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Tuesday, November 18, 2008
Ryan Howard: Snubbed on one NL MVP ballot.

There were 32 voters for the National League's Most Valuable Player Award.

Ryan Howard received votes from 31 of them.

Let that sink in for a moment. Thirty-one of 32 voters put Howard somewhere on their ballot, which has room for 10 players. But one voter didn't think Howard, who led the majors in home runs (48) and RBIs (146) and led his team to its second consecutive National League East championship (keep in mind these votes come before the postseason), even ranked among the top 10 most valuable players in the National League.

I was curious about that, so I called Rich Campbell from the Fredericksburg (Va.) Free Lance Star, who left Howard off his ballot, to ask why.

Campbell declined comment.

But what could he say?

He forgot?

Regardless of his reason, it's embarrassing not to have Howard somewhere on the ballot because anybody who followed baseball, especially the final month of the season, knew how valuable Howard was for the Phillies. Here is how Campbell's ballot looked: 1) Albert Pujols, 2) David Wright, 3) Lance Berkman, 4) Chase Utley, 5) Hanley Ramirez, 6) Tim Lincecum, 7) Chipper Jones, 8) Matt Holliday, 9) Johan Santana, 10) Manny Ramirez.

Now, it should be noted that Campbell's vote (or lack of vote) wouldn't have changed the result, but the BBWAA, which prides itself on its voting body, suffered another black eye, in my opinion. First, three uninformed voters gave Cincinnati Reds pitcher Edinson Volquez second-place votes for the NL Rookie of the Year Award. That would be OK, except Volquez is not a rookie. And not to have Howard anywhere on your MVP ballot? Terrible.

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Phil Sheridan thinks the BBWAA should no longer vote for postseason awards, based on the embarrassing Howard and Volquez votes ... and a few other things, too. It's an interesting argument. Could the players, coaches and managers do better? They could, but it also would not be perfect. Remember, managers and coaches gave Bobby Abreu a Gold Glove in 2005 and Rafael Palmeiro a Gold Glove in 1999, when he played 135 games as a DH. How could that happen? Because sometimes these Gold Glove votes and Players Choice Awards go like this:

First coach, in a room full of coaches: "Hey, who's having a good year in right field?"
Second coach: "No clue."
Third coach: "I can't think of anybody."
Fourth coach: "Isn't Abreu having a good year?"
First coach: "Sounds good to me. He's my Gold Glover."

That said, the MLBPA voted Cliff Lee and Tim Lincecum as its pitchers of the year, Pujols and Josh Hamilton as its players of the year and Evan Longoria and Geovany Soto as its rookies of the year. That's on mark with the BBWAA, with the AL MVP to be announced later today.

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The Phillies are interviewing coaching candidates this week. Jim Tracy, who had been a candidate, reportedly is close to a job with the Colorado Rockies. Scheduled to interview this week with the Phils are Terry Collins, Rich Donnelly, Tim Bogar and Pete Mackanin.

Sam Perlozzo already has been hired. Perlozzo and the final hire will be assigned to the bench and third-base coaching vacancies.

