Lidge has elbow soreness

With a one-run lead Tuesday, Charlie Manuel stuck with his setup man, Ryan Madson, for the ninth even though the righthander had already pitched in the eighth.

That's because Phillies closer Brad Lidge wasn't available.

Following the 8-7 victory over Florida, Manuel revealed Lidge has had soreness in his right elbow, the same one that was surgically repaired in the off-season and has forced Lidge to spend two trips on the disabled list in 2010.

Manuel said Lidge will likely not be available until at least Friday. The Phillies are off Thursday.

"I'm always concerned," Manuel said. "It came up two days ago. He pitched and it's a little tender."

Lidge downplayed the injury. He said Phillies team physician Michael Ciccotti looked at the elbow and decided no MRI was necessary.

"I'm not concerned," Lidge said. "I had a little hyperextension (Saturday). There's a little pain. I pitched through it (Monday). I'll definitely be back for sure on Friday."

In Game 2 of Monday's doubleheader, Lidge recorded his 21st save of the season. He allowed a hit but struck out two.

Lidge has a 3.38 ERA this season. Since blowing a save July 31 at Washington, the closer has allowed just one earned run in 16 1/3 innings.

"It is different from what I had before," Lidge said. "But instead of trying to throw through the pain and maybe make it worse, we decided I should take two nights off. It really is minor."