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Ibanez Is Aboard

POSTED: Friday, December 12, 2008, 8:18 AM
Raul Ibanez will be roaming left field for the Phillies through 2011.

Is this deal with Ibanez good for the Phillies?
Yes
No
I have to wait and see

The Phillies have agreed to terms with free agent leftfielder Raul Ibanez.

It will be a three-year, $31.5 million contract.

Ibanez, 36, fills a void that had been in left field since the season ended. It became clear the Phillies did not want free agent leftfielder Pat Burrell back, and Ibanez quickly emerged as one of their top choices. They tried earlier this week to acquire Mark DeRosa from the Chicago Cubs, but once that fell through they stepped up their efforts with Ibanez, who they had been talking to for a while.

Ibanez, 36, hit .293 with 23 home runs and 110 RBIs last season for the Seattle Mariners. He has 338 RBIs over the past three seasons, which ranks 12th in baseball. Interestingly, Ryan Howard ranks first (431) and Chase Utley ranks 20th (309), which means the Phillies have three of the top 20 RBI-men over the past three years in their lineup. (Only three outfielders -- Magglio Ordonez, Carlos Beltran and Matt Holliday -- have more RBIs than Ibanez in that span.) Burrell ranked 32nd in that category with 278 RBIs. Of course, Burrell also hit righthanded, which is important to Phillies manager Charlie Manuel. He strives for balance in his lineup, but it looks like Manuel will have lefthanded hitters in his Nos. 3, 4 and 5 slots.

Ibanez is a career .286 hitter. He hit better against lefthanded pitching (.305) than righthanded pitching (.288) last season, but in his career he is 25 points better against righthanders (.293) than lefthanders (.268). Howard hits 73 points better against righthanders and Utley hits 26 points better against righthanders. Burrell hits 25 points better against lefthanders, but weighing their options the Phillies obviously felt they are better with Ibanez than Burrell.

Because Ibanez is a Type A free agent and because the Mariners offered him salary arbitration, the Phillies will forfeit their first-round draft pick in 2009 to the Mariners.

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Burrell leaves the Phillies in third place on the franchise's all-time list in home runs (251) behind Mike Schmidt (548) and Del Ennis (259). He also ranks seventh in RBIs (827), eighth in extra-base hits (518), fifth in walks (785) and second in strikeouts (1,273).

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Here's another thing to consider when looking at Ibanez's numbers: He played half his games in Safeco Field. According to The Bill James Handbook 2009, Safeco Field had a 92 runs index from 2006-08, which ranked 12th out of 14 ballparks in the American League. Citizens Bank Park had a 104 runs index from 2006-08, which ranked fifth out of 16 ballparks in the National League.

A 100 index means the park is neutral to hitters and pitchers. An index higher than 100 favors hitters and an index less than 100 favors pitchers. Ibanez put up those numbers in a pitcher-friendly ballpark. He could find things a bit better in Philly.

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The Phillies are still looking for pitching.

Contract negotiations with Jamie Moyer have gone very slowly, but Manuel said he thinks Moyer, who has been talking to the Brewers, will be back. If that happens, the first four spots in the Phillies' rotation are secure: Cole Hamels, Brett Myers, Joe Blanton and Moyer. Manuel said he expected J.A. Happ, Kyle Kendrick and Carlos Carrasco to compete for the fifth spot. Manuel didn't mention Adam Eaton, and for good reason: the Phillies are trying to give him away, eating most of his salary in the process.

Sources said yesterday the Phillies are close to a deal for righthanded relief pitcher Chan Ho Park.

The Phillies are expected to sign righthander Blaine Neal to a minor-league contract. Neal, a South Jersey native and Bishop Eustace graduate, has pitched in the majors for Florida, San Diego, Colorado and Boston. Neal and Mike Koplove, a Philadelphia native who agreed to terms to a minor-league contract last month, will get looks in major-league camp this spring.

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Comments  (327)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:57 AM, 12/12/2008
    Well done Amaro, I am very pleased with this signing. Now we can focus solely on pitching.
    Coff
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:57 AM, 12/12/2008
    Phils didn't offer Burrell arbitration, so they don't get a first rounder for him signing elsewhere
    Repubrebirth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:58 AM, 12/12/2008
    Granted, he is a good hitter, but we needed a righthanded bat. Also, he hit great against lefties last year, but in 2006 he hit .243 and in 2007 .256. So it was a good year allaround for him. The question is, can he repeat does numbers while getting older?
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:58 AM, 12/12/2008
    the best part of this is the commenters above who probably never even heard of this guy...this is a GREAT signing, im not gonna do your homework but look at his numbers, its over 285 and 25 homers and 100 RBI plus every year for hte past 5 or 6 years...so basically, it sa better player than burrell for cheaper....raul ibanez is very very good but gets no play becaues he's played in KC and Seattle.....and forget about needing alefty, this guy is a hitter, who cares what side of the plate he is...the way i see it, you have rollins, vict, werth and feliz who at right, plus whoever catchers, thats 5 rightys if a lefty shows up
    TR
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:58 AM, 12/12/2008
    mmdriban, you consider Thome a blunder?
    FlimFlam
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:58 AM, 12/12/2008
    we don't get a pick for Burrell, as he wasn't offered arbitration.
    DCExpat
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:58 AM, 12/12/2008
    What I don't get is that this team was not willing to go to a third year to sign Burrell, which is what the sticking point was in their negotiation. Yet, they sign this guy to a 3 year deal, one in which he will be 40 in June 2012. I know some people who work for them and Burrell wanted nothing more than 3 years at around 13 mil per. They couldn't cobble together 9 million more dollars over 3 years to keep a guy who knows the team, knows the city, loves it here, WANTS TO PLAY HERE, and will only be 35 at the end of it? Surely they made at least that much in unexpected World Series Revenues and profits. This is not good. It may be good for 2009 but after that, this Ibanez is going to fall apart.
    seaonasdad
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:59 AM, 12/12/2008
    Sad to see Pat go, but it was the right move. I appreciate everything he did to get me a chip
    phillyking22
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:00 AM, 12/12/2008
    This is a great signing for the Phillies. Ibanez is a very good player, who has somehow managed to stay under the radar out in Seattle. At $10M/season he is a bargain. I am glad to know that Gillick will still pull some strings when necessary. Pat Burrell won't be coming back, but Ibanez is a better player anyway.
    GHOSTPHAYCE
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:03 AM, 12/12/2008
    Oops, can he repeat those numbers...
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:03 AM, 12/12/2008
    CyHamels, how was last year an aberration for Ibanez? The last 3 years he's been extremely consistent- about .290, 25 HR, 110 RBI. He's hit between .280 and .304 for the last 8 years. I don't know how you can get much more consistent than that.
    Potus415
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:03 AM, 12/12/2008
    Well said Gary Varsho. This guy is a proven commodity. Even a broad street parade cant keep some of the haters at bay for a while. Give Amaro some slack and see how the signing pans out. Nobody hits home runs in December
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:04 AM, 12/12/2008
    The Phillies greatest weakness in 2008 was driving in runners in scoring position. Burrell struck out a lot with runners in scoring position.
    Metropolitan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:07 AM, 12/12/2008
    "Get ready to hear that excuse when we find ourselves, as usual, behind the Mets at the all-star break and at the trading deadline" How'd that turn out for them? Too bad they don't play half seasons. do you enjoy whining?
    RG


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