One consolation: A high draft pick
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One consolation: A high draft pick
Matt Gelb, Inquirer Staff Writer
An 81-81 season produced many things for these Phillies, among them, a higher draft pick than in recent history. They will select 16th in Major League Baseball's June draft. It is their highest selection since 2001 when righty Gavin Floyd was tabbed with the fourth overall pick.
The last 10 years have yielded two first-round picks that have made it to Philadelphia -- Greg Golson (2004) and Joe Savery (2007). Adrian Cardenas (2006) and Kyle Drabek (2006) have both appeared elsewhere in the majors.
Part of that, of course, is the constant winning that has placed the Phillies near the bottom of the draft order. After the 1997 J.D. Drew detente, the Phillies drafted six straight first-rounders -- Pat Burrell, Brett Myers, Chase Utley, Floyd and Cole Hamels -- with significant results. They were all selected 17th or higher.
The Phillies have drafted 27 players 16th or higher. Eight never played a game in the majors; the last being Chad McConnell, an outfielder from Creighton University selected 13th overall in 1992.
That makes this particular pick an important one for assistant general manager Marti Wolever and his amateur scouting staff.
A list of the 12 picks since Floyd was drafted at No. 4:
| Year | Rnd | OvPck | Pos | WAR | G | AB | HR | G | W | L | Type | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 | 1 | 40 | Shane Watson (minors) | RHP | HS | |||||||||||
| 2012 | 1 | 54 | Mitch Gueller (minors) | RHP | HS | |||||||||||
| 2011 | 1s | 39 | *Larry Greene (minors) | OF | HS | |||||||||||
| 2010 | 1 | 27 | Jesse Biddle (minors) | LHP | HS | |||||||||||
| 2008 | 1 | 24 | Anthony Hewitt (minors) | SS | HS | |||||||||||
| 2008 | 1s | 34 | *Zach Collier (minors) | OF | HS | |||||||||||
| 2007 | 1 | 19 | Joe Savery (minors) | LHP | -0.3 | 23 | 2 | 0 | .000 | .000 | 23 | 1 | 2 | 4.88 | 1.27 | 4Yr |
| 2007 | 1s | 37 | *Travis d'Arnaud (minors) | C | HS | |||||||||||
| 2006 | 1 | 18 | *Kyle Drabek (minors) | RHP | -0.4 | 34 | 2 | 0 | .000 | .000 | 34 | 8 | 15 | 5.34 | 1.67 | HS |
| 2006 | 1s | 37 | *Adrian Cardenas (minors) | SS | -0.3 | 45 | 60 | 0 | .183 | .552 | HS | |||||
| 2004 | 1 | 21 | Greg Golson (minors) | OF | -0.6 | 40 | 41 | 0 | .195 | .458 | HS | |||||
| 2002 | 1 | 17 | Cole Hamels (minors) | LHP | 28.2 | 219 | 450 | 1 | .169 | .404 | 212 | 91 | 60 | 3.34 | 1.14 | HS |
| 2001 | 1 | 4 | Gavin Floyd (minors) | RHP | 13.2 | 194 | 54 | 0 | .056 | .145 | 194 | 70 | 66 | 4.46 | 1.33 | HS |
D'Arnaud was a primary piece in the Roy Halladay trade. Collier, Hewitt, Biddle, Greene, Watson and Gueller all remain in the Phillies system. Biddle is currently the lone legitimate prospect of the bunch.
The Phillies finished 2012 tied with Arizona, but the Diamondbacks will pick 15th because the tiebreaker is awarded to the team with the worse record in 2011. Pittsburgh has two picks in the top 14 as consolation for not signing its first-round selection last summer.
The top 10 picks are protected from compensation. But, beginning this winter, a free agent is subject to compensation only if his former team offers a one-year qualifying offer of approximately $13.3 million. That should limit the amount of free agents that will cost draft picks to sign.
The old designations of Type A and B free agents no longer exist.
