted 08:49 AM, 12/09/2008
EL Zorro
DeRosa is a nice piece to have in your ballclub, but I won't trade a future starter for him; is not a good deal and then helping the Cubs obtain Peavy. No way. Forget about Ibañez, we don't need another left-handed batter, who happens to be 36 year old and wants a multi-year contract at 10 or 12 millions a year. He hits .300 against lefties last year, but that doesn’t mean he is going to be successful next year. We also lose a first round pick. I rather have Juan Rivera, who is younger, cheaper and we won't lose a pick. Now, Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the Phillies and Cardinals are discussing a trade involving one of their outfielders: Schumaker, Ankiel or Ludwick. The problem is they want a reliever. I will go Ryan Madson for Ryan Ludwick, and then try to sign Juan Cruz as my set up guy. Schumaker is a nice player too, a .300 plus hitter with good speed, but he happens to hit from the left side. He could lead off and Jimmy could be moved to the middle of the order. It would not be that bad. Madson was good last year, but he has his up and downs and Scott Boras is his agent. He will be a free agent after next year, I believe, and Boras is already overpricing him. We might lose him anyway.
Posted 08:58 AM, 12/09/2008
jeff gross
Don't concern yourself about what the Cubs get. The one thing they won't get is a World Series Ring. Not this year, not next year, not for a hundred years. You make the moves based on what is good for your team. Whether this move is good or not--see my comment above
Posted 09:13 AM, 12/09/2008
Todd Zolecki
davegas, I've asked Amaro several times if Burrell is as good as gone. Here's the deal. Why would the Phillies call up Burrell, tell him, "You're not coming back under any circumstances?" That makes absolutely no sense. They don't want him back -- their actions are fairly clear -- but if something happens where they find he is their best option, then they will turn to him. You never close your options in baseball. Never, never, never. I'm not sure why you need Amaro to publicly announce that they aren't bringing back Burrell under any circumstances, but again, that's not the smart thing to do. Because if they can't trade for DeRosa or sign Ibanez or Rivera, then guess what? Burrell might be who they want to pursue.
Posted 09:19 AM, 12/09/2008
phillygreg
Any truth to rumors about the cards? I'd love one of their OF players since it would improve our D, team speed, and still give us some power if we added ankiel.
Posted 09:20 AM, 12/09/2008
jeff gross
Todd, you are so right. A great answer to Dave. What I want to know, is why would they consider DeRosa if he is a FA after this year? Do they expect maybery to be ready by 2010? Otherwise, they seem to be willing to give up a great SP prospect for a one year rental. While I'd like to see a Righty in LF, not at the price of Happ if only for one year. Have we talked to DeRosa about a contract extension before making this deal (have him sign it with the Cubs before we make teh trade)
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