Posted by Todd Zolecki @ 12:47 AM  Permalink | 40 comments
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Posted 10:33 AM, 11/19/2008
veritas
After reading the explanation from the esteemed writer from Fredericksburg, I can understand why he left Howard off the ballot. He's never actually watched a baseball game; he just memorizes the box scores.
Posted 10:27 AM, 11/19/2008
James TL
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Posted 09:15 AM, 11/19/2008
VaPhilsPhan
I work in Fredericksburg, VA, and I was as surprised as some of you to see that a writer from the small Free-Lance Star got a vote. Apparently, he wasn't used to the pressure afforded him after leaving off one of the top 3 players in the sport, and decided to blog about his decision: http://fredericksburg.com/blogs/view?blogger_id=34&p=1227053479
Posted 09:14 PM, 11/18/2008
NJLouis66
Awesome job Todd Zolecki, by the way, calling this reporter out. David Wright second? He wasn't even the MVP of his own team. Chipper Jones, who sat out about a quarter of the season, 7th? Good players all, but only Pujols and Santana are in Howard's category for 2008.
Posted 08:50 PM, 11/18/2008
NJLouis66
THANK YOU davegas. I have been waiting for someone to point out that Pujols does NOT play on a team full of shmucks. The rationale seems to be that Howard's run-producing numbers are better because of the better team he is on. And the Phils are better. But listen, Pujols finished the season with what, 36HR/116RBI? Howard had that at the end of AUGUST. And then he piled on a monster September. Consider this: STL's team OBP was .350, second in the NL. The Phils' was .332. STL had almost 200 more hits than the Phils and basically the same number of walks. LOTS more baserunners, lots more scoring chances for Pujols & co. And yet Howard had 30 more RBI. Pujols had more singles, doubles and walks. Whoop-dee-do. Howard produced more runs, which produce wins, and carried a team to the playoffs when everything was on the line in September. And then some reporter has the gall to not place him even top 10? This is a joke.
Posted 08:25 PM, 11/18/2008
marty
Yeah, in fact I'll give Gary his due there; I guess I was being too much of a "homie". Though I wasn't thinking so much of consistency throughout the year, but rather of equally key players scattered throughout the lineup and pitching staff. But even there, one could make the same argument at least for the teams he mentioned. I think my point remains, though; Howard gets more "lost" among his teammates than the other top-end candidates did.
Posted 07:19 PM, 11/18/2008
Norma
Just heard that Pedoria won the AL MVP. First 2nd baseman in 50 years. Coulda' been Chase breaking that streak. Darn hip injury!
Posted 07:16 PM, 11/18/2008
Norma
Gary.....Point taken. I guess I was defining *balance* a little differently. Guys picking each other up throughout the season. Thus *balancing* the team.
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Posted 06:46 PM, 11/18/2008
jimmymack
The two designated BBWA Philly voters in '08 were Jim Salisbury (Inky) and Jason Stark of ESPN. Jim voted for Howard, Jason for Pujols.
Posted 05:50 PM, 11/18/2008
EL Zorro
I am almost sure Paul Hagen voted for Pujols, judging by the way he was talking the other day on Daily News Live. He probably put Lidge ahead of Howard in his ballot also. I agree with Varsho's argument about balance. The Phillies were a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde kind of team all season and they happened to put it all together at the end, and Howard had a lot to do with that. It’s amazing that they won with all the inconsistencies in their lineup. They don’t even had a .300 hitter in the starting lineup. I don’t remember any team making the postseason without a .300 hitter. And the one who got closed, Utley, had a bad second half. I agree also with the Cardinals being a more balance team, and that’s why Howard lifting his team to the Division crown merited the MVP.
Posted 05:25 PM, 11/18/2008
bski
DAVEGAS.....I'll go you one further in a devil's advocate sort of way. Not only do I want to know who has the two Philly votes, I want to see their ballots. Here's what I'm getting at. I would expect everyone to show favoritism to their hometown team, including the Philly writers. I would also expect everyone to have biases against one player or another or one team or another, again including the Philly writers. While we are lambasting the Nationals' writers for their ballots, it might be a good idea to see the ballots our guys submitted to see how impartial they are.
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Posted 04:12 PM, 11/18/2008
Gary Varsho
Norma - LA Angels, Boston, Cubs, Cardinals, to name a few. I'm talking balance - up and down the lineup and pitching staff. I know we are bias towards not only the home team, but the team that won the World Bleeping Series - but if you're talking balance for the entire season, across the board, definitely not this team. The bottom of our order was an offensive black hole for most of the season, between Howard and Burrell, combined they equaled one great season and one horrific season. Pitching, even though they stayed healthy and became reliable - when you look at the ups and downs of Myers/Eaton/Kendrick - I don't call it balance.
