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Friday, December 5, 2008
The Phillies say negotiations with lefthander Jamie Moyer are moving slowly.

The Phillies leave Sunday for the winter meetings in Las Vegas, which I hear is a great place to work.

Ruben Amaro Jr. made it clear yesterday that his priority is pitching: finding a starting pitcher and improving the bullpen. Of course, the question at the moment is Jamie Moyer. What the heck is the hold up? Amaro would not say. Moyer's agent, Jim Bronner, also declined to say why negotiations have taken so long.

"I think Jamie definitely has interest in coming back to Philadelphia," Bronner said. "He also has some interest in some other places. The Phillies certainly made it easier for other clubs to want him by not offering him arbitration."

If the Phillies had offered Moyer arbitration before Monday's midnight deadline, other teams would have had to forfeit a top draft pick to sign him. Now that teams do not have to compensate the Phillies, Moyer would seem to be more attractive.

"We have talked to other teams," Bronner said.

The Phillies said they declined to offer Moyer arbitration because they felt they would lose payroll flexibility had he accepted. This leads me to believe the hold up might not be years in a potential contract, but money. Moyer made $7 million last year, when he won 16 games. I'm guessing that if he had accepted arbitration he would have compared himself to other 16-game winners (or pitchers who made much more than him, but didn't win 16 games). Perhaps Bronner is seeking a significant raise and the Phillies are reluctant because of Moyer's age. Regardless, I still think the Phillies can re-sign Moyer. I just think both sides are playing hardball.

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A source indicated yesterday that the Phillies haven't made an official offer to Derek Lowe, but parameters likely have been discussed.

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The Phillies will be looking for outfield help, too. Asked about who could protect Ryan Howard in the lineup should Pat Burrell not return, Amaro said earlier this week that Jayson Werth could be that guy.

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Chase Utley has done well since surgery on his right hip Nov. 24.

"We're real pleased with how things have progressed with Chase in the short time that he has started his rehab," Amaro said.

Amaro said Pedro Feliz, who had surgery on his lower back Nov. 20, "should be fine."

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Phillies prospect Jason Donald was named to the Arizona Fall League's top-prospect team. Donald was one of four hitters in the league to bat over .400. He finished second in the league in batting (.407) and doubles (12), and third in slugging percentage (.747).

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Need a holiday gift idea for that hardcore Phillies fan? A&E Home Video and Major League Baseball Productions releases "Philadelphia Phillies 2008 World Series Collector's Edition" on Dec. 9. It is an eight-DVD set, which includes every pitch from the five World Series games, every pitch from Games 4 and 5 of the NLCS and one DVD of bonus material. It also includes a feature where fans choose from four different audio tracks. That means fans can watch the FOX broadcast, while listening to Harry Kalas, Larry Andersen, Chris Wheeler and Scott Franzke.

