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Ibanez Is Aboard

POSTED: Friday, December 12, 2008, 8:18 AM
Raul Ibanez will be roaming left field for the Phillies through 2011.

Is this deal with Ibanez good for the Phillies?
Yes
No
I have to wait and see

The Phillies have agreed to terms with free agent leftfielder Raul Ibanez.

It will be a three-year, $31.5 million contract.

Ibanez, 36, fills a void that had been in left field since the season ended. It became clear the Phillies did not want free agent leftfielder Pat Burrell back, and Ibanez quickly emerged as one of their top choices. They tried earlier this week to acquire Mark DeRosa from the Chicago Cubs, but once that fell through they stepped up their efforts with Ibanez, who they had been talking to for a while.

Ibanez, 36, hit .293 with 23 home runs and 110 RBIs last season for the Seattle Mariners. He has 338 RBIs over the past three seasons, which ranks 12th in baseball. Interestingly, Ryan Howard ranks first (431) and Chase Utley ranks 20th (309), which means the Phillies have three of the top 20 RBI-men over the past three years in their lineup. (Only three outfielders -- Magglio Ordonez, Carlos Beltran and Matt Holliday -- have more RBIs than Ibanez in that span.) Burrell ranked 32nd in that category with 278 RBIs. Of course, Burrell also hit righthanded, which is important to Phillies manager Charlie Manuel. He strives for balance in his lineup, but it looks like Manuel will have lefthanded hitters in his Nos. 3, 4 and 5 slots.

Ibanez is a career .286 hitter. He hit better against lefthanded pitching (.305) than righthanded pitching (.288) last season, but in his career he is 25 points better against righthanders (.293) than lefthanders (.268). Howard hits 73 points better against righthanders and Utley hits 26 points better against righthanders. Burrell hits 25 points better against lefthanders, but weighing their options the Phillies obviously felt they are better with Ibanez than Burrell.

Because Ibanez is a Type A free agent and because the Mariners offered him salary arbitration, the Phillies will forfeit their first-round draft pick in 2009 to the Mariners.

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Burrell leaves the Phillies in third place on the franchise's all-time list in home runs (251) behind Mike Schmidt (548) and Del Ennis (259). He also ranks seventh in RBIs (827), eighth in extra-base hits (518), fifth in walks (785) and second in strikeouts (1,273).

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Here's another thing to consider when looking at Ibanez's numbers: He played half his games in Safeco Field. According to The Bill James Handbook 2009, Safeco Field had a 92 runs index from 2006-08, which ranked 12th out of 14 ballparks in the American League. Citizens Bank Park had a 104 runs index from 2006-08, which ranked fifth out of 16 ballparks in the National League.

A 100 index means the park is neutral to hitters and pitchers. An index higher than 100 favors hitters and an index less than 100 favors pitchers. Ibanez put up those numbers in a pitcher-friendly ballpark. He could find things a bit better in Philly.

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The Phillies are still looking for pitching.

Contract negotiations with Jamie Moyer have gone very slowly, but Manuel said he thinks Moyer, who has been talking to the Brewers, will be back. If that happens, the first four spots in the Phillies' rotation are secure: Cole Hamels, Brett Myers, Joe Blanton and Moyer. Manuel said he expected J.A. Happ, Kyle Kendrick and Carlos Carrasco to compete for the fifth spot. Manuel didn't mention Adam Eaton, and for good reason: the Phillies are trying to give him away, eating most of his salary in the process.

Sources said yesterday the Phillies are close to a deal for righthanded relief pitcher Chan Ho Park.

The Phillies are expected to sign righthander Blaine Neal to a minor-league contract. Neal, a South Jersey native and Bishop Eustace graduate, has pitched in the majors for Florida, San Diego, Colorado and Boston. Neal and Mike Koplove, a Philadelphia native who agreed to terms to a minor-league contract last month, will get looks in major-league camp this spring.