Posted 03:34 PM, 11/18/2008
Norma
Gary....I like Marty's points. If the Phils weren't the most balanced, who would you pick?
Posted 03:27 PM, 11/18/2008
Gary Varsho
marty - on one hand, its fair to say he didn't carry the Phillies. But, you become less believable when you say the Phillies "were arguably the most balanced team in MLB this year ability-wise." Not even close.
Posted 02:53 PM, 11/18/2008
EL Zorro
What are you drinking Marty?
Posted 02:47 PM, 11/18/2008
marty
While I don't at all agree with Campbell, I think I can see a justification for not voting for Howard, and I think that after I explain it, you may agree it is a legitimate justification (though you will still say Howard at least deserved consideration). If one is voting for someone who is most valuable on that man's team, that most valuable man perhaps should stand out head and shoulders above the rest of the team. In the case of the 2008 Phils, their success was a total team effort. The Phils may not have gotten where they did without Howard; but they would not have gotten there without a whole bunch of players. Do they make it to the postseason without Rollins? Utley? Victorino? Hamels? Myers? Lidge? Werth? Burrell? The 2008 Phils were arguably the most balanced team in MLB this year ability-wise. Howard stood out in the last month or so, and finished with remarkable power numbers. But he wasn't nearly the standout for the Phils as, for instance, Pujols was for the Cards. This isn't the way I would decide on the MVP (at least, not exclusively), but I think it is legitimate rationale for Campbell's decision, despite how we all may denigrate that decision.
Posted 02:45 PM, 11/18/2008
phillywebcast
199 strikeouts doesn't merit an MVP I have to agree with the writers on this. He didn't carry the Phillies, either. This team was a true team effort with a lot of MVP type players. Just hitting 48 HR's doesn't do it for the MVP, maybe for the HR King it does, but not all around player aka MVP.
Posted 02:32 PM, 11/18/2008
Stevis
If you're trying to be objective at all, you could do worse than looking at Baseball Prospectus's advanced stats. By VORP, the 10 players that Campbell selected finished: 1-7-5-8-2-6-3-10-4-23 in the National League. And the 23 was Manny -- give him credit for his Red Sox at-bats and the 23 becomes a 2. The thing about these stats is that they apply to the WHOLE season -- it's hard to argue that we should just ignore the four months when Howard was struggling. All that said, I have to agree with Michael J above -- who cares? I'm sure Ryan would rather have the ring.
Posted 02:26 PM, 11/18/2008
Bryan
Way to call him out (and up) on it, Zo!
Posted 01:46 PM, 11/18/2008
Michael J
Who cares? We won the WORLD SERIES!!! The other awards are meaningless...
Posted 12:52 PM, 11/18/2008
Norma
Totally proves my point about the voting being *subjective*. And I agree with Sheridan. But then who does the voting? I like El Zorro's idea. MVP.....Howard. Player of the Year....Pujols.
Posted 12:36 PM, 11/18/2008
jeff gross
I realize they won't see all the games, but we have to ensure that each voter sees each team more then once. Todd and Dave, as bad as their choices may have been, see each team and each player. Imagine if you didn't see Manny as a Dodger this year, yet had to vote for MVP. Could you caste a vote for him? That's my worry. I also am aware that Chewy isn't totally wrong about vendettas etc.
Posted 12:14 PM, 11/18/2008
EL Zorro
Jeff, they don't have to see all the games. They are going to have an idea who the candidates are by midseason and then take a close look at them and see how they and the team finish. I know is not easy to get a fair system. One start will be to really define the MVP. Obviously there are diferrent opinions about the award. Or just create another for the guys with the best stats for National League and American League Players of the Year and you solve the controversies.
Posted 12:01 PM, 11/18/2008
Chewy59
Yea but Jeff Gross, what about people who will be free agents? You vote for a guy and then sign him? Or you will still find GM's with vendettas against other teams in the division. They will say, if my guy isn't gonna win MVP I sure as hell will make sure it won't be his guy. Or, they fired me so I won't vote for their guy. I just think anyone actively involved like that is prone to misjudgement and letting team or personal rivalries get in the way. Personally, I don't have any suggestions for a better system than letting the writers vote.
Posted 11:19 AM, 11/18/2008
jeff gross
I accept the notion that GMs have a conflict. I would institute the rule that you can't vote for someone on your team. The ex managers etc sounds reasonable, but how do you ensure they see enough games/players to make informed choice? They also have a bias in favor/against certain teams/Players. What we need is a multi layered system whereby Current managers, past managers and players, Writers now and past all get a vote...or of course just give the award to the guy with the best stats during the regular season and call it the Best player of teh year award (BPY)