Posted by Todd Zolecki @ 9:22 AM  Permalink | 51 comments
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Posted 10:09 AM, 12/05/2008
Jeffrey
Jayson Werth is great and all but he's not a proven 30 HR, 100 RBI type of player. On the other hand, he's a lot better in the field and a great baserunner. Now, about that chin beard...
Posted 10:31 AM, 12/05/2008
Dull
I am with Ruben on the Moyer situation. Remember that Moyer was 0-2 with an 8.49 ERA in three post season starts. He was only effective when the ump gave him a couple of inches on the outside corner of the strike zone like Culbreth was giving him in Game 3 of the Series. Against better hitting teams and umps Moyer pitched like the 46 year old he is.
Posted 10:43 AM, 12/05/2008
vinceabs
Bobby Abreu is definitely available. He is a .300 BA .400 OBP and 30 HR potential at CBP and wouldn't be that much worse than Burrel in LF.
Posted 10:44 AM, 12/05/2008
celtic_13
I think Werth is going to be in the 5 spot this year no matter who comes in to play the other corner outfield position. 24 homeruns and 67 RBI's is pretty good considering he was platooning for almost half the season and had two impossibly slow baserunners hitting before him. He's an awesome athlete who is only going to get better, though he must limit his strikeouts.
Posted 10:48 AM, 12/05/2008
davemarsh
abreu has a fear of fences and plays like he has no heart.
Posted 10:50 AM, 12/05/2008
celtic_13
Vince, Abreu was a tremendously productive palyer in Philly, but he's a clubhouse cancer. The Phils identity changed for the better the second he was traded to NYY, and they put together a pretty impressive run that year that fell short, and two division titles after that. Once the leadership mantle was passed to Rollins and Utley, it became obvious that Abreu's presence was holding the team back.
Posted 10:52 AM, 12/05/2008
EL Zorro
I would sign Lowe and pass on injury-prone Burnett. As for Moyer, as much as I appreciate what he did last year, I would not miss him that much. Face it, he is 46 years old and last year he was good but he feasted on young teams like the Florida Marlins and Washington Nationals. Both teams are going to be a year older and you can assume they will improve, especially Washington. Even if they don’t improve, Moyer might not pitch against them as much. Also, he needs a favorable strike zone to succeed. If he doesn’t get it he is in trouble, especially against a veteran team. Remember, he lost two of the three games the Phillies lost in the playoffs, even though he pitched well against the Rays (3 runs in 6.3 innings). Then again, Tampa Bay is a young team. He struggled a little bit against a more experienced Milwaukee team. (2 runs in 4 innings but was hit hard) and did not last two innings against the Dodgers (6 runs in 1.3 innings). As for Werth, I agree with Amaro, he could be the 5th hitter we're looking for.
Posted 11:10 AM, 12/05/2008
yahmpy
Bobby Abreu. Two words I don't ever want to hear affiliated with the Phillies ever again.
Posted 11:20 AM, 12/05/2008
Sully
Bobby Abreu: the "For who, for what?" of Phillies history. Trading him for a bag of peanuts was the greatest trade in the organization, ever. Ironically, he CAME IN as one of the greatest trades ever. Kevin Stocker, anyone? Anyway, his time is done. Let us never speak his name again.
Posted 11:30 AM, 12/05/2008
Gary Varsho
sully - "For who, for what?" is a great analogy for Abreu. There are other possibilites, such as Raul Ibanez if they are wiling to go with a lefty.
Posted 12:26 PM, 12/05/2008
Norma
The Phils need to look at BA's and RBI numbers. Not just potential HR numbers. It's not ALL about the long ball! As for Werth....When he batted 2nd, he didn't have huge opportunities to up his RBI's, cause it was usually only J.Roll on base. He would have a better chance in the 5 hole. With Chase being healthy, there's a better possibility of having a couple more guys on base. Assuming, of course, that the guys learn to play "small ball"!
Posted 12:58 PM, 12/05/2008
vinceabs
I understand the hesitation regarding Abreu, however, times have changed. As a veteran and tenured player, Abreu was expected to be a leader, which clearly he was/is not. That expectation also blocked some of the younger players from taking on a leadership role. If we bring Abreu back, there are no more expectations. Remember, he is one of the best pure hitters in the game and an upgarde defensively from Burrel.
Posted 01:41 PM, 12/05/2008
KarenA
I read on the NY Times website that Boras (Lowe's agent) is seeking 5 yrs/$90 million for Lowe's contract. Do you think the Phils would go for that? Also Yankees are talking to Texieria (along with the Angels and Red Sox) and CC (along with the Angels and Giants)Things might be finally getting interesting.
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Posted 02:30 PM, 12/05/2008
EL Zorro
vinceabs, I was going to write something similar about Abreu. Some players are not leaders you can build around. He is one of those nice pieces to build a team, nevertheless. He was also a relatively young player who was learning the language and was asked to be a leader in a tough city. I won’t mind see him batting second after Jimmy and in front of Utley. I’ll sign him at the right price in a minute now that you are not losing picks. And he is one of those lefthanded hitters you can play everyday because he can hit lefties. He can also protect Howard at the 5 hole.
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