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i think kyle drabek has more tommy john surgeries than he does wins.
wasnt aware of the change in compensation, but it sure needed to be updated..some of the garbage players that you had to forfeit draft picks for because of their designation- it was ridiculous.
was just looking at a-rod's contract..just amazing..with those 6 million dollar bonuses for milestone homers...milestone bonus for a-rod..millstone bonus for the yanks.— jim715- Never mind Gavin Floyd. I see Cole Hamels was a NËš17 pick, and he's the sort that is always needed!— BEMiller
- What pick do they give up for Papelbon?— scootch
- IIRC only the top 15 picks are protected from being awarded as compensation for signing a type A free agent, so odds are we'll lose this pick.
@scooth: Phils already gave up a draft pick for Papelbon in last year's draft.— Only in Philly... - drhoffman how many World Series have we been with Halladay on the roster? Now how many have we had when Kyle Drabek was with the Phillies organization?— lonewolf 10
- I don't know if you are that dumb or just throw stuff out there to be dumb. And Drabek was where when the Phillies won the Series? Home, watching on TV. — mike l
- Jesse is the best No. 1 pick since Colbert. Always worth the price of admission and then some this season watching him pitch at BrightHouse for the Threshers. Lucky enough to have seen him pitch in three of his starts there this season when he pitched 7 innings shutout innings each time including a "no-no" in one and struck out a combined 33 batters in those games. Can't wait to see Cole and Jesse in the same rotation at CBP sooner than later.— Dull
- The Phillies have actually drafted pretty well. Only 2/3 of first-round picks even make the majors. From 2001 to 2008, 6 of the 9 have made the majors and D'Arnaud is a top prospect at AAA who will easily make the majors soon. Collier and Hewitt have been disappointments but they were drafted out of high school. They are only 22-23 and have improved a little recently. There's still time for them. Nobody expects guys drafted in 2010-2012 to have already made the majors that fast. Biddle looks like a good one, Greene is absolutely a legit prospect, and it's way too soon to pass any judgment on the 2012 draft picks.— JimG
- Some of the stupidest fans in baseball on this board...Kyle Drabek?? HAHAHAHA...greatest move in Philly history trading that loser for Doc— BirdinParadise
- The Phillies pulled the trigger on a deal last night, trading Gavin Floyd and a player to be named later to the White Sox for right-handed pitcher Freddy Garcia. The player to be named later is Gio Gonzalez, who cannot be traded until after the Rule 5 draft today.
Certainly nobody is excited to see Gonzalez go, but the Phillies seem to have done a nice job of capitalizing on the success he had in the Arizona Fall League.
Not Pat Gillick's best deal... 12/07/2006— left coast flyer fan - The new draft pick compensation rules are nuanced attempts at incentives and disincentives and should actually stop teams from just signing players they really do not want. It should make a lot of quality mid-level players available as teams decline to offer them the 13 million and they become available iwth no compensation pick required. The highlights of the new rules
A)The qualifying offer is the same for every player and every team. It is set as an average of the top 125 salaries which should be 13 million and a one year contract only.
2)only the top ten picks are protected
C)The team that loses the free agent does NOT get the other teams draft choice, instead the pick is forfeited and the first round is just made shorter. The compensatory pick is at the end of rd 1 and is now only 1 pick instead of two.
4)Only players on the team for the whole season get a compensatory pick— UncleStosh - Just a comment- In watching the Cards - Giants game, one of the announcers said the Cards are one of the better hitting team because their hitters are taught and told to go the other way more than any other team when the situation calls for it.
What a novel idea !
Could you imagine trying to tell Ryan Howard to do that. Howard would not be alone in that failure. Include most of the team.
May be the answer to the burning question all year - "How come we rarely get runs in when we put men on base to open innings ".— candidly - So what happened to the great Kelly Dugan, Kyrell Hudson, and Larry Green?— carlosbeltran
- Re Pagan: It is painful but necessary to face the facts. If SFG let him walk, it's highly unlikely he would be smart for us b/c, frankly, they are better judges and users of talent than we are, at least right now. They aren't payroll-poor either. & they've seen him up close.
I think he's played better for them than he would for anyone else. If you have trouble w/ that concept, pls see 2010-12 NL results (& adjust for loss of Posey last year). They thought their magic might work on Pence [only possible explanation for getting him] but so far it hasn't. They are only human. [He said optimistically.]— FiloSofer - hi, my friend, there are new style jerseys in our site, if you are interested in them contact us ok?
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