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Ibanez Is Aboard

The Phillies have agreed to terms with free agent leftfielder Raul Ibanez.

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Ibanez Is Aboard

POSTED: Friday, December 12, 2008, 8:18 AM
Raul Ibanez will be roaming left field for the Phillies through 2011.

Is this deal with Ibanez good for the Phillies?
Yes
No
I have to wait and see

The Phillies have agreed to terms with free agent leftfielder Raul Ibanez.

It will be a three-year, $31.5 million contract.

Ibanez, 36, fills a void that had been in left field since the season ended. It became clear the Phillies did not want free agent leftfielder Pat Burrell back, and Ibanez quickly emerged as one of their top choices. They tried earlier this week to acquire Mark DeRosa from the Chicago Cubs, but once that fell through they stepped up their efforts with Ibanez, who they had been talking to for a while.

Ibanez, 36, hit .293 with 23 home runs and 110 RBIs last season for the Seattle Mariners. He has 338 RBIs over the past three seasons, which ranks 12th in baseball. Interestingly, Ryan Howard ranks first (431) and Chase Utley ranks 20th (309), which means the Phillies have three of the top 20 RBI-men over the past three years in their lineup. (Only three outfielders -- Magglio Ordonez, Carlos Beltran and Matt Holliday -- have more RBIs than Ibanez in that span.) Burrell ranked 32nd in that category with 278 RBIs. Of course, Burrell also hit righthanded, which is important to Phillies manager Charlie Manuel. He strives for balance in his lineup, but it looks like Manuel will have lefthanded hitters in his Nos. 3, 4 and 5 slots.

Ibanez is a career .286 hitter. He hit better against lefthanded pitching (.305) than righthanded pitching (.288) last season, but in his career he is 25 points better against righthanders (.293) than lefthanders (.268). Howard hits 73 points better against righthanders and Utley hits 26 points better against righthanders. Burrell hits 25 points better against lefthanders, but weighing their options the Phillies obviously felt they are better with Ibanez than Burrell.

Because Ibanez is a Type A free agent and because the Mariners offered him salary arbitration, the Phillies will forfeit their first-round draft pick in 2009 to the Mariners.

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Burrell leaves the Phillies in third place on the franchise's all-time list in home runs (251) behind Mike Schmidt (548) and Del Ennis (259). He also ranks seventh in RBIs (827), eighth in extra-base hits (518), fifth in walks (785) and second in strikeouts (1,273).

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Here's another thing to consider when looking at Ibanez's numbers: He played half his games in Safeco Field. According to The Bill James Handbook 2009, Safeco Field had a 92 runs index from 2006-08, which ranked 12th out of 14 ballparks in the American League. Citizens Bank Park had a 104 runs index from 2006-08, which ranked fifth out of 16 ballparks in the National League.

A 100 index means the park is neutral to hitters and pitchers. An index higher than 100 favors hitters and an index less than 100 favors pitchers. Ibanez put up those numbers in a pitcher-friendly ballpark. He could find things a bit better in Philly.

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The Phillies are still looking for pitching.

Contract negotiations with Jamie Moyer have gone very slowly, but Manuel said he thinks Moyer, who has been talking to the Brewers, will be back. If that happens, the first four spots in the Phillies' rotation are secure: Cole Hamels, Brett Myers, Joe Blanton and Moyer. Manuel said he expected J.A. Happ, Kyle Kendrick and Carlos Carrasco to compete for the fifth spot. Manuel didn't mention Adam Eaton, and for good reason: the Phillies are trying to give him away, eating most of his salary in the process.

Sources said yesterday the Phillies are close to a deal for righthanded relief pitcher Chan Ho Park.

The Phillies are expected to sign righthander Blaine Neal to a minor-league contract. Neal, a South Jersey native and Bishop Eustace graduate, has pitched in the majors for Florida, San Diego, Colorado and Boston. Neal and Mike Koplove, a Philadelphia native who agreed to terms to a minor-league contract last month, will get looks in major-league camp this spring.

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Comments  (327)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:46 AM, 12/12/2008
    Looks like a good deal.
    KarenA
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:46 AM, 12/12/2008
    Phils don't get a pick because they didn't offer Burrell arbitration. Gillick knows Ibanez from his Seattle days so you gotta give the reigning World Champs the benefit of the doubt on this. Sad to see Burrell go but that's baseball. I won't miss his slumps!
    ChekUrFax
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:48 AM, 12/12/2008
    We don't gain one when Burrell signs elsewhere, as we didn't offer Burrell arbitration.
    tjc
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:49 AM, 12/12/2008
    Gary, we won't get a pick for Burrell or Moyer because they were not offered arbitration. I agree with CyHamels. Why sign another lefthanded hitter? Unless they move somebody (who?), you are going to have a middle of the order with 3 lefthanded hitters in a row. That will be a killer in the late innings. Amaro did not make Charlie's job any easier.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:50 AM, 12/12/2008
    I think I would rather have Burrell on the team. I really dont care about the money, because it is pointless, but Burrell would have probably been cheaper or the same and he is younger.
    dry ice man
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:50 AM, 12/12/2008
    OK Ruben you got your left fielder, now what are you going to do with the minor leaguers who are working hard and deserve a chance? Another patch with no future.
    wiseoldowl
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:51 AM, 12/12/2008
    Excellent signing. The guy can flat out hit. Defense was never a strong point in left anyway. He's not the kind of player who goes into prolonged slumps. He'll bring some consistency to the offense.
    SJJim
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:53 AM, 12/12/2008
    everything doesn't revolve around the left hand to right hand ratio. These our professional hitters and they will do good regardless. Some of you are acting like it's instant death to have 3 left handers up...but it's really not. If he comes to bat for us, it's going to be a great thing, even if he's batting upside down.
    MFPhils
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:54 AM, 12/12/2008
    Dumb Dumb Dumb... The first stupid move (of many I'm sure) of this regime... Well, at least we had last year...
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:54 AM, 12/12/2008
    I wish Ibanez were two years younger, but taking Burrell to arbitartion would have gotten us nowhere. The Phils needed to get someone and they did, and you can't argue with this guys numbers, especially against superior AL pitching. And to CyHamels - why so angry? The Phils just won the World Series, and didn't give up any pitching to get this guy - and speaking of pitching - you complain that they didn't go out and get any - who? the Mets and the Yankess are busy giving people WAY to much money. Do you think they are reallty goiong to drop 15-20M a year on a righty? I have no problem with the Phils staring rotation as it stands, and they have the best middle relievers and closers in baseball, nuff said.
    CTL
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:55 AM, 12/12/2008
    Some people just love to cry poor and hungry while carrying hams under both arms. Great move! Pat highly over estimated his value!
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:55 AM, 12/12/2008
    You are correct on Burrell and no arbitration, my bad. But it really isn't an issue with the pick. Would you rather we sign a tybe b or worse free agent, just to avoid losing a pick? Then everyone would call them cheap.
    Gary Varsho


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