Posted 11:18 AM, 11/18/2008
PhillyTheKid
Pujols Shmooholes...He's a hitting freak, like Manny, but the Silver Slugger Award should take care of that, NOT the MVP... As for the Phils, Ryan Howard carried us down the stretch, but the pitching STAFF was the key to being WORLD F--king Champions!
Posted 10:53 AM, 11/18/2008
MFPhils
the players should decide...we are the ones who care
Posted 09:56 AM, 11/18/2008
EL Zorro
Tom, for Lidge to save a game, the team has to be in front. Howard had a lot to do with that this season. And Howard is an everyday player. You can't ignore that.
Posted 09:36 AM, 11/18/2008
EL Zorro
Jeff, including GMs in the voting process is not a good idea. Remember, they are the ones who negotiate the contracts, which many of them include performance bonuses. So that will be a conflict of interest. I would rather see a system where ex managers, coaches and ex writers will be included. I think active writers – and manager and coaches for that matter - are too closed to players one way or another. Some my have a problem with a certain player or certain team, as evident by the two Washington beat writers who snubbed Howard. Maybe the bad blood between the Nats and Phillies have something to do with that. How about the New York guys? I also think a lot of today’s writers put too much emphasis in stats like OPS and other stuff, that while it tells you something about the players performances, it doesn’t tell the whole story. I read a while ago that one guy, who writes a book every year about players’ stats like range and stuff like that, rated Rollins as in the middle of the pack in terms of range. Are you kidding me? Name one shortstop with more range? Maybe Reyes and Furcal? Who else? The guy writes that and all Rollins does is win Gold Gloves and one MVP.
Posted 09:04 AM, 11/18/2008
timm2
wow, nothing else to say about it.
Posted 08:56 AM, 11/18/2008
KarenA
Even a "front runner" fan of baseball would know how Howard lit up the score board at the end of the season and should receive a vote or two for MVP. Must be watching all those losing Nats games that put this guy in a "coma".
Posted 08:52 AM, 11/18/2008
tom trochum
The most valuable player is that player who is so valuable that the team could not achieve what it did without him. The team's success would not be anywhere near what it was without him. The difference between the Phillies being a playoff contender and World Series Pretender was not Howard, Rollins, Hamels or Utley. It is Brad Lidge. He was perfect from the opening gun to the last game of the World Series. He is the difference between this year and the last. He made the Philles an eight inning team. He put constant pressure on the other teams to score late or forget it. He gave his team an air of confidence that the game was in the bag. He made the starters know they could air it out and not have to finish the game. Take him out of the equation and where would the 2008 World Champions be. Playing golf on the first week in October 2008. Probably never in real contention for National League wild Card. In other words, no where. That is why Brad Lidge deserved to be the National League MVP. He was most valuable, the biggest difference maker in his teams success, bar none.
Posted 08:50 AM, 11/18/2008
phillylawyer78
How does someone who writes for the Fredericksburg (Va.) Free Lance Star get a vote?? They've got to have a smaller circulation than the Daily Pennsylvanian, Philadelphia Weekly, or the Onion. Do those papers have writers that get votes?
Posted 08:49 AM, 11/18/2008
Steve5877
This guy probably looked at each team and picked the MVP from each team. For the Phils, he gave it to Utley. Given how useless Howard was most of the season, hard to argue, but I'd have gone with Lidge. Chipper gets a vote 'cause the guys a homer. Holliday 'cause he should have won last year?? Oops, just noticed two Mutts. Yeah, he's an idiot.
Posted 08:04 AM, 11/18/2008
Mark1npt
Every writer who classifies as a moron by leaving off an obvious top 10 guy or who demonstrates his ignorance by voting for a player not even eligible, should have their voting privelege revoked. It's that simple.....I wonder if these dufuses wrote in Alfred E. Newman on their Presidential ballots 3 weeks ago?
Posted 07:50 AM, 11/18/2008
bski
Way to call Campbell out, Zo. Throw in Mark Zuckerman from the Washington Times, who put Howard 10th on his ballot, and we've got some serious anti-Howard bias from the Nationals beat writers. It really calls the whole process into question, IMO.
Posted 01:35 AM, 11/18/2008
jeff gross
so if the writers can't do the job, who should be deciding on these awards? Is it too much to ask the managers, and perhaps GM's to each cast a vote for the MVP, Cy Young, ROY etc?
About Andy Martino
Andy Martino is in his first season on the Phillies beat. A former New York City public school teacher and graduate of the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, he previously wrote for the New York Daily News, where he covered baseball and worked with the award-winning investigative sports "I-team."
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