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Comments  (327)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:08 AM, 12/12/2008
    Solid player. This guy even hit .300 against lefties. Everyone stop complaining. Moyer or Lowe will be signed.
    Matt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:09 AM, 12/12/2008
    Burrell would have produced for three more years. Ibanez is old, left handed, and played well for a bad team. An old player can get bad real fast. Should have gone after Delmon Young. After Amaro signs Moyer, (another bad idea) he is going to try and convince us this team is as good or better than last year.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:10 AM, 12/12/2008
    10 million for 3 years was as good of a price as this team was going to get on a good player to fill in left field. Check his stats, that price is a bargain! This certainly leaves a few dollars to go after another pitcher.
    Gary Varsho
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:11 AM, 12/12/2008
    Why is everybody complaining about replacing Burrell with Ibanez? Ok, so defensively and on the bases, you're looking at almost no upgrade, but the guy rakes. I understand he's left handed and that could be a problem, but like somebody mentioned before, he hits lefties as well as Burrell...and how can CyHamels say last yesr was an aberation? It was the third straight year he hit 20+ HR's and drove in 100+ runs and the 4th time in his career he's done that...and he's a career .286 hitter. He hit .293 last year...and all those number came in Seattle where he's hitting in that graveyard called Safeco (not to mention another 10 games/season hitting in Oakland, another pitcher's park). If nothing else the guy is consistant. Oh, and he doesn't strike out as much. Hey, I was hoping for a RH hitter as much as anybody, but there's nobody available. This is an upgrade folks, regardless of age. Best of luck to Patty B. He'll be missed.
    Billy The Kid
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:12 AM, 12/12/2008
    I wish I had recorded several conversations over the past month. Been telling friends of mine that out of everyone available, Ibanez would be the best fit, not to mention that he would actually *save* the Phils a couple mil a year instead of re-signing Burrell. And, oh yeah - he has more RBIs over the last three years that Manny Ramirez.
    headtrip
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:14 AM, 12/12/2008
    who's gonna bat 5th now?
    allegrabene
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:16 AM, 12/12/2008
    Bad move. The guy will be 36 in June. He has great career stats, but he's a LEFT-HANDED hitter. It doesn't matter that he hits lefties as well as righties. Howard doesn't. Get ready for a lot of ugly at bats for The Big Man this year. Chase can't be thrilled, either.
    patrick125
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:17 AM, 12/12/2008
    We don't gain one when Burrell signs, since he was not offered arbitration. This was s solid pickup. Defending World Champs are supposed to try to defend their title, not rebuild.
    Welcome to Martyland!
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:17 AM, 12/12/2008
    I'm not sure why this deal is any better than just resigning Burrell. Ibanez has a better average, but definitely won't be on-base as often as Burrell, with all the walks that he's always getting.
    andwhysee
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:19 AM, 12/12/2008
    Just here me out gang...The Phillies tried to trade Ryan Howard last year because he eventually wants A-Rod and the phillies won't give that type of money to anyone.....So what if the Phillies trade Howard for someones entire farm system (you get my point) then sign Texeria....You get a swithch hitter and a first baseman!!!! Just food for thought!!!! Happy Holiday! Go Phils
    rabvab
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:19 AM, 12/12/2008
    Why are people getting mad over this signing? This is a good. .286 career hitter. 1 of 5 outfielders to have over 100+ RBI's the past couple years. .305 against lefties last year. Hate to see Burrell go but his mission was complete here.
    Beef69
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:20 AM, 12/12/2008
    Ibanez bats fifth, he is good protection for Howard. If they can find a decent right handed bench player, that would round out the offense and they can focus on the pitching.
    Gary Varsho
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:21 AM, 12/12/2008
    I think this means Werth will be hitting 5th, with Ibanez 6th.
    phillylawyer78
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:23 AM, 12/12/2008
    I'll take consistent Ibanez over a streaky Burrell for that price


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